I'm here to judge you

[Ingodsgreathands]

In my opinion, I think you guys have had too many mushrooms, so all your doing are being hypocrites...

[Ingodsgreathands]

Re: Super Mario Galaxies: a homosexual recruiting tool!

you guys are insane

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: I'm here to judge you

Hello, friend. Please tell us, in your judgment, how are we hypocrites?

Tell us about yourself. What church do you attend? What are some of your favorite Bible passages?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: I'm here to judge you

Argh. "Your" is possessive: your chickens are running away. "You're" is a contraction of "you" and "are": you're a bunch of hypocritical mollusks.

I do wish new posters could master the rudiments of 5th-grade English.

Anyway. We are not hypocritical, unless you think the Bible is hypocritical. The Bible says that Christians are called to execute vengeance on the heathen, to keep apart from the followers of Belial; and to abhor the bloody man, and the fool, and the liar. The Bible tells us the Godly way to obtain and discipline slaves, and tells us that we must not eat shellfish or suffer a false prophet to live.

What is hypocritical about that?

Quote us some scripture, and we will go from there.

Sheesh. Derned newbies, sophisticated as caterpillars and intelligent as sandstone.

~~ OEJ

[The Adversary]

Re: I'm here to judge you

Argh. "Your" is possessive: your chickens are running away. "You're" is a contraction of "you" and "are": you're a bunch of hypocritical mollusks.

I do wish new posters could master the rudiments of 5th-grade English.



Sheesh. Derned newbies, sophisticated as caterpillars and intelligent as sandstone.

~~ OEJ

Good observation, Jack. Also, "Ingodsgreathands" does not contain an apostrophe, so it is also obvious that this one worships some sort of pagan (i.e. peasant) religion with multiple gods. Just how many hands is he in, one must wonder?

[AnonymousGuest]

I'm NOT here to judge you.

Let me just start out by saying, I understand that you're all set in your ways, and nothing I say will influence your opinion in the least. Let me follow that up by saying I am supremely disappointed with the lot of you. Overlooking the obvious lack of research that the original poster of this thread utilized, and the absolutely useless argument that has spawned well over a hundred pages of babbling (that before the jump to this new forum), we have at the core an age old problem: Christians searching for something or someone to burn at the stake.

It's not that the awareness of the Brethren is the problem, we all know we are to "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: (1 Pet. 5:8)." No, your vigilance is not at fault. It is the way you deal with this "problem" if you can even call it that.

Rather than welcoming the opinion of the people who are filling your little forum with complaints, and answering it with the kind of loving tutelage that Christ Himself would have shown to such a group, you are instead making fun of their spelling and pronunciation. Or isn't that how you'd like to be seen? As the big group of people who can't see past a stray ellipses. Oh, yes, you're pleasing the Heavenly Father with that attitude.

You're entire attitude in this forum is an attitude of judgment and hatred. Didn't our dear Jesus have meals with prostitutes? Didn't he save the same from a painful death, His only reprimand being a simple, "go and sin no more"? What type of an attitude are you encouraging your young people to have? Hate thy neighbor?

I can't even get past the stain on our pure theology long enough to even argue about the validity of the ridiculous statements that were made in this post. Our Father, made into flesh, died on a wooded stake to make your sins go away, and all you can think about is how a children's game makes you gay? I can assure you that Christ loves homosexuals just as much as He loves you, and he longs for them to repent and enter the kingdom. How is this reaching out to them? How is this fulfilling the call given to us in Mark 16:15? The Bible says in John 13:35 "By this shall all know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." How is this showing love? How is this showing anything at all, except for our sinful tendency to argue wholeheartedly with anyone that disagrees with us?

Honestly brothers and sisters, stop this now. Anyone who does their research can see that almost nothing was accurate in the original post to begin with, and everything that followed was simple Bible bashing. The Bible is so many wonderful things, but I can guarantee you it is not a baseball bat to beat unbelievers over the head with. Stop this.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: I'm here to judge you

And how did you come by this authority to order us around and to ignore the Bible?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I'm here to judge you

"Miss Anonymous" is a typical false Christian, cherry-picking whatever verses suit her current spin on Christ's intentions according to her.

Unsaved scum such as witches, joos, goths, queers, etc are hardly likely to be our neighbors. And the Bible tells us clearly in multiple verses NOT to associate with unsaved trash.

"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat." --1Corinthians 9:11

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11

What part of "unsaved=unwelcome" don't you understand?

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: I'm here to judge you

Oh dear, AnonymousGuest, you sure picked up on the trivial part of my post and ignored the meat. I counsel posters to learn proper grammar. We communicate by writing, and if one cannot write clearly then one's ability to communicate is hampered.

The Bible says God's saints will execute vengeance on the heathen. His prophets exhort the righteous, saying, Judge the bloody city! The Psalms command us to judge in righteousness. We are told not to associate with evildoers and unbelievers, for what communion hath light with darkness?

You believe in Little Meek Lamb Jesus. But that was not the hellfire preacher who called the pharisees serpents and vipers, and told them they were damned to Hell.

Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Matthew 23:33

The problem is, Anonymous, you have only absorbed 10% of what the Bible is really about. You have ignored 90% of the real teaching. Like many modern Christians you have remade Christ Jesus into the image of your own post-enlightenment liberal philosophy.

You might as well be a Unitarian.

The greatest teaching of the Bible is that there is ONE WAY to salvation, and that is through Christ Jesus. All other ways -- Buddhism, enlightened humanism, deism, neo-paganism -- all of them are paths to damnation and hellfire.

That is unequivocally, unalterably the truth of Scripture.

Implicit in that teaching -- and explicit throughout the Bible as well -- is the understanding that mankind is divided into two camps: the saved and the damned. The Christian and the heathen. The lovers of Christ's truth, and the followers of falsity. God's people, and the enemies of God.

What you are asking is that Christians pretend that the damned are as good and wise and moral as the saved; and that followers of falsity are worthy of the same respect and honor as those who are wise in God's truth. That is simply nonsense. It is contrary to fundamental tenets of God's Word.

Now, you can lie to yourself about the meaning of the Bible if you want. You can train yourself in false witness, bring your mind into conformance with the will of the devil, and put yourself in league with the enemies of God if you want. But don't expect everyone to go along with you.

Some of us will see through your falsity.

This is what a Christian man, a learned theologian and preacher, wrote about the Christian war between the two great camps of man, the saved and the damned:

Man cannot seek co-existence with evil without thereby declaring war against God. The law declares, speaking of Ammorites and Moabites, apparently in this case in their continued life in terms of their law-culture, Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days forever (Deut. 23:6, RV). A law-order cannot escape warfare: if it makes peace in one area, it thereby declares war against another....The fact of warfare remains constant: the object of warfare can change. The more total the peace desired, the more total the warfare required. The new creation of Jesus Christ is the end result of His total warfare against a fallen world; it requires the permanent suppression of evil in hell.

Peace with God means warfare with the enemies of God. Christ made clear that allegiance to Him meant a sword of division (Matt. 10:34-36). In a sinful world, some warfare is inescapable. A man must therefore pick his enemies: God or sinful man? If a man is at peace with sinful men, he is at war with God.

I have added bold text to make the point clear: you must either war against sinful men, OR YOU WILL BE AT WAR WITH GOD. That is a foundational tenet of Christianity. It is part of the 90% of Christianity which you -- in your liberal fog -- have utterly missed.

~~ OEJ

[AnonymousGuest]

Eph. 2
"And you [hath he quickened], who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus:
That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in [his] kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Wherefore remember, that ye [being] in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us];
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];
In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

Or didn't you remember that you too were once unsaved trash?

Honestly, I'm not going to keep this up. I could argue scripture with you all day, and it wouldn't change an ounce of your hardened heart. It is obvious that your theology isn't a complete theology. You are dwelling on the Old Testament laws, and not the New Testament fulfillment. As you can see in the passage above Christ "abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances;". You are saved by His grace, by His love. Who are you to deem the "unsaved" unwelcome? Who are you to judge man's heart? I'm sure you all know to "Judge not, that ye be not judged. (Mat. 7:1)" or Christ's words in John 12:47 "And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world."

This is an empty struggle as I know all that will come of it is more argument, and dissension, which I would like to avoid: "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; but [that] ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.. (1Cor 1:10)" But all the same, I truly hope you repent and see the error in a theology based on hatred. Please, take a moment to truly read your Bible with unveiled eyes. You will see that when Christ spoke to the Pharisees, he was speaking to His peers, Jews who had lost their way. Just as I now am speaking to a group of my supposed peers. I think you'll see that the majority of the Bible is filled with God's grace and mercy. I very much do believe in the God of judgment. And I believe that there will come a day when all sinners are cast down into the lake of fire. But that day is not today. In the mean time we are called to make disciples of all people. Including the most "reviled" unbelievers. The prostitutes and porn stars. The homosexuals. All of them. It is NOT your place to judge, thank God. It is HIS place, and He will judge all accordingly. That should be an unnerving thought to believer and unbeliever alike. Please, just take some time to review your theology without any influence but the Word of God. Any believer should do that on a regular basis if they truly fear and respect God.

Sincerely,
Mr. Anonymous

[Nobar King]

Re: I'm here to judge you

Something about prostitutes and porn stars?

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: I'm here to judge you

Anonymous, here is a great part of your folly: "You are dwelling on the Old Testament laws, and not the New Testament fulfillment."

God's laws are for all mankind, and all times.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

If there is a separate "fulfillment" that wipes away the Laws, then Jesus the Christ was a liar.

YOU can call Jesus a liar if you want. I am not going to go there.

God's laws are indeed for all mankind, for all times. I remind you, Corinthians is not a book of the Old Testament. Here is a solid theological explication of Paul's view on Christian dominion:

St. Paul, in reminding the Corinthian Christians of their destiny, said, "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?" (I Cor. 6:2)...Church government is a prelude to world government, not by the church but by "the saints." In trying to establish the necessary church government towards this end, Paul's constant appeal was, not to the form of church government or to the members, but to the law of God and the growth of the saints in terms of it (I Cor. 6:15-9:27). Judging, governing, or managing of the world is in terms of God's law.

Here is what Reverend Gary North writes about the Christian mandate to cut off error, to dis-enable false paths, and to end the heyday of the enemies of God:

So let us be blunt about it: we must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God.

So let ME be blunt about it: this is what real Christianity is all about. It is told in Revelation (again, not an Old Testament book) that Christ shall come again and mankind shall be divided as a shepherd divides the sheep from the goats. Christians shall be saved, all others shall be damned.

THAT is a core teaching of the Bible, Anonymous: all mankind is not equal. There is no neutral law, no neutral education: there is no neutrality. Christians, if they are true to their faith, must deny the religious liberty of the enemies of God.

The Bible -- the real Bible and not the egalitarian-humanist one that some christians so-called think is their Book -- THE BIBLE stands firm on the idea of the superiority of the saved, the chosen, those who have the Truth.

More theological writing:

Israel was attacked by Amalek. According to Deuteronomy 25:17, Amalek "feared not God." Amalek's attack on Israel, according to the "Midrashic lore," was an obscene defiance of God and a contempt for God. Where men attack God's people, there we often have a covert or overt attack on God. Unable to strike directly at God, they strike at God's people. There is thus continual warfare between Amalek and Israel, between God's people and God's enemies. The outcome must be the blotting out of God's enemies.

When atheists attack Christian teachings, the outcome must be the blotting out of God's enemies. When unbelievers seek power over Christians, the outcome must be the blotting out of God's enemies. When secularists claim that the state cannot support God's people and faith in God, the outcome must be the blotting out of God's enemies.

This is the battle now joined between Christians in America and the false values of secularism, religious freedom, and multiculturalism. This is the battle to bring America to Christ. This is the battle to bring America's laws into conformance with God's Laws. Many oppose Christians in this mighty work. Many attack God's people. There can only be one outcome. The outcome must be the blotting out of God's enemies.

That is what it means to be Christian, whether you are massacring the Albigensians in the 13th century or fighting Darwinism in the 21st.

~~ OEJ

[WickedWitch]

Re: I'm here to judge you

Argh. "Your" is possessive: your chickens are running away. "You're" is a contraction of "you" and "are": you're a bunch of hypocritical mollusks.

I do wish new posters could master the rudiments of 5th-grade English.


Sheesh. Derned newbies, sophisticated as caterpillars and intelligent as sandstone.

~~ OEJ

When was the last time I swooned over you? In the name of all that is Grammatically Correct, I do declare that I truly love you, OEJ. *Licks your face* *Swoons*

[AnonymousGuest]

Okay, so I've gone from infuriated to confused. I've read now in multiple places, including the Wikipedia (although I definitely don't consider that a fully reputable website) that the Landover Baptist Church is a hoax. That all of you are in some big sarcastic scheme against everyone. Freehold Iowa doesn't exist, and according to your own theology, men aren't allowed to have beards, and yet the majority of you that I've seen (if the photographs are correct) are bearded. Besides that, the practices you claim to have are mostly illegal, and I doubt you would really have such a large police force behind you. After learning more about your "beliefs" either I am disturbed that people like you really exist, or I'm slightly offended that I've been so thoroughly "had" by your big joke.

Either way, good job. You've effectively ticked me off.

[Wide-Open]

Re: I'm here to judge you

Friend, you have been had. Wickedpedia is run by atheists. This is the page about us before they butchered it in order to mock us.

You may not share our beliefs, but you can be assured that we are as real as the Fires from Hell.

So you can go back to being furious now.