Just a thought

[Red_Saiyuri]

Quite honestly, I've always been interested in the insantity and idiocy of radical Christianity. Thers a reason Churches like yours are called radical. I've seen friends of mine murdered by people like the ones in your "congregation" because they couldn't reconcile with the fact that there are other beliefs in the world. Friends who left behind children. Two of them are now orphans. Your entire system of beliefs is one contradiction after the other. "Jesus" loves everyone and "God" loves every human soul. We are all human. Pagan, Christian, Hinduist, Islamic. We all beat the same heart. I guess my point is this: I can't wait for you all to go to whatever afterlife you shall go to and have "God" and "Jesus" welcome you not with open arms and love, but with anger at how you've tainted what used to be a pure religion. You promote hate and violence at the hands of god, I can't wait to see what he has in store for you. I'll bet my life on the possibility that it isn't open arms and unconditional love, but that you'll be condemned to the same hell you condemn all "non believers" too. I'm Pagan. I can write complete sentences. I love. I breathe. I hope. I bleed. I cry. I feel pain. I am human. And people like all of you would see me hated and condemned. You might as well scoff at the person next to you. I am a 20 year old man who hates what Christianity has become. I hate that in it's name, more people are killed every year then by any disease or human cause. Murder, Famine, Disease, Suffering. The cost of Christianity tops them all. I hope some reads this and doesn't make threats of violence. I really do. I also wouldn't be surprised if I'm greeted with hate and disdain.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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I guess my point is this: I can't wait for you all to go to whatever afterlife you shall go to and have "God" and "Jesus" welcome you not with open arms and love, but with anger at how you've tainted what used to be a pure religion.

Friend, if you can prove your claim that Christianity as we practice it is different from Christianity as Jesus preached it, by posting in-context scripture from the KJV Bible, we will immediately add Independent Fundamentalist Baptist to the top of the list in our false religions register.

If you don't have a KJV Bible (since you are a "pagan", it's likely you burned your copy a long time ago), you can use this one online: KJV Bible.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Red_Saiyuri]

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Friend, if you can prove your claim that Christianity as we practice it is different from Christianity as Jesus preached it, by posting in-context scripture from the KJV Bible, we will immediately add Independent Fundamentalist Baptist to the top of the list in our false religions register.

If you don't have a KJV Bible (since you are a "pagan", it's likely you burned your copy a long time ago), you can use this one online: KJV Bible.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Can you prove that the bible you read is written in fact by Jesus or God? Can you? Is there a Bibliography or list of sources in the bible? No... I would never burn a bible. You think all Pagans are radicalist pitchfork wielding nutjobs, like we hate all that aren't pagan. I was taught by my teacher, the one who taught me what I know about my beliefs, that burning a bible is not okay. That the energies we believe in that surround us all will be tainted. The bible is a connection the a divinity. The one you believe in. Burning something like a bible is like burning a sacred artifact.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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Can you prove that the bible you read is written in fact by Jesus or God?

Yes, I can. Take a look at this.

Can you?

Again, yes, I can.

2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Tim 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Red_Saiyuri]

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While I'm on the topic, the bible has been re-written countless times. Re-written, mistranslated, re-translated, skewed, and bent to meet the writers own beliefs. This has been acknowledged on more then one occasion by pastors. Not liberal pastors either. Conservative, passionate individuals like yourself. I seek not to flame this board. I seek to meet at some middle-ground with the members of this forum. Every forum like this has at least one person like myself. People who are respected within the user-base and Pagan. Don't ask me why, i don't know why yet.

[Red_Saiyuri]

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Yes, I can. Take a look at this.


Again, yes, I can.

2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Tim 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Again, can you prove that those words remain un-tainted? Not mistranslated? You know, and I know that the original biblical manuscript was in arabic.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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While I'm on the topic, the bible has been re-written countless times. Re-written, mistranslated, re-translated, skewed, and bent to meet the writers own beliefs.

You are right, Hop Sing. There have been hundreds of bibles that have mistranslated, misrepresented, etc. I can't begin to name all of the false bibles that have mislead people straight into the pits of Hell, and is truly saddening. Luckily we have the only True Original Bible(tm) (note the capitalization), as written down by God in 1611.

This has been acknowledged on more then one occasion by pastors. Not liberal pastors either. Conservative, passionate individuals like yourself.

No True Christian(tm) would acknowledge that God's Word has ever been mistranslated or miscopied. That simply can't happen. It's like oil and water--mistakes and the Bible just don't mix. The Bible is either 100% true or 100% false, and we both know the answer to that.

I seek not to flame this board. I seek to meet at some middle-ground with the members of this forum. Every forum like this has at least one person like myself. People who are respected within the user-base and Pagan. Don't ask me why, i don't know why yet.

Middle-ground is for homos who can't choose a position. You sound like John Kerry: "I can't pick a position because I can't make a decision". Grow a pair and make a decision--are you for Christ or against Him? It's that simple. There is no "middle-ground" for people who sort of choose Jesus but don't. It's either Heaven or Hell--no ifs, ands or buts.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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Again, can you prove that those words remain un-tainted? Not mistranslated? You know, and I know that the original biblical manuscript was in arabic.

The original Bible was written in English, God's Language, in 1611. That's a fact that I'm tired of all you ignorant athiests coming in and arguing against. There have been imitation "Bibles" that Satan has tried to pawn off like a cheap chinese porno, but it's not fooling any True Christians(tm) anywhere

[Red_Saiyuri]

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*sighs* It would seem my welcome has been worn out. Pleasure to at least have a few replies where I'm not condemned to hell. Have a good day.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Just a thought

While I'm on the topic, the bible has been re-written countless times. Re-written, mistranslated, re-translated, skewed, and bent to meet the writers own beliefs.

There are several "translations" out there that twist the meaning to the "translators" beliefs. However, as God has promised, one line has been kept pure. That line is the one that goes through the Textus Receptus and culminates in the KJV.

Take a look at this.

This has been acknowledged on more then one occasion by pastors. Not liberal pastors either. Conservative, passionate individuals like yourself.

There's nothing to acknowledge. It's a fact that Satan wants to confuse folks by inventing new "translations" that twist the Word of God.

Take a look at this.

I seek not to flame this board.

Yet that's all you have done since you got here.

I seek to meet at some middle-ground with the members of this forum.

There is no "middle ground". What concord hath Christ with Belial? Jesus said:

Matt 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Nobar King]

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AYou know, and I know that the original biblical manuscript was in arabic.

Oh, yeah?

[Jean Poole]

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You know, and I know that the original biblical manuscript was in arabic.

God preserved the Bible in the KJV. English (or American as we call it), is therefore God's favorite language.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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It would seem my welcome has been worn out.

Odd. Usually for a welcome to wear out there would have to have been a welcome in the first place. We certainly don't welcome God-hating, Christian-hating, Jesus-rejecting hate mongers like you who relish nothing more than to persecute innocent people who just want to follow the Lord.

[JennyD]

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insantity and idiocy ... Churches like yours are called radical. ... Your entire system of beliefs is one contradiction after the other. ... I can't wait for you all to go to whatever afterlife you shall go to and have "God" and "Jesus" welcome you not with open arms and love, but with anger at how you've tainted what used to be a pure religion. You promote hate and violence at the hands of god, I can't wait to see what he has in store for you. I'll bet my life on the possibility that it isn't open arms and unconditional love, but that you'll be condemned to the same hell you condemn all "non believers" too.


I also wouldn't be surprised if I'm greeted with hate and disdain.

Hate and disdain, like the attacks and insults you launched into with your first post?

As you can see, you were greeted with friendly and learned responses from our Pastor Billy-Reuben. Are you proud of yourself, attacking innocent people on their church forum? Does that make you feel like a big man?

Pleasure to at least have a few replies where I'm not condemned to hell. Have a good day.

You condemn yourself to Hell with your disbelief and hatred of God.

[Red_Saiyuri]

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Just so you all know, a message has been sent to your isps email. And one will also be sent to the abuse account.