[Pastor Ezekiel]

Seventh-Day Adventists (or SDA) are NOT Christians simply because they ADD works to simple faith in Jesus Christ. According to the official Statement on Doctrine by the SDA, accepting Jesus as your personal Saviour is NOT sufficient to be saved. SDA's teach that the life a person lives must be taken into account, even after they have died. SDA's believe exclusively in a doctrine called the "Investigative Judgment" where Christ enters into the Holy of Holies in Heaven to decide whether or not we are "worthy" to enter Heaven. I can answer that question for all SDA's right now...NO!!! According to the Word of God, NO ONE is worthy of Heaven. We are all sinners deserving of Hell-fire and damnation. But thank God the Father, He sent His Son Jesus Christ into the world to pay for our sins with His blood. Eternal life is a FREE GIFT (Romans 5:15; 6:23), paid for by the blood of Jesus (Colossians 1:14). Tragically, Seventh-Day Adventists ADD good works to salvation, which is a damnable heresy.

SDA's also ADD the keeping of the Sabbath day to faith in Christ, which is NO faith at all. Either you are trusting Christ 100% or else you are not trusting Him at all. There is a fine line between Heaven and Hell my friend, and the dividing line is faith in Christ ALONE. John 16:6 proclaims, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." The Word of God teaches that there is ONLY ONE WAY to Heaven, and that is through Christ Jesus. Satan is a master deceiver (2nd Corinthians 11:13-15) and knows that some people are more difficult to con than others, so he must manufacture a false religion that looks very close to Christianity. Seventh-Day Adventism is so cleverly camouflaged by Satan that many Christians even consider SDA a "Christian cult" (such as Walter Martin's book, The Kingdom of the Cults). Mr. Martin is wrong on the SDA's, they are NOT Christians at all. How can you have a "Christian" cult?

The truth is that SDA's reject Jesus Christ as their Saviour the moment they ADD the Sabbath and their life's work to faith alone. Eternal life is a "gift" (Romans 6:23, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." A gift cannot have any strings attached otherwise it was never a gift to begin with. A gift simply needs to be received. If any Hell-deserving sinner will simply receive Jesus Christ as his Saviour, then he will be saved, "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" -Romans 10:13.

In addition, Ellen G. White is without a doubt the most predominant figure within SDA. There is an entire website dedicated to exposing her. SDA's elevate the writing of this foolish women to the level of the Bible. SDA's have a corrupted view of prophecy, akin to the demonic heresies of the Jehovah Witnesses. SDA's believe that the Lord began has work of "investigative judgment" in 1844. This doctrine was originally concocted as an attempt to avoid public embarrassment when their prediction that Christ would return failed. Yes, the SDA's set a date for Christ's return and He didn't return. So they set another date, and He still didn't return. Looking like idiots, they claimed that they had made a mistake, saying that Jesus had entered into the Holy of Holies in Heaven instead. By the way, the Branch Davidian cult (leader: David Koresh) in Waco, Texas was an offshoot of Seventh-Day Adventism.

SDA's also require baptism (baptismal regeneration). This is one of the biggest stumbling blocks to faith in the world today. If you place your faith in Jesus + baptism, then you are NOT trusting the Saviour. Baptismal regeneration is a lie of Satan.

SDA's worship the Sabbath, a grave mistake. Few people realize that Jesus IS OUR SABBATH. The Old Testament Sabbath day was a ceremonial law, not a moral law. It applied ONLY to the Jews, just as circumcision and the prohibition against eating pork. So for the sake of consistency, SDA's should never eat any bacon or ham, right? Just as with all false religions, it is hypocrisy. The Sabbath was a picture of Christ. Man worked six days, and then rested on the seventh. The Sabbath was representative of man ceasing from his own efforts and trusting wholly upon the Lord instead. This teaching is confirmed in Hebrews 4:3, "For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works." There is no more Sabbath day today because Jesus was the fulfillment of what the Sabbath pictured. Hebrews 10:1 teaches that the ceremonial laws were only a "shadow" of good things to come. When the sun is directly overhead there is no shadow. Likewise, when Christ fulfilled the Sabbath, it was no longer needed. If we rest in Christ (place our trust upon Him), then we will have our sins forgiven and go to Heaven.

I need not go into a lengthy article to expose Seventh-Day Adventism as a false religion. If they are wrong on salvation, they are damned to Hell. I say this with great sadness and with the hope that many Adventists reading this article will forsake their false religion and turn wholly to Jesus Christ.

[StarrKingGrad]

And there you have it, the mission statement of lazy Christianity. Just believe, and then you can spit on the poor, build a personal fortune by exploiting the downtrodden, whatever you want. The only problem is that it does not agree with the Bible:

Originally Posted by James 2:14-26

What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?... Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

So, Pastor Zeke, is faith without works dead and imperfect, or not?

[Bob4God]

GLORY! This nefarious cult of tofu-worshippers is a dangerous trap to the unsuspecting!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by StarrKingGrad

So, Pastor Zeke, is faith without works dead and imperfect, or not?

The answer, obviously, is yes and no.

[Father Thomas Martin]

Something I found out about their founder, Ellen Gould White:

1. Start with her name: ELLEN GOULD WHITE
2. Turn into Romanized spelling: ELLEN GOVLD VVHITE
3. Take out the non-Roman numerals: LL VLD VVI
4. Translate the Roman numerals to standard: 50, 50, 5, 50, 500, 5, 5, 1
5. Add them up: 50 + 50 + 5 + 50 + 500 + 5 + 5 + 1 = 666

There you have it
A valid mathematical equation which proves that the Seventh-Day Adventists are followers of the Beast!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Father Thomas Martin

Something I found out about their founder, Ellen Gould White:

1. Start with her name: ELLEN GOULD WHITE
2. Turn into Romanized spelling: ELLEN GOVLD VVHITE
3. Take out the non-Roman numerals: LL VLD VVI
4. Translate the Roman numerals to standard: 50, 50, 5, 50, 500, 5, 5, 1
5. Add them up: 50 + 50 + 5 + 50 + 500 + 5 + 5 + 1 = 666

There you have it
A valid mathematical equation which proves that the Seventh-Day Adventists are followers of the Beast!

Well well well, look who's back and doing the Lord's work (in his own way). I suppose you are an expert on all things Romanist and all things demonic.

[Brother Lazarus]

Originally Posted by StarrKingGrad

And there you have it, the mission statement of lazy Christianity. Just believe, and then you can spit on the poor, build a personal fortune by exploiting the downtrodden, whatever you want. The only problem is that it does not agree with the Bible:

So, Pastor Zeke, is faith without works dead and imperfect, or not?

What you don't understand is that being a True Christian and Bathing in the Blood of Jesus and accepting Him as your Savior makes it impossible for Satan to inspire you to works of evil. So yes, Just Believing IS the path to Heaven. Reliance on works will send you straight to Hell.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Originally Posted by Father Thomas Martin

A valid mathematical equation which proves that the Seventh-Day Adventists are followers of the Beast!

Oh, good, then maybe you and they can car-pool to hell.

[amy1100101]

Lol, kudos on the site-- very well-done, although disturbing. :p

I must, however, make a correction to your SDA article... Particularly the following comment:

So for the sake of consistency, SDA's should never eat any bacon or ham, right?

SDAs actually do follow the rules in Leviticus 11, or are encouraged to... so we don't eat any bacon or ham, or shellfish, or any fish without scales, or any animal that doesn't chew its cud, etc., etc. So we ARE consistent.


Also, I'd like to add (for the sake of anyone reading this who takes it too seriously) a reply to your statement:

Seventh-Day Adventists (or SDA) are NOT Christians simply because they ADD works to simple faith in Jesus Christ.

Obviously, you're taking this out of context. SDAs don't ADD works to simple faith, but simply teach that if one has TRUE faith, he/she will desire to do good works and follow the law of God. Faith in and acceptance of Jesus as one's personal Saviour is the only way to receive the free gift of eternal life, but just SAYING one believes is not enough. Basically, if you love God, you'll obey him, plain and simple. Just like with our earthly parents.


Oh, and you are right, some SDAs do elevate Ellen White to a pretty high status (she HAS written some pretty inspiring books), but to say this is all SDAs is quite the exaggeration. :p

Haha and mentioning the Branch Davidian cult being an SDA offshoot as an example of why SDAs are not Christians is such a logical fallacy and you know it! ;p Amazing how people eat this stuff up.

[Pfc. James Nye]

Hello.

SDA? "lol"? What about hefflehump or crittlecub? I can make up words too.

Nye

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Originally Posted by amy1100101

SDAs actually do follow the rules in Leviticus 11, or are encouraged to... so we don't eat any bacon or ham, or shellfish, or any fish without scales, or any animal that doesn't chew its cud, etc., etc. So we ARE consistent.

So you don't eat rabbits but Christian babies are perfectly OK?


Also, I'd like to add (for the sake of anyone reading this who takes it too seriously) a reply to your statement:

Obviously, you're taking this out of context. SDAs don't ADD works to simple faith, but simply teach that if one has TRUE faith, he/she will desire to do good works and follow the law of God. Faith in and acceptance of Jesus as one's personal Saviour is the only way to receive the free gift of eternal life, but just SAYING one believes is not enough. Basically, if you love God, you'll obey him, plain and simple. Just like with our earthly parents.

So do you kill disobedient children? Do you hate your parents? Are there any SDA homosexuals? What about catfish? Every SDA south of the Mason-Dixon line eats catfish!

I think you are a bit confused. Do you eat tuna?

[SayvedByTheLord]

Amy0x65 have you properly introduced yourself yet ?

Please tell us about every sordid act you have ever engaged in, and what is the most disgusting thing you've ever put in your mouth.

[amy1100101]

SDA? "lol"? What about hefflehump or crittlecub? I can make up words too.

I chuckle aloud at your snide comment, but I simply thought that using a common internet acronym would be acceptable seeing as this thread was started in 2009, and I was under the impression that anyone who knew enough about the internet to find and post in an obscure forum would be familiar with the usage of such.

Also, the original poster was kind enough to parenthetically define SDA as an acronym of the religion being discussed in this thread, and thus I deemed it appropriate to use instead of typing out the full name over and over.

I hope this clarifies the issue for you, and I apologize for any confusion.



(The semicolon and right parenthesis I used above are commonly understood to symbolize a winking, smiling face. To picture the face more clearly, tilt your head 90 degrees to the left to view the symbol and proceed to make use of your imagination.)

[amy1100101]

To Pastor Al E Pistle:

I'm pretty certain that Christian babies neither chew their cud nor have cleft hooves, so they would be off-limits, as well. Also, these reasons are beside the fact that such an action is addressed elsewhere in scripture, such as in Exodus 20:13.

Disobedient children are not killed, simply scolded and encouraged to show their love for their parents by being obedient, because their parents are setting rules for their own good. Also, such an act (the killing part) is addressed in the text mentioned above. And I completely and totally LOVE my mother! I could not ask for or desire a better parent!

I knew an SDA homosexual once. He knew his desires were not Biblical, and so he had vowed to remain celibate for the entirety of his life. He was born gay, but he also loved God and desired to obey Him. Other than him, I don't really know.

I was raised south of the Mason-Dixon line (fortunately), and not only have I never eaten catfish, but I also know that none of my Leviticus-11-following SDA friends have ever eaten catfish, either.

What am I confused about? What's wrong with tuna?

And no, personally, I do not eat tuna. I've been a vegetarian for over 14 years and have not knowingly eaten any animal in that time. But that involves a whole other group of radical believers (Hello, PETA!) and is a topic for another day, another thread.


To SayvedByTheLord:

Why did you refer to me with the suffix 0x65?

As for every sordid act I've ever engaged in, that's between me and God.

But the most disgusting thing I've ever put in my mouth was undoubtedly the flesh of an animal 14+ years ago... Others, however, would disagree with this assessment, but it's a subjective question, after all.


To Pfc. James Nye:

The symbol I meant to put at the bottom of my last message was

; )

but this new-fangled page on this here interweb just changed it into that little picture-looking object. Oh, the crazy kids these days, I tell you what.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Originally Posted by amy1100101

I chuckle aloud at your snide comment, but I simply thought that using a common internet acronym would be acceptable seeing as this thread was started in 2009, and I was under the impression that anyone who knew enough about the internet to find and post in an obscure forum would be familiar with the usage of such.

Also, the original poster was kind enough to parenthetically define SDA as an acronym of the religion being discussed in this thread, and thus I deemed it appropriate to use instead of typing out the full name over and over.

I hope this clarifies the issue for you, and I apologize for any confusion.



(The semicolon and right parenthesis I used above are commonly understood to symbolize a winking, smiling face. To picture the face more clearly, tilt your head 90 degrees to the left to view the symbol and proceed to make use of your imagination.)

My dear woman, you have been to school at one time or another....possibly even high school! Because we get few literate SDA people in here, and I don't care to postulate why there ARE so few, maybe you would consider engaging us for a brief time.

For the purposes of this conversation I will refrain from mentioning that women probably have no souls and listing all of the reasons people of your faith will be swimming in Fire Lake for eternity if you will be so kind as to answer my previous questions.

We can almost be friends! At least until GOD smites you.

[amy1100101]

I would indeed be amenable to "engaging" you all for a brief time. Religion is a favorite topic of conversation among SDAs, probably because we constantly feel the need to defend our Protestant denomination to the many uninformed conflict-lovers who mistakenly view us as a cult.

I would postulate that the reason there are so few literate "SDA people" on this site is that many of them likely find the content offensive, and they prefer to think on things that are pure, lovely, virtuous, and of good report. They see no point (or humor) in arguing with people who they probably really believe are close-minded, uneducated, fundamentalist "Christians."

I have indeed been to school at one time or another. But be not perplexed, because I made sure to learn all of the important skills a woman needs to become a Godly member of society, such as ironing, washing dishes, and raising children.

Please refer to my second post above -- you will find that I did, in fact, answer all of your previous questions already.

Feel free to respond, and ask any other questions you may have.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Originally Posted by amy1100101

I would indeed be amenable to "engaging" you all for a brief time. Religion is a favorite topic of conversation among SDAs, probably because we constantly feel the need to defend our Protestant denomination to the many uninformed conflict-lovers who mistakenly view us as a cult.

Wonderful! Welcome to JESUS' favorite forum! I will take into consideration your constant need to defend your mistakenly-termed cult.

I would postulate that the reason there are so few literate "SDA people" on this site is that many of them likely find the content offensive, and they prefer to think on things that are pure, lovely, virtuous, and of good report. They see no point (or humor) in arguing with people who they probably really believe are close-minded, uneducated, fundamentalist "Christians."

I misspoke. I was wondering why so few exist anywhere, not just here.

I have indeed been to school at one time or another. But be not perplexed, because I made sure to learn all of the important skills a woman needs to become a Godly member of society, such as ironing, washing dishes, and raising children.

That's two thirds of it! You aren't allowed to speak in church are you?

Please refer to my second post above -- you will find that I did, in fact, answer all of your previous questions already.

Yes, I overlooked it entirely! Tuna have no scales but I shan't belabor the point if you are a ...vegan? or Vegetarian? I know what you wrote, but I want to be clear in my mind.

Feel free to respond, and ask any other questions you may have.

I shall do so! What ingredients do you use to make cornbread? Do you like okra both ways? Do you garnish black-eyed peas? Do agree with PETA that fish should be renamed 'sea kittens' or do you think they have finally run off the rails?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Glory!!

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Well when I saw this, I thought maybe there was some hope for these people.

Adventist Church to begin 10 Days of Prayer

I did wonder why they only prayed for 10 days a year, rather than the more usual 365/366, but assumed this would be 24 hours a day. No.

Adventists will meet daily in churches as part of the Ten Days of Prayer program from Jan. 7 to 17. In many countries, the meetings take place in the evening and last an hour.

Well goodness me, how very exhausting for them. Even little Nathanael, my 2-year-old, prays for longer than that, and he does it every day of the year!

Oh, but wait!

A separate 100 Days of Prayer that specially focuses on the General Conference Session, a major business meeting of the world church, will begin on March 25 and continue through the end of the session in San Antonio, Texas, on July 11.

So that will make a total of 110 days when they pray and 255 when they don't.

That Ellen G White woman has a lot to answer for.


(Off-topic, there's something about her that reminds me of someone, but I can't work out who. It's the crazy way she stares at the camera and the shape of her face.)

[Jim Farmer]

She reminds me of someone too. But she looks a bit like a man with those heavy eyebrows. Was she a lezbean perhaps? If not, she certainly looks like a mad woman.
And they call her a prophet! Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
1Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.