The True Christian™ Guide to Self-Amputation

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

It's what most of the people have done with my posts here. They either take a partial quote out of context to form an argument around it, take whole parts of them and twist them, or just ignore those on which they have nothing to say.

Now Brian, am I everyone else? Don't be silly, it makes you look foolish. I have twisted nothing.

You're being an utter and complete hypocrite ever since your first post.

Please, do let me know where that has happened. And please, the unrepentant child example is not being hypocritical. Hypocritical would be say, complaining about a persons spelling (where there were no errors, interesting) all the while, making errors yourself.

I have made no errors whatsoever, and I have justified every single one of my claims and statements. Something none of you did, except Wide-Open, who was the only one I could have a decent discussion with. It's you who can't justify YOUR claims, and its you who answered none of my questions and statemtns directly, always talking around the bush, avoiding to answer. And THAT is the tactic of someone who lost the discussion

See above and prior posts. Every statement has been backed up. Brian, there is written proof of everything and you are damning yourself by the second. Soon, you will not be able to save any respect and be a total laughing stock.

Moral values can be found in the Bible, but they do not originate from there. Moral values come from reason, and moral philosophy. Just like THe Golden Rule can be found there, but it doesn't stem from the bible. And next time, be a bit more specific, because there are a dozen versions of the Bible.

I have never seen written proof that morals were cataloged prior to the Bible, though I am sure in some form or another they were.
Just so you know, we use only the KJV1611 Bible.

I said your definition of Christianity, not God himself.

We do not have a 'Version of Christianty". We do have the Words of God in the Bible. There is no mention of 'Version'

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

You THINK its the word of God. You have no proof for it whatsoever.

It's a common argument and I addressed in my signature: I do have the proof. It's just impossible to convey to someone who doesn't surrender to God.

Do you at least accept that it is wrong for a Christian to pick only the parts of the Bible that he finds convenient... or substantiates his opinions? If so, then congrats: we have something in common. You may think 100% of Christianity is false, we think 99% is false. Quite some overlap.

With us, you can point to any part of the Bible you find horrific and we will never say "nah, skip that". Try this with most "normal" Christians and they'll tell you to skip and twist everything so that it confirms to contemporary standards.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

Oh but it is. Its your definition and version of Christianity. Saying its the only true word of God is arrogant. It's like saying the other 99%(don't blame this on me, your friend there said that your church makes up about 1% of general Christianity) of Christianity is wrong and is going to hell, just like all followers of other religions.

Brain, how can it be wrong to follow every one of God's Words? When you drive your car, do you think it is fine to ignore red lights or travel at 100mph through a town? You are happy to obey man-made laws but reject God's...

All I can say is "Why?"

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

Oh and do you mind answering a question? I scroll over that little red box under the number of my posts, and I see how you say that I'm probably going to hell, etc, etc. Why do you have a trademark sign next to the word ''Salvation''. Did you copyright salvation to your church?

Salvation™ is through Faith Alone. Only Landover follows the Bible to the exact letter just as God Commands.

If we follow correctly, how can there not be Salvation™? God has given us His Word, His Promise.

No other church does this, no other person knows as much or believes as hard as Landover about the Nature and Demands of God. Can you see? Learn to drive with us and we guarantee you will get a license.

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

(don't blame this on me, your friend there said that your church makes up about 1% of general Christianity)

A minor correction: we see eachother as Brothers, not just friends. A friend is someone who could later become a Brother. Note that we also often address unbelievers as friends.

Also, the 99% figure should be reasonably accurate. I believe some have put it at 98%, but I've never seen anything mentioned below 95%. It should be a cause for concern that most people who live and swear by the Bible don't actually read it.....

[James Hutchins]

Well, apparently Brian finally realized the errors of his ways and has slinked off into the night. Had he only fessed up, he'd of been the better man for it.

[Brian Ashmore]

Nah, I didn't realize any errors. There are none, for that matter.

I came here in order to get some questions answered and confront you about your beliefs and ways and for you to justify them, and maybe make it clear to at least one of you just how absurd they are. But I never got any. All you did was talk around the bush, avoiding answers, telling me what version of the bible you read(I never once asked for this piece of information, yet its present in every second post), and telling me I'm damned and going to Hell. And I'll tell you now, if you people are going to Heaven, I'd choose Hell anytime. Eternal suffering down there is much better than being graced with your company till the end of time up there.

I won't get what I came here for from you, because you can't provide any answers or justifications, so I decided to do the reasonable thing and just walk away. I have a life outside this forum, ya know, so I can't be around 24/7 to argue and provide you with something to do with your day.

I'll just be saying this so you people don't do the thing you always do: keep saying the same things over and over again and declaring yourselves winners after the opposing party walks away from the pointlessness that is wasting time on you.

Cheers

[James Dewitt]

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

Nah, I didn't realize any errors. There are none, for that matter.

I came here in order to get some questions answered and confront you about your beliefs and ways and for you to justify them, and maybe make it clear to at least one of you just how absurd they are. But I never got any. All you did was talk around the bush, avoiding answers, telling me what version of the bible you read(I never once asked for this piece of information, yet its present in every second post), and telling me I'm damned and going to Hell. And I'll tell you now, if you people are going to Heaven, I'd choose Hell anytime. Eternal suffering down there is much better than being graced with your company till the end of time up there.

I won't get what I came here for from you, because you can't provide any answers or justifications, so I decided to do the reasonable thing and just walk away. I have a life outside this forum, ya know, so I can't be around 24/7 to argue and provide you with something to do with your day.

I'll just be saying this so you people don't do the thing you always do: keep saying the same things over and over again and declaring yourselves winners after the opposing party walks away from the pointlessness that is wasting time on you.

Cheers

I can not speak for all my Brothers and Sisters, but I am happy as can be that I am going to Heaven and you are not( by your choice) Have a hap hap happy time roasting in Hell.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

Nah, I didn't realize any errors. There are none, for that matter.

I came here in order to get some questions answered and confront you about your beliefs and ways and for you to justify them, and maybe make it clear to at least one of you just how absurd they are. But I never got any. All you did was talk around the bush, avoiding answers, telling me what version of the bible you read(I never once asked for this piece of information, yet its present in every second post), and telling me I'm damned and going to Hell. And I'll tell you now, if you people are going to Heaven, I'd choose Hell anytime. Eternal suffering down there is much better than being graced with your company till the end of time up there.

I won't get what I came here for from you, because you can't provide any answers or justifications, so I decided to do the reasonable thing and just walk away. I have a life outside this forum, ya know, so I can't be around 24/7 to argue and provide you with something to do with your day.

I'll just be saying this so you people don't do the thing you always do: keep saying the same things over and over again and declaring yourselves winners after the opposing party walks away from the pointlessness that is wasting time on you.

Cheers

Well Brian, I am sorry to hear you are so sad in life. You know, had you let Jesus into your life and followe the KJV1611 Bible, you might not of beenin such a pickle. With luck and time, when Project Habakkuk is completed, you may realize the errors of you ways.
Now, what is your new question?

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

I came here in order to get some questions answered...

Okay, no problem answering honest questions, right?

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

and confront you

Oh... so basically, I'll put in time and effort to answer your question the best I can and you'll turn it around on me? That doesn't sound very honest. hmmmm.

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

and maybe make it clear to at least one of you just how absurd they are

Okay, so you're not actually interested in asking questions. You want to force your own opinion on us in the form of a question.

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

And I'll tell you now, if you people are going to Heaven, I'd choose Hell anytime.

Okay, so you're definitely not looking for answers from us. You openly despise us so much that you'd rather be tortured for eternity. Wow, that's harsh.

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

I won't get what I came here for from you

That's because we see through you. Your dishonest intentions were clear from the start. Just because you treat us as imbeciles doesn't we are imbeciles. Just that you are an intolerant person incapable of accepting the simple fact that some people have other beliefs that you do.

Did we ever come to your forum? No. You come here with the intent to make us see our "folly". Instead, your fallacies and errors got exposed.

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

I'll just be saying this so you people don't do the thing you always do: keep saying the same things over and over again

This is God's forum. We'll do whatever God wants us to do. If you want your rules to apply, start your own atheist forum and let your Terms of Service reflect that no Christians are allowed. Well, they are allowed, but only if they compromise on key issues to appease you.

Originally Posted by Brian Ashmore

and declaring yourselves winners after the opposing party walks away from the pointlessness that is wasting time on you.

You are describing your own exit strategy here. We already forgot about you and here you are waving your hands saying "look at me, I'm leaving!" Okay, fine. Leave already Goodbye, "winner" !

[upeoplercrazy]

So... would any of you actually saw-off one of your limbs for "eternal salvation"??


Serious question