[Unfalsifiable]

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Answer the question. Do you think shaving is a sin?

Do you think gay sex is a sin?

Yes or no; not anything else. Just, yes or no.

If Jesus negated the laws that taught the people how to lve written in Leviticus: No

If Jesus did not negate the laws which taught the people how to live written in Leviticus: Yes

[Nobar King]

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You guys really take the fun out of this.

[Brother V]

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If Jesus negated the laws that taught the people how to lve written in Leviticus: No

If Jesus did not negate the laws which taught the people how to live written in Leviticus: Yes

DO YOU THINK SHAVING IS A SIN?

DO YOU THINK GAY SEX IS A SIN?

[Unfalsifiable]

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DO YOU THINK SHAVING IS A SIN?

DO YOU THINK GAY SEX IS A SIN?

The bible is my answer. And I have told you the two ways we can interpret it. As far as my opinion goes I have nothing more to say until we discuss what I have said the Bible might say and which one is right.

[Nobar King]

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So, Unfalsafiable, you appear clean shaven, I will take that as an assumption that you don't consider shaving a sin. I guess you think gay buttsex is ok, too.

[Brother V]

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The bible is my answer. And I have told you the two ways we can interpret it. As far as my opinion goes I have nothing more to say until we discuss what I have said the Bible might say and which one is right.

You are an idiot.

All you have to say is yes or no.

Here's how I would answer it.

1. shaving; not a sin

2. gay sex; sin.

Not based on any biblical justification or anything at all. That's how I feel.

How would you answer these questions (oh wait; you can't answer a simple yes or no question so there's no way you'd be able to come up with an answer to these; but try anyway)

Is speeding a sin?
Is kissing a girl who isn't your girlfriend a sin?
Is smoking marijuana in amsterdam (where it isn't illegal) a sin?
Is drinking a beer in the U.S. and being under 21 a sin?
Is bombing an abortion clinic a sin?
Is lieing a sin?
Is telling a bum that you don't have any change (when you do) a sin?
Is NOT giving to charity a sin?

After you answer those, I'll let you know why I asked those questions.

V

[Unfalsifiable]

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So, Unfalsafiable, you appear clean shaven, I will take that as an assumption that you don't consider shaving a sin. I guess you think gay buttsex is ok, too.

Yeah I have shaved my beard, but not have not had buttsex, whatever that is.

Brother V, those questions are born from the secular laws, apart from the lying one and the adultery one, if that is what the question was suggesting (because the Bible's law can clearly be interjected over the top of them). If you asked me what the secular law said about being a homo and shaving I could answer your question, both are not illegal. But we are talking about what the BIBLE says here.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

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I was saying these laws are all written in the same book (lev), should they be treated the same?

This is a most excellent question, and the answer shows the subtlety of God and reveals much about the way his plan for us unfolds over time.

Ask yourself this: Why did God put some of his laws in Leviticus 18 and others in Leviticus 19? Here's the answer, which also answers your question. Compare the final verses of Leviticus 18 with those of Leviticus 19:

For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God. Levitcus 18:29-30

Therefore shall ye observe all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:37

Things mentioned in Leviticus 18, like homosexuality, bestiality, and my favorite, sister-sister nakedness, are abominations, which are eternally banned. Even Jesus could not change them.

Acts that God prohibited in Leviticus 19 are not abominations, so therefore Jesus could change those prohibitions. For example, Leviticus 19:3 requires us to obey our parents. Yet, in Matthew 19:29, Jesus says:

...every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

New Testament, new rule. Of course, just because a particular sin is not an abomination, that does not mean that you can ignore the law prohibiting it. Only Jesus had the power to repeal these misdemeanors. So don't go around prostituting your daughters without clearing it with the Lord, first.

[Unfalsifiable]

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Leviticus 11:10



And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:


How come this abomination is apparently overturned by the new testament then?

[VictoryOS]

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The bible is my answer. And I have told you the two ways we can interpret it. As far as my opinion goes I have nothing more to say until we discuss what I have said the Bible might say and which one is right.

I don't see the words "yes" or "no" anywhere in that post. Why do you have such a problem with simple instructions?

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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So to shave is still to mar the corners of your beard. You shouldn't be doing it.

Mar is defined as "To make defective; to do injury to, esp. by cutting off or defacing a part; to impair; to disfigure; to deface."

Shaving off the whole beard entirely would not be considered marring the corners of it.

Besides, I don't know what your chin is shaped like, but mine is round. I imagine my whiskers would have to grow out quite a bit before there were any corners I had to worry about.

[Unfalsifiable]

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Mar is defined as "To make defective; to do injury to, esp. by cutting off or defacing a part; to impair; to disfigure; to deface."

Shaving off the whole beard entirely would not be considered marring the corners of it.

Besides, I don't know what your chin is shaped like, but mine is round. I imagine my whiskers would have to grow out quite a bit before there were any corners I had to worry about.

Even if this is the case, I was happy to agree with Mr Smith and had moved on from this discussion - what is more worrying now is how can some abominable sins be scrapped and some be kept, if being abominable is what has them kept?

[Brother V]

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Yeah I have shaved my beard, but not have not had buttsex, whatever that is.

Brother V, those questions are born from the secular laws, apart from the lying one and the adultery one, if that is what the question was suggesting (because the Bible's law can clearly be interjected over the top of them). If you asked me what the secular law said about being a homo and shaving I could answer your question, both are not illegal. But we are talking about what the BIBLE says here.

The questions were trying to get you to answer how YOU feel about a certain situation.

let's look at them.

Is speeding a sin?
if there is a speed limit and you exceed it, it is a sin. Because in 1 Peter 2:13 we are told to follow man's laws.

Is kissing a girl who isn't your girlfriend a sin?

Kissing a girl who isn't your girlfriend may or may not be a sin. We are talking about kissing, not intercourse. You are neither married nor engaged to this person. You aren't committing adultery, you aren't committing fornication. You are just kissing. Here is where it would be a sin; if you think you shouldn't do it, but then do, that's a sin.

Is smoking marijuana in amsterdam (where it isn't illegal) a sin?

Smoking marijuana in the U.S. is illegal, therefore a 1 peter 2:13 sin. However it's legal in amsterdam; just as legal as smoking a cigarette in the U.S. The question comes, how do you FEEL about doing it. Do you think that it's slightly wrong? Is there any twinge in your brain that says that you are getting away with something. If that's there, it's a sin. If it's not, then it's not. (If you were brought up in amsterdam your whole life you wouldn't think smoking pot was a bad thing at all)


Is drinking a beer in the U.S. and being under 21 a sin?

Many people think this is an unjust law. Regardless it falls under the 1 Peter 2:13 rule.

Is bombing an abortion clinic a sin?

Destruction of others people property is a sin. Murder is a sin. Some people think that abortions are worse than killing abortion doctors. Doing wrong is doing wrong. It's a sin.


Is lieing a sin?

The answer is sometimes. If you tell your girlfriend that she looks better in the one shirt than the other (because she didn't really want your opinion, but wanted you to justify her thoughts) even though she looked better in the purple shirt, that's not a sin.

lieing in court is a violation of the "bear false witness" commandment. lieing to your girlfriend about the dress (the little white lie) isn't. Lieing to your girlfriend about the girl you kissed in question 2, that's a sin.

Is telling a bum that you don't have any change (when you do) a sin?

Is lieing to a bum, and not giving money to the needy a sin? Deuteronomy 15:7 says you are supposed to give to the needy. So yeah, that's a sin.

Is NOT giving to charity a sin?

You've got a job, you make money, do you have to search for a charity to give it to? Do you wish you'd give money to charity?

James 4:7 says Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

You know that giving to charity is good, but you don't do it; therefore you are sinning.

See how easy it is to answer YES or NO to a question. When you were asked, you didn't even have to give reasons, just say YES or NO.

Because you can't answer simple questions; this is why you aren't a True Christian(tm).

YIC
V

[Juliette]

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Even if this is the case, I was happy to agree with Mr Smith and had moved on from this discussion - what is more worrying now is how can some abominable sins be scrapped and some be kept, if being abominable is what has them kept?

No Son.

You insisted on having the 'beard thing' and 'gay sex' being sort of equal sins based on the bible.
Pastor Billy-Reuben proved you wrong and now you're running.

Be a man and answer him.

[Unfalsifiable]

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We are now studying the theory that abominable sins are which that are not over written. Brother V, or 5? I answered your questions with a sweeping statement that I feel was satisfactory, as predicted, the questions are trivial now.

We are waiting for Mr Smith to reply.

Even if I concede the beard thing, unless Smith can defend himself sufficiently, all the other things like touching pigs etc. comes back into play.