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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    Why is it ok for the person who wrote the sermon to talk about the KJO view; while it's not ok for someone who also has questions regarding to KJO view to talk about it.
    Why do you think it is not OK to talk about it? It seems to me this is what we are doing right now!

    The POWER OF GOD is present when the KJV is preached faithfully, no doubt. I simply believe that the POWER OF GOD is present also when other translations of the KJV are preached.
    I suppose it can be, depending on how close the preaching happens to be to the only true word of God, the KJV1611 Holy Bible. But why take the hard road when you can the the easy one by just using the source, the KJV1611 Holy Bible.

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  • Robert Jones
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Sorry I did respond to your
    Yes, True Christians™ go to Heaven and idiots go to hell. What is your point?
    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    What is the difference? To those who are saved it is the POWER OF GOD!!!!

    The POWER of GOD is there when the Gospel is preached using the KJV and other times it is not (Sometimes we see visible results, somtimes not). Anyone with a 5th grade understanding of what we are discussing knows that it is GOD that gives the increase!

    The POWER OF GOD is present when the KJV is preached faithfully, no doubt. I simply believe that the POWER OF GOD is present also when other translations of the KJV are preached.

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  • Robert Jones
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
    What exactly do you want a response to?
    Why is it ok for the person who wrote the sermon to talk about the KJO view; while it's not ok for someone who also has questions regarding to KJO view to talk about it.

    Yes, True Christians™ go to Heaven and idiots go to hell. What is your point?
    What is the difference? To those who are saved it is the POWER OF GOD!!!!

    The POWER of GOD is there when the Gospel is preached using the KJV and other times it is not (Sometimes we see visible results, somtimes not). Anyone with a 5th grade understanding of what we are discussing knows that it is GOD that gives the increase!

    The POWER OF GOD is present when the KJV is preached faithfully, no doubt. I simply believe that the POWER OF GOD is present also when other translations of the KJV are preached.
    Last edited by Robert Jones; 04-08-2010, 09:05 PM. Reason: Didn't want to double post

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    Some receive it with gladness while others reject and remain in their sin. We can all agree with this, can we not?
    Yes, True Christians(tm) go to Heaven and idiots go to hell. What is your point?

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  • Robert Jones
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
    I told one of my gardeners to mend my computer. He said he knew nothing about computers. I told him that if he wanted to keep his job, he'd mend it.

    He said, "Have you got a Manual?" (which is funny because his name is Manual)

    The lesson here is that without KJV1611, you'll never mend your life and you'll never get to heaven.

    Let's just assume for a minute that the Gospel message is preached from the KJV (thus meeting the "Incorruptible Seed" argument).

    Some receive it with gladness while others reject and remain in their sin. We can all agree with this, can we not?

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    I've already talked about that sermon. No one cared to respond to what I said. Perhaps you would like to?
    What exactly do you want a response to?

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  • Robert Jones
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    No, I read the sermon. I've also seen the sermon before. On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:34:05 AM, http://www.kjv1611.org.uk/Seven%20Easy%20Ways.htm was posted, written by Will Kinney. I suppose Pastor Ezekiel could indeed by Will Kinney; however, why would he wait another nearly another seven months to post his sermon on this forum? If you check both are word for word including "Thank you for your time and attention. May God give you the grace and humility to come to the correct verdict and the only correct version. Through the electing grace of God, washed in the blood of the Lamb."
    I've already talked about that sermon. No one cared to respond to what I said. Perhaps you would like to?

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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    I'm not saying that you should change anything. I just don't see how you can say that no one can be saved without the KJV1611 Bible.
    I told one of my gardeners to mend my computer. He said he knew nothing about computers. I told him that if he wanted to keep his job, he'd mend it.

    He said, "Have you got a Manual?" (which is funny because his name is Manual)

    The lesson here is that without KJV1611, you'll never mend your life and you'll never get to heaven.

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    If you use that, aren't other translations of the KJV also scripture?
    No: Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

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  • Robert Jones
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
    That's because you are an idiot. The Holy Bible is very clear on this matter: 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
    If you use that, aren't other translations of the KJV also scripture?

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  • Robert Jones
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
    Why does this demon keep returning try to scatter the sheep of our flock
    God=Life says "If you articulate your thoughts intelligently, people won't call you a retard," I'm assuming he's talking about this forum as well. But you will call me a demon?

    Why? How am I trying to "scatter the sheep" of your flock?

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    I'm not saying that you should change anything. I just don't see how you can say that no one can be saved without the KJV1611 Bible.
    That's because you are an idiot. The Holy Bible is very clear on this matter: 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

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  • Meek and Humble
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Why does this demon keep returning try to scatter the sheep of our flock

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  • Robert Jones
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
    I see. In that case, what is your solution? What are we to do?

    It's one thing to criticize, but an entirely different matter to come up with a solution.

    Perhaps we should make our own translation. We are so incredibly arrogant that we believe we can do better.

    Perhaps we should pick and choose which translation best fits our preconceived notions. I happen to be fluent in most translations of the Bible, but asking your congregationalists to memorize and be fluent in many seems a bit inconsiderate and taxing to them.

    How about we preachers learn Greek and Hebrew? Maybe we can be the only ones to read the Word. Perhaps we can plunge ourselves back into the Dark Ages?

    Why do you hate literacy and knowledge of the Bible?
    I'm not saying that you should change anything. I just don't see how you can say that no one can be saved without the KJV1611 Bible.

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  • Levi Jones
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    Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

    Originally posted by Latvija13 View Post
    I've never once said that the KJV1611 is not the "most correct" English version of the Bible. I've simply pointed out that many biblical scholars have found translation errors within the text. I'm sure you know very well that the KJV has changed since the 1611 version, but I don't believe that is relevant because LBC is faithful to the 1611 version. Mind you, of the two that were published in 1611, I haven't found which one you're faithful to. I have noticed that LBC uses the newer publications of the KJV fairly liberally when quoting scripture. Apparently the spelling from 1611 doesn't quite register with everyone. To directly answer your question. I do believe that the KJV is the most correct English version of the Bible, but I think there is significant evidence to prove that it's not completely infallible.

    I see. In that case, what is your solution? What are we to do?

    It's one thing to criticize, but an entirely different matter to come up with a solution.

    Perhaps we should make our own translation. We are so incredibly arrogant that we believe we can do better.

    Perhaps we should pick and choose which translation best fits our preconceived notions. I happen to be fluent in most translations of the Bible, but asking your congregationalists to memorize and be fluent in many seems a bit inconsiderate and taxing to them.

    How about we preachers learn Greek and Hebrew? Maybe we can be the only ones to read the Word. Perhaps we can plunge ourselves back into the Dark Ages?

    Why do you hate literacy and knowledge of the Bible?

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