[Lisa H]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

HAHAHAHA!!!!

EVERYBODY was part of the Catholic church until the reformation in the 16th century!!!!!

Sorry, but there were no baptists back then!!!!

You still trying to flog off your homer bible.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

Of course not! Except for the Catholics--they've always been lost.

Quoted for the TRUTH Brother. Anyone who tries to base their entire religion on enabling elderly transvestites in preying upon innocent children deserves damnation and is beyond God's forgiveness. Even the Satanist recoil in moral outrage at this.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

So were the people who though themselves good Christians during the "lost" period damned to Hell?

Of course not! Except for the Catholics--they've always been lost.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

Christianity depends not only on Divine inspiration of Scripture, but also on Divine preservation of Scripture. God has promised to preserve His Word:

Psalm 12:6-7: The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Isaiah 40:8: The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matt. 24:35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Therefore, one of the following must be true:

1. God has preserved His Word.
2. God has reneged on His promise to preserve His Word.
3. The Bible was never God's Word to begin with.
4. There is no God.

If you believe any of 2-4, then in what sense are you a Christian?

We also need to consider the implications for salvation if there were no preserved Bible:

Matt. 4:4: But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Matt. 7:21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

If we did not have an accurate record of God's words as they proceeded out of His mouth, and in particular of His will, salvation would be impossible.

[landoverlover]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

Going back to the original topic, I really can't understand this obsession some Christians have with the KJV. Translation methods have improved greatly since the 17th century, and I think God would like the Bible to be as meaningful and up-to-date as possible.

The NIV and the Good News Bible are excellent translations, but nothing quite beats the beautiful poetry contained in Eugene Peterson's 'The Message'.

If the KJV1611 was good enough for Jesus it's good enough for me.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

So, you're saying that, since it is the Word of God, man cannot corrupt it, and never write a false Bible, or what.. In that case seems you are saying that ALL Bibles are valid, because God wrote them, and not man. I know that isn't what you're saying so could you explain it in more detail, as I am struggling to make out the meaning.

Thank you,

sas

Literally the Devil is in the details here.

The argument for the NIV is it is based on copies of The Bible that were "lost" and then "rediscovered" while the KJV1611 is translated from The Bible that has been in common usage. Can you see what is wrong with that reasoning? The Word of God "lost" to man. So were the people who though themselves good Christians during the "lost" period damned to Hell? This all centers around man being able to mess up what God wants.

As a mater of faith Christians believe

• God is all powerful
• God is all knowing
• God is perfect
• God is active in The World
• God knows the future.
• While man has free will, man can no alter God's plan.
• The Bible is God's message to The World.

Now can you see how man completely eliminating parts of God message for any period of time is quite unacceptable to Christianity? Remember Satan doesn't have the power of God. While Satan can lie to us he can't stop God.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

The reason I came here was because a friend sent me a link which had the reasons why me and my country was going to Hell in a handbasket, which I took exception to, and joined up so I could counter that or at least give you a run for the money. I for one don't allow myself to be brought down that easily. I don't let other people take cheap shots. So that was why I first came here.

Were you surprised when you came to this board and saw how rational and cogent all of our arguments were, how abundant our evidence was, and how factual all of our premises were? I'll bet that was a shocker for someone as closed minded as you, huh.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

Going back to the original topic, I really can't understand this obsession some Christians have with the KJV. Translation methods have improved greatly since the 17th century, and I think God would like the Bible to be as meaningful and up-to-date as possible.

The NIV and the Good News Bible are excellent translations, but nothing quite beats the beautiful poetry contained in Eugene Peterson's 'The Message'.

You couldn't be more wrong. You false Christians really burn my britches, and you infuriate Jesus when you blaspheme like that. Read my sermon and THEN make this argument. I double-dog-dare you.

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

Again; if man can twist The World of God then how can God be God?

The technically accuracy of one translation over another is useless if God doesn't exist. At that point The Bible stops being a moral guide and becomes a historical curiosity.

So, you're saying that, since it is the Word of God, man cannot corrupt it, and never write a false Bible, or what.. In that case seems you are saying that ALL Bibles are valid, because God wrote them, and not man. I know that isn't what you're saying so could you explain it in more detail, as I am struggling to make out the meaning.

Thank you,

sas

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

The KJV is not the only valid version of the Bible.
A group of clerics during the reign of King James (a purported homosexual, by the way) wished to gain favor with the court, so they named the translation of the Bible they were working on after him - nothing like stroking the royal ego to get you favors from the king.

Again; if man can twist The World of God then how can God be God?

The technically accuracy of one translation over another is useless if God doesn't exist. At that point The Bible stops being a moral guide and becomes a historical curiosity.

[Tchoupitoulas]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

The KJV is not the only valid version of the Bible.
A group of clerics during the reign of King James (a purported homosexual, by the way) wished to gain favor with the court, so they named the translation of the Bible they were working on after him - nothing like stroking the royal ego to get you favors from the king.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

Going back to the original topic, I really can't understand this obsession some Christians have with the KJV. Translation methods have improved greatly since the 17th century, and I think God would like the Bible to be as meaningful and up-to-date as possible.

The NIV and the Good News Bible are excellent translations, but nothing quite beats the beautiful poetry contained in Eugene Peterson's 'The Message'.

If the Bible can be mistranslated it basically means God doesn't exist friend as Christians understand Him. You can't have the incompetence of a mortal agent thwarting the will God and then claim God is all powerful and perfect.

[Lisa H]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

Going back to the original topic, I really can't understand this obsession some Christians have with the KJV. Translation methods have improved greatly since the 17th century, and I think God would like the Bible to be as meaningful and up-to-date as possible.

The NIV and the Good News Bible are excellent translations, but nothing quite beats the beautiful poetry contained in Eugene Peterson's 'The Message'.

Next thing you would want to have the King James Bible written in cellphone test.

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

So you were banned over there for seeing things that weren't there and butting your nose in where it didn't belong.

How did you know the woman was a lesbian? Haven't you told the women on here that they should be more like feminists?

Lazy individuals? You said just this evening that people with ambition are gay? So if they lost the weight, would you then turned around and said they were gay?

As for a woman being stalked through the PM system, the only people who would know this, would be the woman being stalked, the stalker and moderators. Well since we know you weren't a moderator, and you're not a woman, that only leaves one person in the scenario you could of possibly been. And after the way you've acted towards people on this board, I wouldn't be surprised.

As for saving your soul, if you had shown up and asked, we would of helped you. Instead you showed up, called all the men gay or perverts (or both) and hit on all the women. You post papist propaganda, even in this very thread. You are on a very, very wrong path. The only way of saving your soul is for you to pick up a KJV 1611 Bible and start reading it. Then and only then could you even consider saving your soul. Well that and stop with the papist crap.

No actually she said very clearly that she liked to be the boss around the house, and tell her husband what to do, and have him be the compliant one.

I HAVEN'T told the women on here, nor would I ANYWHERE, that they should be more like feminists. I think women should be more HAPPY. I am not sure you support that, I hope so but frankly am not sure.. So I'm asking! Hope giving you the benefit of the doubt is good enough...

I don't know about the sports thing, it's weird I grew up with it being very important to be sporty for the girls to be interested in you I am not sure how it all fits together, I bought some American magazines called 'Muscle and Fitness', which gave me the idea that was the way to go. What with seemed popular in the movies and among girls I figure that's the way to go.. but it seems to be well complicated, it's own little slice of hell but I'm guessing that's just me, I don't know.

http://www.muscleandfitness.com/

The reason I knew about that was because I'd been having private conversations with the woman, she was forty-three I think and very nice, so I PM'ed her and we ended up talking about all sorts of things, pertaining to God and some things I guess well though I never stood a chance, not so Godly, anyway she kept talking about this other forum member, over and over, over and over, so one day I finally PM him and ask him about his side of the story, and he says she's been stalking him and shows me some stuff she sent him, and then I try and say to her that she has to stop it, she sends that to the moderators and bam I am banned for interfering in other people's lives, when I tried to set something right. What is more, I lost the best spiritual mother I've ever had, Mother Carol, who I still remember so fondly, she was and is just amazing, even if she is only a 'Catlyk' to you, don't get me started on that you ..

The reason I showed up here was because of the God Hates threads that are posted here, which are being ping-ponged around the world for people's amusement, and I happened to get one of those forwarded links, the I learnt about BibleThumpinBlonde (yes that was a bit wrong, I acknowledge that, again, looking at her for the sake of appearances..) was married to an old guy when she was fourteen, and has a son with him (all I can say is eww though the son isn't to blame) and Reverent Osmond at sixty-plus marrying a twenty-year old, still more a teen than adult in mind, that's my take. So I figured since a Pastor was allowed to do that, what would have been considered a BLEMISH on our good standing over here, and that a beautiful spirited girl like BibleThumpinBlonde was married to an old (fart) sorry but that's how it looked that you were all like that, and HTannor showed interest in a twenty-three-year-old when he is clearly like fifty or sixty, so what was I supposed to think huh? Asking some more around clarified that misunderstanding, which I'm glad I did or I would never have known, because you sure aren't quick to post the normal stuff around here, if I can say that much.. Yeah I mean that..

Regards.

sas

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Why is the King James Bible the correct one?

So you were banned over there for seeing things that weren't there and butting your nose in where it didn't belong.

How did you know the woman was a lesbian? Haven't you told the women on here that they should be more like feminists?

Lazy individuals? You said just this evening that people with ambition are gay? So if they lost the weight, would you then turned around and said they were gay?

As for a woman being stalked through the PM system, the only people who would know this, would be the woman being stalked, the stalker and moderators. Well since we know you weren't a moderator, and you're not a woman, that only leaves one person in the scenario you could of possibly been. And after the way you've acted towards people on this board, I wouldn't be surprised.

As for saving your soul, if you had shown up and asked, we would of helped you. Instead you showed up, called all the men gay or perverts (or both) and hit on all the women. You post papist propaganda, even in this very thread. You are on a very, very wrong path. The only way of saving your soul is for you to pick up a KJV 1611 Bible and start reading it. Then and only then could you even consider saving your soul. Well that and stop with the papist crap.