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Angry My kids refuse to call me master - 12-14-2011, 10:51 AM

I have a sudden problem with my kids: they refuse to call me master. I know that disobedience should be taken care of swiftly, so any help is appreciated.

Spanking on buttocks doesn't help, so maybe I need to discipline them in other ways. I consider boxing the ears, closed fist in back and belly, hot-saucing and forcing them to sleep in a tent in my garden, as Swiss nights are cold this time of the year. Do you think that will work, or do you other ideas?
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Smile Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-14-2011, 11:11 AM

What do they call you then, if not 'master'?

It's a shame too - you're a great father and your child must be either very spiteful or very stubborn to not obey you.
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-14-2011, 11:59 AM

You will find a lot of inspired advice here: http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/spanking.html

The wisdom of Proverbs 23:13-14 is undeniable.

23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

If you want it to be effective, you must beat the critter within an inch of his life. Always remember that tears and pain is simply weakness leaving the body, so the harder you go at it the sooner the child will behave and become a pillar of our Christian society.
I make sure to beat my children regularly even if they don't misbehave, just to be sure.

edit to add: "In our community we have parental beating cycles. So if you do not have the time to give your children a thorough beating then the neighbors will step in to make sure that God's love is always available to the youngons.
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-14-2011, 12:07 PM

My kids call me Dad. They just know that that means "master".



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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-14-2011, 12:22 PM

Try having them call you "Sir." It also helps if you only refer to them in the third person, "He seems to have forgotten to read all of 2Kings!" This creates the distance between you as head of the house and them as, basically, unsaved parasites.





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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-14-2011, 02:35 PM

You could also consider Deuteronomy 21:18-21 if the problem persists. As a matter of principle a son should do as his father tells him. He is your property like your wife and your dog.

its not so much a question of what he calls you as it is a matter of him calling you what you tell him to call you. If that is 'master' or 'sir' his automated response should be nothing but that.

We live in a time where nego music and culture is on the rise. The children are under constant bombardment from media, internets and peer pressure. Children are all the same. little balls of clay that can be molded to purpose and if one child does something, all the children does it. This is why it is so important to be the anchor in their life. A well guarded pen in which they can thrive as believers, preferably while isolated as much from the rest of society as possible.

These small bursts of rebellion is where it starts. One does, then another, then a third and then you have some real problems. Spare the rod, spoil the child as the saying goes.

Don't be soft on the issue of authority, your children's mortal soul is at stake here. It is better they leave earth under cleansing punishment than as rebellious sinners.

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Spanking on buttocks doesn't help, so maybe I need to discipline them in other ways. I consider boxing the ears, closed fist in back and belly, hot-saucing and forcing them to sleep in a tent in my garden, as Swiss nights are cold this time of the year. Do you think that will work, or do you other ideas?
Hit them on the head with a Bible until they do as you say. Then hit them a few times more. And it isn't punishment if they don't bleed.

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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-14-2011, 05:20 PM

Thanks for your answers. I hot-saused all my kids and boxed their ears until they revealed who initiated the rebellion. A bruised face is the proper sign of disobedience. I locked the demagogue into a cold earth cellar and the rest into my basement. In addition, I gave them all a firm smack with the KJV Bible.

I will give them a chance later tonight, but if they still don't obey, I'll wash out their mouth with soap and smack them more with the Bible.

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My son Zebida made the mistake of calling me Father once,

The rod was well used that night and he will never forget this scripure,

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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-14-2011, 07:08 PM

Im sure other posters have mentioned that a rod should be used, not your fists so that was your first mistake.
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Im sure other posters have mentioned that a rod should be used, not your fists so that was your first mistake.
In denmark its considered bad to hit your kids, even useing a rod

However i found a good solution this works perfectly on the kids

Ofcourse i had a friend modified it, so i had a remote control, after 1,5 week they called me master, i was in doubt if it would work, but it did perfectly
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In denmark its considered bad to hit your kids, even useing a rod

However i found a good solution this works perfectly on the kids

Ofcourse i had a friend modified it, so i had a remote control, after 1,5 week they called me master, i was in doubt if it would work, but it did perfectly
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However i found a good solution this works perfectly on the kids

Ofcourse i had a friend modified it, so i had a remote control, after 1,5 week they called me master, i was in doubt if it would work, but it did perfectly
This is ingenious. How did you keep the government hags at bay? I still think it is murky waters bordering on 'invention in religion'. Perhaps an electrified baton?

Joshua thats kind of cruel, I think. But if it gets the job done and they are obedient. I guess I am just the old fashioned 'rod-the-children' Christian.
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-15-2011, 05:25 PM

First I must ask, is this a new problem or have they never called you Master? Also I must ask does your wife call you Master? Not only is it imperative that your wife refer to you AA Master, but it is also imperative, because she needs to lead by example.Obviously stern beatings are in order here, however you should also consider withholding all meals until their obedience returns, even if this means starvation, if their stubborn behavior is that intertwined with Satans tactics to challenge your reign in your household, then they deserve to starve to death to get them closer to Satan if that is what they desire. There is one side effect of withholding meals, and that is the more meals they miss, the more unhealthy & skinny & frail they become. Obviously the more frail they become, the easily their vines break when you strike them, saving you any unnecessary pain from having to hit them harder to break a bone. There is another fringe benefit to broken bones resulting from a punishment, because they take quite some time to heal, the miscreant had more time to reflect in their wring doings & become closer to Christ, & ultimately leading them down the right path of how to address the Master of their domicile.The other important factor here is although your kids are deserving of a stern beating, your wife should receive the same if not slightly more intensity in her beating whether she is leading by example or not. She is the root of the problem, because of many, many reasons. She is their mother and she should have done a better job raising them to respect th Master of her household, also they ate her offspring & when children do not behave properly, it is the sole blame of the woman. I hope for their eternal salvation, that they are able to see the fallible actions on their behalf & are smart enough to ask you & Jesus for forgiveness. After all he died for them, he didn't just gave a few broken bones to worry about, he sacrificed everyrhing!
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Leviticus 5: And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron’s sons, shall bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar that is by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
Please refer to the correct bible and verse my friend, That quote is:

Leviticus 1:5
And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar that is by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-15-2011, 10:47 PM

Sorry brother, I thought I put the 1:5 on there, my6 mistake, thanks for pointing that out to me.
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I have a sudden problem with my kids: they refuse to call me master. I know that disobedience should be taken care of swiftly, so any help is appreciated.

Spanking on buttocks doesn't help, so maybe I need to discipline them in other ways. I consider boxing the ears, closed fist in back and belly, hot-saucing and forcing them to sleep in a tent in my garden, as Swiss nights are cold this time of the year. Do you think that will work, or do you other ideas?
Maybe you should make them call you by a different title? Such as ruler, sovereign, captain, commander, monarch or liege.
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Maybe you should make them call you by a different title? Such as ruler, sovereign, captain, commander, monarch or liege.
This sounds more that you make up things to get accepted?

Have in mind, even that that Master is not a title, but a sign of respect !!

Regarding Ruler:
the Bible clearly say to fight against theese
Ephesians 6:12

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


Sovereignty is God's absolute and exclusive right to exercise authority in the universe, therefore you cant be called sovereign,

1 Chronicles 29:11-12

11 Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.

12 Both riches and honour come of thee, and thou reignest over all; and in thine hand is power and might; and in thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all
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Captain is a military title, and wouldent fit in a civilian home

And the same goes for Comander

To become a Monarch you need a kingdom, however there is only one kingdom, and this is kind of taken:

Luke 1:33

And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.


And why would he liked to be called a "Frensh city" ?
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Default Re: My kids refuse to call me master - 12-18-2011, 12:29 PM

Praise Jesus, I have finally made my kids to start calling me Master again. It required lots of discipline thought. I hit my kids with a rod on buttocks, back and soles, and I slapped their face and ears. I explained to them that disobeying kids are sinners in the eyes of God, and will be left behind to suffer Tribulation after the Rapture. The demagogue had to sleep outside. My wife always act a good example, and call me Master. As a real woman, she hit the kids when I was at work.

The discipline resulted in clearly visible bruises, reminding them the consequence of rebellion.
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