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[Lesbith]

Hello there, fellow Christians.

My name is Lisbeth, 19 and I'm from the Netherlands. : ) I'm studying to become an German teacher.

I have a reason to be here. I'm Christian, I go to church, I pray, but still. I have this problem. Lately I have the feeling that I like girls. There is this one girl, who's in my class and I really really feel attracted to her. I mean: she is pretty in a way people can't even imagine.

This is my problem. I am so worried by this. God will hate me if I ask her out. I can't ask her out. It's against everything I stand for, but still I like her. I mean: I want to stay virgin until I'm married. I don't even date guys for that reason. Its just... for half a year now I'm looking at girls.

I hate myself for it. I have the feeling I'm sick in my head, but I just have the feeling there is nothing I can do about it.

It took me some time to have the guts to register her and ask for help. I feel really confused.

Sorry to bother you with this.

Lisbeth

[James Hutchins]

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Church? What Church do you attend, name and address please for verification.
What Bible do you use? Have you told your father you want to be a whore?

[Lesbith]

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I go to the Elim Baptist Church.

This is the adress.
Zuidkade 54, Drachten

And I read the normal bible. The newest Dutch translation of the bible, we have those at our church.

I havn't told my dad yet. I'm afraid my parents will get angry at me. Really They will hate me for 'loving' this girl. I don't want to be a whore, I don't want to be in love with this girl, but it just seems that this is the way it is. I feel so bad about it. I know.

I havn't told anyone yet, just you guys. I just don't know what to so. I don't want to go to hell, I love God, I love Jezus... Please, help me...

[James Hutchins]

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Missy, you need, rather you must get a KJV1611 Bible, it is the only accurate one in the world.

Either you want to be a lezbean queer, spitting in the eye of God and your parents or you want to be a True Christian women, and be showered with love and admiration. Your choice.

[Lesbith]

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Hm... I guess it is. I just like my bible as it is.

I'm wondering what my parents can do about it in the first place. Sorry for asking, but what can they do about it? Hit me until I fall in love with guys again? Don't think it will work that way.

I'm sure my friends wouldn't care, since they are not that much of Christians in the first place. But my parents... I'm just so afraid of what they will say.
I don't live with my parents anymore, that's something I should say at first. I live in Amsterdam. But I love my parents and I don't want to hurt them or anything. If I tell them my mom will think she's been a bad mother and my dad... I don't even want to start about that.

I'm just so confused. I'm thinking: god made me this way, so how can it be bad for me to like girls? Is she someone send by the devil to test me? I just don't understand. This is against everything I believe in.

Just help me, please...

[James Hutchins]

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Well Lisbeth, relying on a false Bible is part of your problem. Get the KJV. Tell the Pastor of his error.

True, they can try to beat the gay out of you but it is better for all if you just give this silliness up. If you want, you can email a Pastor here a picture of you and the girl and see if he can ask God directly.

Thing about being a gay, it is your parents fault too. But until you act, you can retain your purity and still have value to God. Just do not take that first lick.

[Lesbith]

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They can beat the gay out of me? Sorry, but that's just retarded. My parents have never ever hit me. Not even once. Next to that: it's illegal in the Netherlands to hit children, even if it's for their own good.

And why is it my parents fault too? They just raced me well. They learned me everything and told me about being gay and how God hates those 'incredebly insane' gay people.

I can't just give this silliness up. I love her and it is so hard to stop loving someone. I see her every day in class and I can't change school, since it's the best school for this study. I blocked her from my MSN, but I still think of her every time of the day.

Still, since I want to be cured, I think I will send one of the Pastor, so he can ask Him about what I should do.
But why the pictures? What do they need pictures for?

Thanks anyway.

[James Hutchins]

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They can beat the gay out of me? Sorry, but that's just retarded. My parents have never ever hit me. Not even once. Next to that: it's illegal in the Netherlands to hit children, even if it's for their own good.

Well, we have to obey secular law and Biblical law. If you write an affidavit stating you request the beating, I am sure the authorities will not prosecute your parents.

And why is it my parents fault too? They just raced me well. They learned me everything and told me about being gay and how God hates those 'incredebly insane' gay people.

See, they put the idea in your head. If they had instead kept you in a good Church, you would of never had the gay demons enter your rectum and play havoc with your morality.

I can't just give this silliness up. I love her and it is so hard to stop loving someone. I see her every day in class and I can't change school, since it's the best school for this study. I blocked her from my MSN, but I still think of her every time of the day.

Get a puppy instead. Get a job making shoes. Stop frittering the day away on perverted thoughts.

Still, since I want to be cured, I think I will send one of the Pastor, so he can ask Him about what I should do.
But why the pictures? What do they need pictures for?

Thanks anyway.

They need the pictures to know who is involved. The Netherlands is a far distance from the Church the cost incurred for a Dutch DoF file are high.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I'm sure my friends wouldn't care, since they are not that much of Christians in the first place. But my parents... I'm just so afraid of what they will say.

You should be more worried about what Jesus will say! He hates lesbian perverts with a passion!

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

They can beat the gay out of me? Sorry, but that's just retarded. My parents have never ever hit me. Not even once. Next to that: it's illegal in the Netherlands to hit children, even if it's for their own good.

Well there's your problem right there. Your parents are limp wristed liberals who are too timid to follow God's Holy Word to the letter. And you live in a society of anti-Christian nazis who want to legislate God out of existence!

The Bible tells us that beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

If they had loved you enough, they would have laid on good Christian beatings no matter what the local sharia law dictates. So you see, we can blame your desire to commit acts of perversion with this attractive young girl on your hateful, false Christian parents.

I'll keep you in my prayers young lady. I'll be thinking about you and Lenore deep into the night...

[Sariel]

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Hello there, fellow Christians.

My name is Lisbeth, 19 and I'm from the Netherlands. : ) I'm studying to become an German teacher.

I have a reason to be here. I'm Christian, I go to church, I pray, but still. I have this problem. Lately I have the feeling that I like girls. There is this one girl, who's in my class and I really really feel attracted to her. I mean: she is pretty in a way people can't even imagine.

This is my problem. I am so worried by this. God will hate me if I ask her out. I can't ask her out. It's against everything I stand for, but still I like her. I mean: I want to stay virgin until I'm married. I don't even date guys for that reason. Its just... for half a year now I'm looking at girls.

I hate myself for it. I have the feeling I'm sick in my head, but I just have the feeling there is nothing I can do about it.

It took me some time to have the guts to register her and ask for help. I feel really confused.

Sorry to bother you with this.

Lisbeth

Theres no shame in that it all
Yes, in religion that's an abomination.
But, be true to yourself.
I believe that we're all born a certain way, "gay" or straight.
And trying to be something we're not, well, that would be lying to yourself.
These church curing things, trust me, they dont work. Instead of attracting you to males, they make you feel sick everytime you would feel attracted/aroused by/to girls. Not making you straight, but asexual.
Although that's my opinion, i dont know the religious viewpoint, because i'm not a Christian, but i suggest you just follow your heart and do what you think you'll benefit the most from.

Also.. welcome!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Although that's my opinion, i dont know the religious viewpoint, because i'm not a Christian, but i suggest you just follow your heart and do what you think you'll benefit the most from.

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Proverbs 28:26

Your unsaved opinion isn't worth a tinker's damn.

The Holy Word of God is the only path to Salvation(r). If these girls had any Christian sense, they would be deeply ashamed of their perversion!

Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

[virgin_nyx]

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That is wrong and it ends there no but's no if's.You should stop looking at her,beg for mercy and salvation.Our one and only saviour,Jesus,will guide you.

[Lesbith]

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I pray, whenever I can, but it just seems that God isn't answering anything. It's like he's leaving me and my bad thoughts. He's not giving me any signs of being there for me.

I told my parents about my problem today and they hate me now. My dad won't talk to me anymore, he doesn't pick up his phone when I call him. Mommy feels miserable, she feels like she's been doing everything wrong.

Still, I really like this girl. I just can't ignore her, since she's in MY CLASS, what do you guys not understand about that?

[James Hutchins]

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Well, your parents have every right to be mad though I bet God is a whole lot madder. I am sure your parents have no idea how they failed, I am sure they are devestated right now. I would not be surprised if they decided to disown you.

Is tawdry teenaged lust worth it?

Did you consider requesting to be moved to a different class because the girl is a slut?

You know the right thing to do. I know the Pastor is praying that you give up these lezbean desires. I spoke to him this morning and he told me he is thinking hard about your problem and spent a better part of the night trying to work the demons out.

[Lesbith]

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I know God will be mad at me! He is, I can feel it. He has left me, I just know it! I might just go skip class tomorrow to visit my parents, if they even let me in. They have to, since I still have the key. I want to go and talk to them about the whole situation.

Besides: I am nineteen years old, I think I can tell myself what I can and can't do. I don't know it it's worth it. I just can't believe how easily He, God leaves me. I pray to Him, I ask Him for help but He just doesn't answer me. Why would He do that? I'm trying the best I can to avoid Lenore. I really do, but how can I do that when I see her about 40 hours a week.
I can't move to a different class. You see, this school is really small and we have only one German Teacher Class this year. In fact: there are only 7 people in my year. German-studies are not that populair and since I'm in my second year I just can't change from education.