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  • Jeb Stuart Thurmond
    Didn't write the Bible, just obeys it
     
    • Jun 2007
    • 6574

    #1

    Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

    Jesus gets FURIOUS when scientists play God!

    What are these vile, wicked scientists planning to do with this? Cross-breeding blind people with fishes? There's so much technobabble I can't make heads or tails of most of it. Either way, God decided those fishes were meant to be blind, not evolution, and it's a crime against God to take their God-given blindness away!

    Cross-breeding blind cave fish with those from separate populations of blind cave fish can partially restore their vision, overriding half a million years of evolutionary change, say U.S. scientists.

    "These fish are descended from ancestors that have been isolated in the dark for nearly one million years and most likely haven't had the capacity for vision for at least half that time," New York University biology professor Richard Borowsky, the study's lead author, said in a release.

    "But by recombining the right genes through hybridization, you can partially restore vision. Not only are the structures of the eye restored to the point where they regain function, but all the connections to the brain for proper processing of information not used for that enormous length of time are restored."

    The finding, which may have implications for understanding human eyes, was published in Monday's issue of the journal Current Biology.

    The study suggests that genetic engineering can override, at least in part, evolutionary change in just one generation. That's because mutations in different genes are responsible for the loss of sight in separate cavefish lineages.

    "Restoration of the ability to see comes in a single generation because the populations residing in different caves are blind for different reasons — i.e., different sets of genes are non-functional in the different populations," said Borowsky.

    "[In the hybrids], the deficiencies in one lineage are compensated for by the good gene copies in the other lineage, and vice versa."

    Researchers crossed four populations of blind fish from caves in northeast Mexico. Sightless for at least half a million years, the fish evolved from sighted surface fish.

    By creating hybrids of the different cave fish populations, researchers found that nearly 40 per cent of some hybrid crosses could see.

    The farther apart the caves of the hybrids' parents were, the more likely it was that their offspring could see.

    That backs up the theory that populations separated by greater distances are more distantly related and therefore have less overlap in the genes responsible for their blindness, said Borowsky.
    Can anyone make any sense out of this babble? I think they just make up big words on the spot!
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  • Dr. Zaius
    Member of Landover Zoological Society
    Forum Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 249

    #2
    Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

    I don't understand the point of giving sight to fish that live in dark caves. That doesn't seem like REAL science.
    Ack!

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    • Jeb Stuart Thurmond
      Didn't write the Bible, just obeys it
       
      • Jun 2007
      • 6574

      #3
      Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

      Originally posted by Dr. Zaius View Post
      I don't understand the point of giving sight to fish that live in dark caves. That doesn't seem like REAL science.
      Notice how Scientist spend all their time dealing with pointless issues. Giving us solutions in search of a problem. If they were as great as the liberal establishment claims they are, why have they done nothing to deal with the REAL problems threatening the world: the homosexuality epidemic, or the unprecidented scourge of disobedient young people?
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      • Roger_Clark_Smith
        Unsaved trash
        Under Investigation
        • Jan 2008
        • 3

        #4
        Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

        Originally posted by Jeb Thurmond View Post
        Notice how Scientist spend all their time dealing with pointless issues. Giving us solutions in search of a problem. If they were as great as the liberal establishment claims they are, why have they done nothing to deal with the REAL problems threatening the world: the homosexuality epidemic, or the unprecidented scourge of disobedient young people?
        If you think the real problems of the world are the homosexual and disobedient
        young people, then you have your priorities in the wrong places.

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        • One-eyed Jack
          True Christian™
          True Christian™
          • Nov 2007
          • 1092

          #5
          Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

          I can't understand this experiment. This gene-swapping -- giving rats human ears and a penchant for Beethoven, making glow-in-the dark fruitflies, green cats, and now blind cave fish with eyes (huh?) -- this gene-swapping seems to be an inversion of God's order!



          For God created the creatures, each in their kind, and I am sure He did not intend all this genetic silly-buggery.

          And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25

          Surely it is an abomination.

          ~~ OEJ

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78556

            #6
            Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

            Originally posted by Roger_Clark_Smith View Post
            If you think the real problems of the world are the homosexual and disobedient
            young people, then you have your priorities in the wrong places.
            Well, then please enlighten us Roger. What is, according to you, the "real" problems of the world?

            Lackadaisical attitudes like yours is how the AIDS gets spread. God wants to protect us from that by smiting queers with it. Your scientists think THEY are God, and they keep trying to subvert His will by going behind His loving back.

            God is not tricked, Roger. And He will send you to everlasting hellfire for being soft on queers too.
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • ultima
              Unsaved trash
               
              • Jan 2008
              • 41

              #7
              Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

              Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
              Well, then please enlighten us Roger. What is, according to you, the "real" problems of the world?

              Lackadaisical attitudes like yours is how the AIDS gets spread. God wants to protect us from that by smiting queers with it. Your scientists think THEY are God, and they keep trying to subvert His will by going behind His loving back.

              God is not tricked, Roger. And He will send you to everlasting hellfire for being soft on queers too.
              Starving children. Religious fanatics (not only those here but fundamentalists across the world). Wars all around the world. Cancer. Aids. Ignorance in our world. Other diseases.
              People who think bacteria is the result of demons. People who hunt witches. People who try and justify their negative actions with the Holy Bible. Fundamentalists.
              People who make false claims about God and assume things about others, especially in regards to their sexual preference. People who bash other religions with as much, if not more, foundation than their own. People who bash other religions without understanding them.
              People who make up facts about Ann Frank and minorities they hate for no reason. Racists. People who hate people different than themselves. People who hate Jewish or Black people simply because of the way they were born all the while ignoring the fact that they had no choice in this.

              There's your real problems. Sure beats the choices of a few people and some youth who refuse to judge others by their skin color.

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              • lord warrior
                Confirmed Enemy of God
                • Sep 2007
                • 406

                #8
                Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

                These scientist want to say that they can do what Jesus did with a touch of his hand.
                Jesus cured the blind man with just a touch, so these scientist want to say, after years of "research" and billions of dollars, that they can do the same thing as Jesus. Sure you can help a fish, but can you heal with a touch? They will never be like Jesus, and are doomed to fail and burn in hell forever.

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                • ultima
                  Unsaved trash
                   
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 41

                  #9
                  Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

                  Originally posted by lord warrior View Post
                  These scientist want to say that they can do what Jesus did with a touch of his hand.
                  Jesus cured the blind man with just a touch, so these scientist want to say, after years of "research" and billions of dollars, that they can do the same thing as Jesus. Sure you can help a fish, but can you heal with a touch? They will never be like Jesus, and are doomed to fail and burn in hell forever.
                  Yeah, I'm sure the common atheist scientist's primary goal is to look like Jesus. It's not like curing blindness has anything to do with it right?

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                  • Nobar King
                    Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
                    Christ's Guardian
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 23748

                    #10
                    Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

                    Now if they had transplanted the blind fish's eyes into little Stevie Wonder and let him see, then I would be impressed
                    May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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                    • Virginia Day Templeton
                      Christ's Battle Axe
                       
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 2827

                      #11
                      Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

                      Didn't that pickaninny OD decades ago? Well, I guess that would be impressive, then!
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                      • Dr. Zaius
                        Member of Landover Zoological Society
                        Forum Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 249

                        #12
                        Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

                        It just keeps getting worse. Now they are making little demons out of mice.
                        Molecular Evolution: Mice Given Bat-like Forelimbs Through Gene Switch

                        ScienceDaily (Jan. 16, 2008) — A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1 gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed abnormally long forelimbs.

                        While forelimb length is just one of several key morphological changes that occurred during the evolution of the bat wing, this unprecedented finding demonstrates that evolution can be driven by changes in the patterns of gene expression, rather than solely by changes in the genes, themselves.

                        Dr. Behringer describes the significance of his finding as such: "Darwin suggested that "successive slight modifications" would ultimately result in the evolution of diverse limb morphologies, like a hand, wing, or fin. The genetic change we engineered in mice may be one of those "slight modifications" to evolve a mammalian wing."
                        Ack!

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                        • Pastor Ezekiel
                          Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                           
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 78556

                          #13
                          Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

                          Did you know that these Darwinista blasphemers are now making yeast live 10 times longer?! THIS is an affront to God!

                          Life Expectancy Of Yeast Extended To 800 In Yeast Years,
                          No Apparent Side Effects


                          ScienceDaily (Jan. 14, 2008) — Biologists have created baker's yeast capable of living to 800 in yeast years without apparent side effects.

                          The basic but important discovery, achieved through a combination of dietary and genetic changes, brings science closer to controlling the survival and health of the unit of all living systems: the cell.

                          "We're setting the foundation for reprogramming healthy life," said study leader Valter Longo of the University of Southern California.
                          No APPARENT side effects, indeed. I'd say an eternity in the lake of fire is a side effect worth considering, wouldn't you?
                          Who Will Jesus Damn?

                          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                          • Nobar King
                            Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
                            Christ's Guardian
                            True Christian™
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 23748

                            #14
                            Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

                            Another story about how our taxpayer dollars are going to fund incredulous scientific experiments:
                            Scientists use sound to teach fish to catch themselves

                            By JAY LINDSAY

                            BOSTON - Call them Pavlov's fish: Scientists are testing a plan to train fish to catch themselves by swimming into a net when they hear a tone that signals feeding time. If it works, the system could eventually allow black sea bass to be released into the open ocean, where they would grow to market size, then swim into an underwater cage to be harvested when they hear the signal.

                            What's next, teaching them to coat themselves in batter and hop inside a fryer?

                            "It sounds crazy, but it's real," said Simon Miner, a research assistant at the Marine Biological Laboratory at Wood's Hole, which received a $270,000 grant for the project from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Miner said the specially trained fish could someday be used to bolster the depleted black sea bass stock. Farmed fish might become better acclimated to the wild if they can be called back for food every few days.

                            The bigger goal is to defray the costs of fish farming, an increasingly important source of the world's seafood. If fish can be trained to return to the farmer after feeding in the open ocean for several days, farms could save money on feed and reduce the amount of fish waste released in concentrated areas.

                            The key question for fish farmers: How many fish will actually return, and how many will be lost to predators or simply swim away?

                            Randy MacMillan, president of the National Aquaculture Association, said fish farmers won't be easily convinced to adopt open-ocean ranching. "The commercial side is going to be skeptical," said MacMillan, who works on a trout farm in Idaho.

                            The Massachusetts project is one of several experiments funded by the federal government last year as part of aquaculture research. "We're looking for innovations that will actually make a difference for coastal communities and the environment," said Michael Rubino, manager of NOAA Aquaculture. "It fits in both."

                            Previous experiments have used sound to train a fish to feed — similar to what Russian scientist Ivan Pavlov did in his famous dogs that salivated at the sound of a bell, expecting food.

                            In Japan, scientists have used sound to keep newly released farmed fish in certain areas, where they could be caught in traditional ways. But no one has ever tried to get fish to leave and return to an enclosure where they can be scooped up.

                            The project began last summer using 6,500 black sea bass, a stout, bottom-dwelling fish found between Florida and Cape Cod that migrates south of New Jersey in the winter. The species grows up to 3 pounds and 20 inches long and has a thick, white flesh that can be filleted for broiling or cut into nuggets for frying.

                            Miner said the first objective was to see if the fish could truly be trained. He got his answer after keeping the fish in a circular tank, then sounding a tone before he dropped food in an enclosed "feeding zone" within the tank that the fish could enter only through a small opening.

                            Researchers played the tone for 20 seconds, three times a day, for about two weeks. Afterward, whenever the tone sounded, "you have remote-control fish," Miner said. "You hit that button, and they go into that area, and they wait patiently," he said. Miner is now trying to figure out how long the fish remember to associate the tone with food. He feeds the fish outside the feeding zone without a tone for a few days and then tests if they will still head for the feeding area when the tone sounds again. Some fish forgot after five days. Others remembered as long as 10. Miner said the strength of memory seems tied to how long the fish are trained.

                            By May, researchers hope to bring about 5,000 black sea bass to a feeding station called an "AquaDome," a structure about 33 feet across and 16 feet high that will be anchored to the ocean floor in Buzzards Bay, 45 miles southeast of Boston.

                            The sea bass will be fed in the dome after a tone sounds. After researchers feel they've been sufficiently trained, they will be freed from the dome. A day or two later, scientists will sound the tone again and see how many bass return. They'll do the experiment again around summer's end. The tone will have a range of about 100 meters in every direction. Miner said sea bass are a territorial fish that prefer a rocky bottom, like in Buzzards Bay, where they can forage for food. He doesn't think they will stray too far from the dome.

                            MacMillan is not convinced the fish won't just swim away. "My experience with fish is they will wander far and wide," he said. MacMillan said getting farmed fish to supplement their diets with ocean feeding is intriguing, but farmed fish now get a steady diet that produces reliable growth. He also expects large numbers of released fish to be lost to predators.

                            Scott Lindell, the project leader, said losing fish is a concern. But the savings of using the trained fish and the AquaDome is potentially huge: Even if only half the fish come back after reaching market size, the operation would be more profitable than current methods. The dome, for instance, is 10 times cheaper than a standard aquaculture sea cage.

                            Miner said real answers won't start coming until the fish hit Buzzards Bay this spring. "There's probably 18,000 ways for it to go wrong and only one way to go right."
                            May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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                            • Don the Baptist
                              True Christian™
                              True Christian™
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 480

                              #15
                              Re: Scientists playing God again! Disgusting!

                              Here is yet another example of Godless, Jesus hating scientists trying to play the Almighty (from http://www.peta.org/):

                              PETA - Kathy Guillermo - Are worms gay? If they are, what does that mean for humans? Such questions may sound entirely irrelevant to anything in our lives, but some scientists, including Erik Jorgensen at the University of Utah, have apparently received money to study these questions. The worms—nematodes, really—are tiny, 1-millimeter-long creatures who live in soil. Most are hermaphrodites, which means that each worm produces both sperm and eggs. The Times of London reported that Jorgensen activated a gene in the hermaphrodite worms’ brains, which apparently convinced them to try to mate with other hermaphrodites rather than just with the male worms.

                              Who ever heard of a homer worm, thats just plain silly. I have fished with plenty of them and have yet to uncover two sweaty worms having their ways with one another in my bait box, one bent over a dirtclod while the other one commits sodomy on him. Even if worms are gay that means nothing for humans (as the article asks) because Jesus can regenerate us while the poor queer worms have no recourse.


                              Isaiah 36.12 - But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

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