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Default Wiccan woman kills man for sacrifice. A religion of peace? - 04-09-2010, 05:07 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...25-504083.html

I've had to deal with these jokers before, and I can tell you they are one sick bunch. This proves what we've been saying for years: Wiccans drink the blood of Christians!

So the next time somebody tells you Wicca is peaceful, send them this news article.
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Default Re: Wiccan woman kills man for sacrifice. A religion of peace? - 04-09-2010, 05:15 PM

Horrible! Horrible! You see that picture of her on the site? Not an ounce of Christian Love in those eyes; only blood lust and a hatred of men.

Not wishing to prejudge the issue, I can see it now: she follows her “sacrificial victim” for miles along a hot trail; the minute he pauses to admire God’s Creation, she attacks him with savage, demented, fury screaming, “Your soul will nourish the Sky god! The Earth goddess will drink your blood!”

This, Ofc. Richards, is the true face of Wicker! You're a brave man to deal with these creatures.





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Default Re: Wiccan woman kills man for sacrifice. A religion of peace? - 04-09-2010, 05:29 PM

You can almost here the moonbats flying out from their caves to squeek out their apologetics for the Wiccans "Oh he was out to rape her" "it was self defense" "our deeply held beliefs" Well no can do moonbats; we Christians have no time for apologetics like we have no time for made up little "ancient" cults. Christians, like Christ, deal with FACTS.

The FACTS are this woman is a demon worshiping harlot who dances around naked while having goat sex. Another FACT is this she harlot stabbed this man. Open and shut case, she butchered this guy in the Wiccan Ceremony of the Year King so ensure fertility of the earth. We can be sure she teased this man into a heightened state of sexual arousal before ripping open his manhood to spill his seed and life blood on the earth to feed demons.

Enough with the fables Wiccans, we TRUE Christians know the TRUTH.



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Default Re: Wiccan woman kills man for sacrifice. A religion of peace? - 04-09-2010, 05:40 PM

Edit! I have found THIS; it is even more vile and iniquitous!
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Police said the two had previously met at an Albuquerque-area casino about a week ago and exchanged phone numbers.

Around 4:00 p.m. Monday, police said Sanford called Leyva and invited him to the Sandia Foothills Open Space east of Tramway Boulevard to celebrate a Wiccan ritual for spring.

Sanford claims to be a witch in the religion of Wicca, according to police.

"This is a very unusual case for the Albuquerque Police Department to have to investigated," APD Chief Ray Schultz said. "We'll continue to investigate this to find out more about Angela's history."

Wicca is considered a modern pagan religion with many followers practicing forms of witchcraft.

Albuquerque police gave this account of what happened as detailed in a criminal complaint:
When Leyva arrived, the two walked from the Copper Avenue trailhead into the open space where they drank some beer and a miniature of Tequila. It was then that Sanford said she had to use the restroom and Leyva asked if he could watch.

While she was using the restroom, Leyva removed a rope belt from her waist and tied her up. He also removed a dagger she had in her back pocket. Sanford said the dagger is used in Wiccan rituals and also told investigators she convinced Leyva to untie her as she wanted both of them to get undressed. When they did, she got on top of Leyva and stabbed him with her dagger. In her version to police, she said she only stabbed him about three times, but investigators reported finding as many as 13 stab wounds to Leyva’s head and torso.

Sanford said she later told witnesses that she was raped and needed them to call police. Witnesses later stated that when they found Sanford she was only wearing her underwear. The investigation by police later proved that the story of rape was false. Sanford is being held on a $500,000 cash or surety bond.

A second man police said had been detained for questioning Monday now is being described by police as a witness.

On Sanford’s MySpace age, her screen name is “Glitch.” She lists her religions as “Wiccan” and calls herself a “Proud Parent.” Many of her blog entries include poems, Bible quotes and passages about spirituality.

“Doing some research into this case, this is a time of Wiccan holiday being the solstice, and we're still in the process of determining whether or not that had anything to do with this particular homicide case occurring,” Schultz said.

Sanford’s neighbors told News 13 she kept to herself, but was always nice.

Her criminal history in New Mexico includes a dismissed DWI and minor traffic violations.
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Godly Sleuthing Brother Bathfire!

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On Sanford’s MySpace age, her screen name is “Glitch.” She lists her religions as “Wiccan” and calls herself a “Proud Parent.” Many of her blog entries include poems, Bible quotes and passages about spirituality.
"Proud Parent"; so she breeds her own babies to sacrifice?

Glitch, like Lilith?

Note: "spirituality" demon worship. We can be sure her Bible quotes were to mock her Christian victims.

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This woman wasn't a wiccan. Human (or animal) sacrifice is considered murder by modern wiccans. We aren't christians!

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I say it is dangerous and unethical to base your life on bible quotes. This effectively makes her a christian, which makes her violence suddenly a lot more fitting to her religion. Bible quotes are known to be destructive to mental and spiritual health.

And of course, you sensationalists turn it into a witch hunt, blaming all wiccans for the wrongdoings of one. Yet at the same time you complain when people say all christians are evil because catholic priests rape little boys, claiming that the acts of the catholics aren't representative for christianity. How hypocritical can you get?


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This woman wasn't a wiccan. Human (or animal) sacrifice is considered murder by modern wiccans.
Ah yes, the cry of the unrepentant hypocrite since time immemorial, "We aren't like that any longer. (Well, not until the next time or when I do it)"!

I've heard fluffy-bunny Christians, weak as water and lukewarm, cry out that the Godly actions of a brave fundamentalist, carrying out God's word, "...has nothing to do with Christianity" and that the perpetrator was "not Christian".

Those, madam, like you, who distance yourself from the actions of a fellow True Wiccan, are simply wrong! Those actions were Wicca pure and simple.
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This woman wasn't a wiccan. Human (or animal) sacrifice is considered murder by modern wiccans. We aren't christians!
You mean she in no True Scotsmen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Human sacrifice has been prohibited by Christianity since the time of Abraham 1700 BC and animal sacrifice was prohibited by Jesus in 30AD.

Since human sacrifice is historical fact from Pagans all this means is this she harlot was following her ancient religion more closely than you do.



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You mean she in no True Scotsmen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Which is the same thing you say about catholics. Hypocrites.

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Those, madam, like you, who distance yourself from the actions of a fellow True Wiccan, are simply wrong! Those actions were Wicca pure and simple.
Bathtub, if this woman is a true Wiccan, then a catholic is a true christian, and raping altarboys is christianity pure and simple. If you protest that, then you are a hypocrite. As I already know you are, feel free to protest it.



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Human sacrifice has been prohibited by Christianity since the time of Abraham 1700 BC and animal sacrifice was prohibited by Jesus in 30AD.

Since human sacrifice is historical fact from Pagans all this means is this she harlot was following her ancient religion more closely than you do.
No, Bobby, you are wrong. I'm not a pagan. I'm a wiccan. Followers of the wiccan religion never before commited human sacrifice. The historical facts you speak about date long before the advent of Wicca, in the 1950's.


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All here are quite clear that Catlix are not Christians and never have been. Even you cannot be surprised at the antics of the minions of Satan.
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Must have misread it.

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All here are quite clear that Catlix are not Christians and never have been. Even you cannot be surprised at the antics of the minions of Satan.
Which goes on to show my point. Thanks.

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No, Bobby, you are wrong. I'm not a pagan. I'm a wiccan. Followers of the wiccan religion never before commited human sacrifice. The historical facts you speak about date long before the advent of Wicca, in the 1950's.
I see; Wicca is an ancient religion that pre-dates Christianity from the 1950s? We have had a continuous stream of Wickers insisting that their religion is the continuation of ancient paganism. So what is it; these other wickers no true Scotsmen? You all gave up lying about the ancient bit?



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This woman wasn't a wiccan. Human (or animal) sacrifice is considered murder by modern wiccans. We aren't christians!
Oh, of course, as soon as one of your ilk do something wrong, they're not a "true wiccan" how typical.

I thought you said you could believe whatever you wanted if you were a wiccan.

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I say it is dangerous and unethical to base your life on bible quotes. This effectively makes her a christian, which makes her violence suddenly a lot more fitting to her religion. Bible quotes are known to be destructive to mental and spiritual health.
The Bible quotes were probably misinterpreted and taken out of context. It was probably all the "fluffy bunny" stuff on there. After all, it seems she believed she could be a Christian and a wiccan at the same time.

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This woman wasn't a wiccan. Human (or animal) sacrifice is considered murder by modern wiccans.
I'm sure she's a real true Wiccan, not a fake "modern" one.
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I see; Wicca is an ancient religion that pre-dates Christianity from the 1950s? We have had a continuous stream of Wickers insisting that their religion is the continuation of ancient paganism. So what is it; these other wickers no true Scotsmen? You all gave up lying about the ancient bit?
Wicca is a modern religion. But the practices and rituals of Wicca are ancient, and the Mother Goddess, whom we worship, always has been worshipped by the peoples of the world, under various names. So, wicca is a continuation of ancient pagan religions, but it is not the same, and it is not a continuation of all pagan religions.

After all, the word "pagan" practically means "follower of a non-Abrahamic religion." We've got quite a lot of those, and we can impossibly claim to follow all of them. And in any case, the killer included christian morality in her ideas, so she wouldn't be considered a wiccan even if wicca was the same as paganism.

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Oh, of course, as soon as one of your ilk do something wrong, they're not a "true wiccan" how typical.
I never claimed to be a true wiccan, did I? There is no such thing as a false wiccan, so there can impossibly be something like a true one. If you call yourself a wiccan, you are one (I humbly retract my earlier statement about the woman not being a wiccan. Emotions got the better of me, and I disregarded the wiccan virtues of compassion and humility). People who have the desire to be wiccan (in general) just desire to worship Mother Goddess. There is no fixed set of rules that applies for all wiccans (of course, on coven-level, there can be).

The fact is, you cannot blame all wiccans for the wrongdoings of one, just like you cannot blame all christians for the wrongdoings of one catholic priest. If you do one, but protest against the other, you're a hypocrite.

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I thought you said you could believe whatever you wanted if you were a wiccan.
You are very right. I apologize again for my rash comments.

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The Bible quotes were probably misinterpreted and taken out of context. It was probably all the "fluffy bunny" stuff on there.
Yes, because those are the texts that inspire people to kill others.

I personally think she was inspired by Jephtah. Or by Abraham, expecting to hear a voice from the sky restraining her hand at the last moment.

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People can be, as far as I care. They just shouldn't expect too much sympathy from me.

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Speaks the expert on Neopaganistic Religions, himself a former worshipper of a misogynistic pedophile, who then decided it was way better to worship a misogynistic zombie.


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Speaks the expert on Neopaganistic Religions, himself a former worshipper of a misogynistic pedophile, who then decided it was way better to worship a misogynistic zombie.
What an idiot, first of all Moslems do not worship Muhammad, they worship the moon god Allah. Jesus is not a zombie, zombies count as zombies only when they have no conscious. I have refuted all your claims witch. You're a woman anyway with low intelligence, go back to your kitchen!
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I agree, but she should cook for male Wiccans. If she poisoned the food to sacrifice them, that's a good thing. She will hasten their way to hell, and she will gain more sins to be burning in a worse hell as an entertainment for us in heaven.


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Wicca is a modern religion. But the practices and rituals of Wicca are ancient, and the Mother Goddess, whom we worship, always has been worshipped by the peoples of the world, under various names. So, wicca is a continuation of ancient pagan religions, but it is not the same, and it is not a continuation of all pagan religions.

After all, the word "pagan" practically means "follower of a non-Abrahamic religion." We've got quite a lot of those, and we can impossibly claim to follow all of them. And in any case, the killer included christian morality in her ideas, so she wouldn't be considered a wiccan even if wicca was the same as paganism.

I never claimed to be a true wiccan, did I? There is no such thing as a false wiccan, so there can impossibly be something like a true one. If you call yourself a wiccan, you are one (I humbly retract my earlier statement about the woman not being a wiccan. Emotions got the better of me, and I disregarded the wiccan virtues of compassion and humility). People who have the desire to be wiccan (in general) just desire to worship Mother Goddess. There is no fixed set of rules that applies for all wiccans (of course, on coven-level, there can be).
There is very little that is ancient about wicca or paganism. Both religious traditions (and I use that term very loosely) are based on stories that were written down by the people who conquered them, such as Julius Caesar. Take the example of druidism. All the real druids were wiped out by the Romans, who saw them as threats to Roman paganism and political power - yet people call themselves druids today. So modern 'druidism' has no direct links with the past at all.

Worship trees, rocks, the moon, your own perverted sexual lusts, which is pretty much the same thing - If you don't worship Jesus you are really followers of the devil. But don't pretend that your syncretic beliefs predate Christianity - because they don't.

Simply calling yourself a wiccan doesn't make you one, in the same way that calling yourself a 'christian' doesn't make you one. Wicca, as false as it may be, does have its rules and belief systems. Then you contradict yourself by adding the rubbish about virtues of compassion and humility. The wiccans I have met to date are proud and arrogant feminazis/women enablers, who are only compassionate about their friends, their family and whatever stupid hippy cause they choose to embrace this year.


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There is very little that is ancient about wicca or paganism. Both religious traditions (and I use that term very loosely) are based on stories that were written down by the people who conquered them, such as Julius Caesar. Take the example of druidism. All the real druids were wiped out by the Romans, who saw them as threats to Roman paganism and political power - yet people call themselves druids today. So modern 'druidism' has no direct links with the past at all.
Complete nonsense. Our rituals and practices survived the centuries through oral tradition. And that someone else wrote things down, does mean that it is incorrect? How is that supposed to make sense?

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Worship trees, rocks, the moon, your own perverted sexual lusts, which is pretty much the same thing - If you don't worship Jesus you are really followers of the devil. But don't pretend that your syncretic beliefs predate Christianity - because they don't.
Now you just repeat your previous point. I have told that our lore was passed on through the ages orally. And don't try to denigrate that, first check in what year your "holy scripture" first appeared (for example, scientists think that the "Mosaic Law" actually first appeared 400 years after Moses supposedly lived, while parts of it did not appear until another 400 years after that). Again, many of the practices of wicca date from ancient times, and were transmitted orally, just like your religion.

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What madness is this? Since when do confused christians like you make the rules for this? As far as I'm aware (or care), you don't even have to follow the Wiccan Rede to be wiccan (though that would be confusing for outsiders, that's certainly true). The difference with christianity is, again, that wicca is open to different ideas.

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Then you contradict yourself by adding the rubbish about virtues of compassion and humility. The wiccans I have met to date are proud and arrogant feminazis/women enablers, who are only compassionate about their friends, their family and whatever stupid hippy cause they choose to embrace this year.
I don't believe you, and that's not because I believe all wiccans are nice people (in fact, this very thread is about the fact that some are not). I don't believe you because there is a much more likely explanation for your impression of these ladies: they actually were independant, freethinking women who did not allow any male person to lecture them, and this damaged your already weak masculinity so much, that you felt attacked by their mere presence.


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