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  • What is "sin", anyway?

    Every day, someone joins this forum and complains. "My favorite activity is a sin. I don't understand why; it's not hurting anyone!"

    Sometimes I feel like I'm at a bad restaurant, being shown the whine list:
    "I like wearing my blended-fabric underwear. It's comfortable. How can that be a sin? Who's being harmed?"

    "Lobster is delicious, what's wrong with eating it?"

    "It's great fun to have my anus repeatedly violated by lustful strangers in men's rooms. Why should God care? It's just not logical!"

    "Why should I be going to hell just because I had sex outside of wedlock? That makes no sense!"

    "I'm a good person and help others. So I should go to Heaven even if I don't believe in Jesus! It's not fair!"
    All these whines have one thing in common: They stem from a basic misunderstanding of the nature of sin.

    Sin isn't about harming others. It's not about being a meanie. And being a good person isn't about helping others or being nice. That's not what God is all about.

    Sin is disobeying God.

    It's really that simple. God has provided over 600 Commandments in the Bible. He expects you to follow each and every one, to the letter.

    Disobeying God is sinning. Sins may seem harmless to you, and they may even occur in complete isolation from anyone else; for example, boiling a young goat in its mother's milk and eating it. Or answering a few work e-mails on the Sabbath. Who is harmed? Nobody! But it's disobedient to God, and therefore sin.

    You don't have to understand WHY God has commanded you to do or not to do something; just obey. That is the root of Christianity; not loving others, not being a nice person, not helping your neighbor. The root is obedience to God.

    Obey, and go to Heaven where you get to praise God for being so perfect, without ceasing, for all eternity.

    Disobey, and go to Hell, God's Lake of Fire, where you get to be burned alive, unable to escape and unable to die, for all eternity.

    Which sounds like a better option?

    I have read the Bible and understand God's Truth. I know what's going to happen to me when I die, without the slightest doubt. Do you?
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    Re: What is "sin", anyway?

    You are so right, Rev. Rodimer! When you think about it, what was so bad about eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge? It was just a piece of fruit, right? And it was just one more tree in a whole garden that we were allowed to eat.

    And why God made a magical tree with superpowered fruit that could make man like God-- knowing good and evil -- is something that we don't ask. We obey. Just like Eve and Adam (notice that this is one time when the woman should come first) did not.

    If people would just obey God in every single one of His directives than things would be fine. After all, God is all knowing and therefore, pretty smart, right? So it stands to reason that He knows what is best for us.

    So, why NOT obey? It would be stupid not to when God plainly only wants to look after us. Plus, if we don't obey, He punishes us. Severely.

    So, what could be better than obediance to someone who knows best and who strikes out violently when He doesn't get what He wants?


    Nothing. That's what's better.


    Sincerely Yours,

    Handmaiden
    His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

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    • #3
      Re: What is "sin", anyway?

      Sin is harming other people.
      God didnt tell me anything, from birth to these days.

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      • #4
        Re: What is "sin", anyway?

        Originally posted by Stupiddork33 View Post
        Sin is harming other people...
        So all those brave men and women in the armed forces, defending our way of life from racist, misogynistic, religious nutjob haters in Iraq and Afghanistan are going to hell? The cop who puts the rapist in jail is going to hell?

        ...God didnt tell me anything, from birth to these days.
        So where do you get your knowledge of God? It's certainly not the Bible (or the Koran, or the Torah, or the Talmud, or the Bhagavad Gita, or the Sutras, or the Guru Garanth Sahib, or any of the hundreds of other religious texts I've read).

        You just made Him up in your own image, didn't you? Are you surprised when nobody else shares your "vision"?

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        • #5
          Re: What is "sin", anyway?

          Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
          So all those brave men and women in the armed forces, defending our way of life from racist, misogynistic, religious nutjob haters in Iraq and Afghanistan are going to hell? The cop who puts the rapist in jail is going to hell?



          So where do you get your knowledge of God? It's certainly not the Bible (or the Koran, or the Torah, or the Talmud, or the Bhagavad Gita, or the Sutras, or the Guru Garanth Sahib, or any of the hundreds of other religious texts I've read).

          You just made Him up in your own image, didn't you? Are you surprised when nobody else shares your "vision"?
          Superduh obviously has the mind of a child. I shudder to think he is communicating with you, an admitted atheist. But that is the trouble with the internet.
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          • #6
            Re: What is "sin", anyway?

            Originally posted by Superdark33 View Post
            Sin is harming other people.
            Try reading the OP — yeah, I know, what a concept — and learning just how untrue that is.
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            • #7
              Re: What is "sin", anyway?

              1 Samuel 15:23 “For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.”
              Sin is rebellion. Anyone who uses his free will to choose to remain in sin is a practicing witch.
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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              • #8
                Re: What is "sin", anyway?

                Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                Sin is rebellion. Anyone who uses his free will to choose to remain in sin is a practicing witch.
                . . . and we know what God wants us to do with witches.
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                • #9
                  Re: What is "sin", anyway?

                  Originally posted by Superdark33 View Post
                  Sin is harming other people.
                  God didnt tell me anything, from birth to these days.
                  Since you seem to have anointed yourself the new oracle of mankind, perhaps you would like to further your solipsism by telling us if it is alright to harm yourself.
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                  • #10
                    Re: What is "sin", anyway?

                    Originally posted by Superdark33 View Post
                    Sin is harming other people.
                    God didnt tell me anything, from birth to these days.
                    That's silly! How does a man marring the corners of his beard (Leviticus 19:27) which is expressly forbidden by the LORD, hurt other people?

                    Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What is "sin", anyway?

                      When i said 'Harming other people', i ment Killing, stealing, hurting their feelings, rapeing, insulting and such.

                      A cop who puts a rapeist in jail is a hero. cuz he stopped an evil humen being from doing his evil.
                      Soliders who fight by the jenneva law are heros.
                      Soliders that piss on bodys are evil.

                      Thats what i ment.

                      God wanted us to live in peace. not kill each other over what he actually ment.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What is "sin", anyway?

                        Originally posted by Superdark33 View Post
                        When i said 'Harming other people', i ment Killing, stealing, hurting their feelings, rapeing, insulting and such.
                        What about such acts as eating blood (Acts 15:28-29), fornication (again, Acts 15:28-29), and homosexuality (Romans 1:26-27)? The Bible says that they are sinful, regardless of whether they harm other people.

                        God wanted us to live in peace. not kill each other over what he actually ment.
                        Did He really now?

                        Matt. 10:34-36: Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household.
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                        • #13
                          Re: What is "sin", anyway?

                          Originally posted by Superdark33 View Post
                          When i said 'Harming other people', i ment Killing, stealing, hurting their feelings, rapeing, insulting and such...
                          Guess what you're doing here? Hypocrite.

                          ...A cop who puts a rapeist in jail is a hero. cuz he stopped an evil humen being from doing his evil...
                          But he deprived the rapist of his freedom, which is harming the rapist, and you're against that.

                          ...Soldiers who fight by the Geneva Conventions are heroes...
                          Between Google and Wikipedia, how are kids STILL so stupid these days?

                          ...Soldiers that piss on bodies are evil...
                          Even if, up until that incident, they'd fought honourably? All of sudden, they're evil? Or are you going to "but what I really really meant was" again and again and again and again....

                          ...That's what I meant...
                          Dear Lord (that doesn't exist), give me strength...

                          ...God wanted us to live in peace. not kill each other over what he actually ment.
                          Again, how do you know this? What is the source for your beliefs? Because that sure as shootin' isn't what the Bible says.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What is "sin", anyway?

                            Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
                            Dear Lord (that doesn't exist), give me strength...
                            Lord forgive me, but that made me chuckle.

                            Anyway, I do have one point I agree with Supertard on. I actually think that God didn't want us to kill one another over what he actually meant. Thats why the KJV is so clear and consistent - to try to minimise that problem. Why would he want us to kill each over what he meant?

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                            • #15
                              Re: What is "sin", anyway?

                              Originally posted by Supertard33 View Post
                              God wanted us to live in peace. not kill each other over what he actually ment.
                              Can you show me where the Bible says this?

                              What god are you talking about, anyway? The one you made up in your head?
                              Originally posted by Catherine Moore View Post
                              Lord forgive me, but that made me chuckle.

                              Anyway, I do have one point I agree with Supertard on. I actually think that God didn't want us to kill one another over what He actually meant. Thats why the KJV is so clear and consistent - to try to minimise that problem. Why would He want us to kill each over what He meant?
                              True. He wants us to kill each other when He has instructed us to.

                              For example, false prophets.

                              Example of false prophet: Supertard.
                              Bible boring? Nonsense!
                              Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
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