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Old 04-11-2010, 01:34 PM
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Note: A bible study session from June 2005 starring Prune Danish and yours truly. Is it too early for nostalgia?

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I went to a Baptist Church the whole time i was growing up. I even married my husband in a Southern Baptist Church..but I was increasingly disturbed by things, that elders in the church were doing, molesting some of the young members, and raping a couple of the teen girls that went to the church.
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29

The Bible makes it clear: those Elders owe those girl's fathers some money. Plus, now those girls don't have to worry about looking for a husband, nor will never have to suffer through a divorce! What do you have to complain about?

Mind you, did these girls scream when they were raped? Deuteronomy 22:23-24 says that women who are raped and fail to �cry out loud� are most likely enjoying it, and therefore must be excecuted. Remember that with the coming Republican dominance of the Congress and Senate in November 2006, Biblical law will be instated in America. Talking too much about these rape-enjoying harlot friends of yours might result in their execution.

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Telling them that if they told that they would go to Hell, because the preacher or decon was showing them the sins of young men and that it was their duty to teach them from GOD....is that right?
There's nothing un-Biblical about that. After all, women who have been tramatized by rape often do not want to engage in sexual activity. This means less fornification - less sin. Realize that Jesus says you're better off gouging out your own eye than staring at a member of the opposite sex, because it's better to live without an eye than to burn in hell eternally. So, it's better to live a few decades of life of trama than to burn for billions of years in hell because of lust and fornification.

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I thought in the bible it said that you were not to lay with a child! Taking one's innocence is a sin correct?�
What on earth are you talking about? It doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible! Quick, brainiac, what is the age of consent according to the Bible? There isn't one!

It seems that due to your overwelming assault of anti-Christian gibberish, this particular heresy has gone un-rebuked. For now, I demand that you provide quoted scripture to back up any claim you make about the bible.

Go to biblegateway.com, and use the search engine to search for this imaginary passage of yours.

Clearly you have been taught a distorted view of the Bible, and this is what was turned you away from the Blood of the Lamb and towards the Sodomite Semen of Satan.

Let's talk about some Biblical passages that DIRECTLY contradict your heresy:

You've read a few pages into the Bible, have you? Far enough to read about Lott, a true Biblical hero (whom the famous republican Trent Lott is named after.) In Genesis 19:8 He offers his daughters to a crowd of rapists in order to appease them. Later, Lott impregnates both of them (Genesis 19:36)

Genesis 38:16-24 Tells a very interesting story of a man named Judah whom lived with his widowed daughter in law. His daughter in law was grieving and wearing the veils of mourning which Judah mistook for the clothing of a prostitute. He ended up impregnating his daughter in law and she left the city. On a later date Judah sees the young woman again and demanded she be burned for being a prostitute.

So in short, a Christian man can commit incest, use a prostitute, and impregnate a MUCH younger woman without sinning.

Zechariah 14:1-2 says that God helps rape women:

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished

Despite the insessant shrieking of the feminazis, the Bible makes it clear that Women and Children are plunder:

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.

Where these girls of German or Italian decent? Then God might consider them plunder from WW2. If they're of British or Canadian decent, God might consider them plunder from the revolutionary war or the war of 1812.

Christians are allowed to sell their daughters as sex slaves, Exodus 21:7-11 lays out all the specific red tape. Had these girls at your church been sold by their fathers according to Biblical regulations?

Numbers 31: 14-18 Moses tells his men to kill all the males, non-virginal women, elderly and children of the Midianite tribe. The virgin girls are kept for raping. The virgins are not "wives" as false Christians claim, if you read later down in the scripture God states that the Jews can not even marry a Midianite woman (with exception to Moses).

Deuteronomy 20:13-15 Kill all the men and boys in the cities that God �delivers into your hands,� but keep the women for raping.

Deuteronomy 21:11-14 If you see a pretty woman among the captives then just take her home and �go in unto her.�

In 2 Samuel 12:11-14 God publically rapes women in order to get revenge on their husband, and then kills a baby just to make sure he's made his point:

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]

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If the rapist is married what does he do ? He can't divorce his present wife then remarry as that would be adultery, but then he would be disobeying the bible by not marrying the girl he raped. And he can't marry the girl without a divorce as that would be bigamy. Any answers to how this would be resolved ? (Just wondering)
This is exactly what happens when a secular society tries to impose its God-hating, worldly rules on God's chosen people. Gods does not set any limitations on how many brides a True Christian may have:

Exodus 21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

Those are the words of GOD: as long as a man can feed them, dress them and bed them, the sky's the limit. Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, and for reasons that I must confess elude me he was still considered a wise man.


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Lady RavenStar @ Aug 26 2005, 12:09 PM Oh right, please remember I have NEVER read the bible I was just told bigamy wasn't allowed. But maybe that's just for women.
Bigamy is not only unlawful for women. It's also unlawful for bishops and deacons:

1st Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
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1st Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

Titus 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
Titus 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
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"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29
No to pry Bother Jeb, but this is not the King James Version of Deuteronomy 22:28-29.

I was shocked to look it up and find it to be the "New Living Translation." Perhaps you might want to change this?
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No to pry Bother Jeb, but this is not the King James Version of Deuteronomy 22:28-29.

I was shocked to look it up and find it to be the "New Living Translation." Perhaps you might want to change this?
You have to understand, this way back in the hazy, idealistic days of 2005. I thought that it was more important for illiterate sinners to understand what I was preaching. Today I understand that Jesus told us to preach to the world - he didn't say anything about people having to understand any of it.

I hope you can forgive my youthful indiscretions.
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You have to understand, this way back in the hazy, idealistic days of 2005. I thought that it was more important for illiterate sinners to understand what I was preaching. Today I understand that Jesus told us to preach to the world - he didn't say anything about people having to understand any of it.

I hope you can forgive my youthful indiscretions.
Certainly Bother Jeb. As a young Christian (26 years of age) I know that I still have indiscretions, as I'm sure you will find in my early posts on questioning the KJV1611's infallibility. However, after reading these Godly forums I've been able to gain much knowledge that I did not have before and am learning from LBC every day.
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However, after reading these Godly forums I've been able to gain much knowledge that I did not have before and am learning from LBC every day.

And the love, don't forget the love for our brothers and sisters @ LBC. Heterosexual love, of course; none of that queer crap.
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