[Meek and Humble]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

Yes, they did settle the matter. But they also had a disagreement on a matter of faith. Also, I am not sowing discord, there is a difference between discord and attempting to show the truth.

Jesus is the only Truth we need around here

[Robert Jones]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

Yes, and they settled the matter. Why are you trying to sow discord? Why do you hate Christians so much?

Yes, they did settle the matter. But they also had a disagreement on a matter of faith. Also, I am not sowing discord, there is a difference between discord and attempting to show the truth.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

I'm talking about the Council at Jerusalem in Acts 15.

Yes, and they settled the matter. Why are you trying to sow discord? Why do you hate Christians so much?

[Robert Jones]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

What makes you think that? They never strayed from Biblical Law, so they were True Christians™. It's as simple as that.



I am sorry, friend, but you are talking about the catholic church now, which held councils to decide the demonic Apocryphal Books were included in their bible. We aren't catholics. We have never used a "council" in order to to agree on Biblical Law. We use the Bible for that.

I'm talking about the Council at Jerusalem in Acts 15.

[True Disciple]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

I'm accused of twisting the word of God for my own gain, but I only write with humility and honesty. I feel as though if any of the Christians of the past who stood up for something they felt was mistaken in belief of that time, that members of LBC would write them off as heretics and burn them at the stake.

What makes you think that? They never strayed from Biblical Law, so they were True Christians(tm). It's as simple as that.

The Christian church was shaped by people who didn't always agree on everything within the Bible, the reasons for the early councils were to come to agreements on issues that were not agreed upon.

I am sorry, friend, but you are talking about the catholic church now, which held councils to decide the demonic Apocryphal Books were included in their bible. We aren't catholics. We have never used a "council" in order to to agree on Biblical Law. We use the Bible for that.

[Robert Jones]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

I am sure that he did not read the entire sermon either. If he saw your reply which referenced your sermon immediately upon you posting it he would have had to:
- read your reply
- read your sermon
- post back his response in 26 minutes total


If one is a skimmer then by all means it could be read that quickly but if one has doubts and contradicting ideas (such as Latvija13 obviously does) then there is no way that one could read, ponder and digest the sermon in such a carefree, nonchalant fashion.

No, I read the sermon. I've also seen the sermon before. On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:34:05 AM, http://www.kjv1611.org.uk/Seven%20Easy%20Ways.htm was posted, written by Will Kinney. I suppose Pastor Ezekiel could indeed by Will Kinney; however, why would he wait another nearly another seven months to post his sermon on this forum? If you check both are word for word including "Thank you for your time and attention. May God give you the grace and humility to come to the correct verdict and the only correct version. Through the electing grace of God, washed in the blood of the Lamb."

One thing that is without question: you, Latvija13, are not honest and you are of the belief that the word of the Lord is up for debate. When you look in the mirror do you see little horns sprouting out from beneath your unkempt mullet? I believe that you are a follower of the devil!

I am most certainly honest in what I say. I am not doubting the Lord, I use scriptural support for all of the evidence I've brought forth in this post. I'm accused of twisting the word of God for my own gain, but I only write with humility and honesty. I feel as though if any of the Christians of the past who stood up for something they felt was mistaken in belief of that time, that members of LBC would write them off as heretics and burn them at the stake. The Christian church was shaped by people who didn't always agree on everything within the Bible, the reasons for the early councils were to come to agreements on issues that were not agreed upon. But here, if someone contradicts essentially anything you hold to be true it automatically makes them a "follower of the devil."

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

I do not lie.

That is a lie.

[humble servant]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

There is no debate on this subject.

And I'm certain that you did not read the entire sermon. God hates a liar.

I am sure that he did not read the entire sermon either. If he saw your reply which referenced your sermon immediately upon you posting it he would have had to:
- read your reply
- read your sermon
- post back his response in 26 minutes total

If one is a skimmer then by all means it could be read that quickly but if one has doubts and contradicting ideas (such as Latvija13 obviously does) then there is no way that one could read, ponder and digest the sermon in such a carefree, nonchalant fashion.

One thing that is without question: you, Latvija13, are not honest and you are of the belief that the word of the Lord is up for debate. When you look in the mirror do you see little horns sprouting out from beneath your unkempt mullet? I believe that you are a follower of the devil!

[True Disciple]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

Since God wants His message to reach as many ears as possible, why would He not use as many versions of the Bible as possible to reach as many people as possible? Why does there have to be only one correct version.

Easy. There is only one Message. You can't make multiple versions with an identical Message, because to achieve that, you would need to make those versions identical (every difference means a departure from the True Message), in which case they wouldn't be different versions anymore.

This is why only one version can be True. And logically, this would be the one that has reached the most ears, the KJV. It has reached more ears than the original manuscripts, so they aren't True Versions either.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

I do not lie. A True Christian cannot sin. Lying is a sin. But, does the name Will Kinney ring any bells?

You are not a True Christian(tm). Anything you have to say is suspect.

Matthew 12:30:
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

[Robert Jones]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

There is no debate on this subject.

And I'm certain that you did not read the entire sermon. God hates a liar.

I do not lie. A True Christian cannot sin. Lying is a sin. But, does the name Will Kinney ring any bells?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

I read your sermon. It's very enlightening. I've included a link to a website dedicated to the kjvo debate. I don't see how you could see this site as evil as Will Kinney (maybe the name sounds familiar) frequents the discussion.

http://kjvodebate.wordpress.com/

There is no debate on this subject.

And I'm certain that you did not read the entire sermon. God hates a liar.

[Robert Jones]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

Please read my sermon on the subject of how we can tell which Bible is the One True Word of God HERE.

I am certain that it will open your eyes to the Truth®.

I read your sermon. It's very enlightening. I've included a link to a website dedicated to the kjvo debate. I don't see how you could see this site as evil as Will Kinney (maybe the name sounds familiar) frequents the discussion.

http://kjvodebate.wordpress.com/

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

I've never once said that the KJV1611 is not the "most correct" English version of the Bible. I've simply pointed out that many biblical scholars have found translation errors within the text. I'm sure you know very well that the KJV has changed since the 1611 version, but I don't believe that is relevant because LBC is faithful to the 1611 version. Mind you, of the two that were published in 1611, I haven't found which one you're faithful to. I have noticed that LBC uses the newer publications of the KJV fairly liberally when quoting scripture. Apparently the spelling from 1611 doesn't quite register with everyone. To directly answer your question. I do believe that the KJV is the most correct English version of the Bible, but I think there is significant evidence to prove that it's not completely infallible.



Thank you for not immediately condemning me as someone who loves Satan without cause. As a fellow brother, I'm simply seeking understanding of points I find troubling.

I don't understand what you mean. Are you suggesting that the words that were originally inspired by God are not infallible? This seems like a contradiction to the word of God himself.


I agree with this. God did inspire the authors of the Bible to write what they wrote. However, the original Bible was not the KJV1611. It came over many years after the completion of the New Testament. Are you suggesting that God's True Message™ did not exist until 1611? Are you suggesting that there were no True Christians until after the KJV was translated into English?

Since God wants His message to reach as many ears as possible, why would He not use as many versions of the Bible as possible to reach as many people as possible? Why does there have to be only one correct version. The Bible is Holy, but the Bible is not in itself God. I'm seeking understanding. I'm not trying to offend anyone or be an enemy of God. I'm just seeking the truth.

Please read my sermon on the subject of how we can tell which Bible is the One True Word of God HERE.

I am certain that it will open your eyes to the Truth(r).

[Meek and Humble]

Re: I like this one, but I'm not sure i have it right.

I've never once said that the KJV1611 is not the "most correct" English version of the Bible. I've simply pointed out that many biblical scholars have found translation errors within the text. I'm sure you know very well that the KJV has changed since the 1611 version, but I don't believe that is relevant because LBC is faithful to the 1611 version. Mind you, of the two that were published in 1611, I haven't found which one you're faithful to. I have noticed that LBC uses the newer publications of the KJV fairly liberally when quoting scripture. Apparently the spelling from 1611 doesn't quite register with everyone. To directly answer your question. I do believe that the KJV is the most correct English version of the Bible, but I think there is significant evidence to prove that it's not completely infallible.

You keep saying there is "significant evidence" and yet you produce none. You are just here to cause discord and stir up trouble with innocent souls in order to damn them to hell. The KJV1611 is perfect, and every other English translation was directed by Satan himself, and contains contradiction and blasphemy! Why do you want to lead people away from the truth?