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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Everything you ever wanted to know about ECONOMICS!

    Originally posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Since when does superiority equal happiness? I wouldn't get much happiness out of being an arrogant douchebag with a big house and fancy car.
    Worshiping Jesus is the only path to true happiness. He shows us the way(c).

    Proverbs 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

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  • Bobby-Joe
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    Re: Everything you ever wanted to know about ECONOMICS!

    Originally posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Since when does superiority equal happiness? I wouldn't get much happiness out of being an arrogant douchebag with a big house and fancy car.
    I wouldn't ether friend. That is why I have a big house, three SUVs and a vacation home. The only way I can be happy is drive to Des Moinse and go around a look at the foreclose signs and the vacant store fronts. Then I realize how much better I am than those losers. That is TRUE Happiness(r).

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  • WilliamJenningsBryan
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    Re: Swapping of property

    Originally posted by narrowpathy View Post
    I actually wanted to ask a question about women, or more precisely wives, but your post made me wonder,
    say, I like Roberta's bicycle (just for the sake of argument, I doubt she has one and I prefer to drive or walk). I get on the bike and I ride away. If somebody asks me why I took her bike, I reply that it was not hers, but God's as all things are God's.
    So, what's wrong with this argument of mine?

    This really is not a difficult question. While the bicycle is God's, He gave it to "Roberta", not you - in that sense you "stole" the bicycle and it is not "yours". Often times we can understand things better by changing our ways of thinking about them. While in our ordinary transactions we commonly think that we can buy and "own" beer, in the grand scheme of things we more likely rent it.

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  • JennyD
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    Re: Everything you ever wanted to know about ECONOMICS!

    Originally posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Since when does superiority equal happiness? I wouldn't get much happiness out of being an arrogant douchebag with a big house and fancy car.
    I take it this means that you do not have a big house or a fancy car.

    Well, one out of three ain't bad, Elizabeth. Maybe you will find that you're happy when you achieve the other two. However, we prefer to find our joy in the Lord.

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  • Ugly_Kid_Joe
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    Re: Everything you ever wanted to know about ECONOMICS!

    Originally posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Since when does superiority equal happiness? I wouldn't get much happiness out of being an arrogant douchebag with a big house and fancy car.
    Moving to Africa may be something good for you then!

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  • Elizabeth
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    Re: Everything you ever wanted to know about ECONOMICS!

    Since when does superiority equal happiness? I wouldn't get much happiness out of being an arrogant douchebag with a big house and fancy car.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Everything you ever wanted to know about ECONOMICS!

    Even a child can understand the utter futility of Obama's hare-brained schemes.

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  • narrowpathy
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    Re: Swapping of property

    Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
    Strange questions and without any pre-amble, nevertheless, my first thoughts are:

    There's a lot of "taking from" and "giving to" in the Bible often for services or obedience rendered. This can be described as "swapping property." You have the ability to sacrifice a goat, God has the power to send plagues on your enemy in return.

    The question of property should not be confused with either possession or ownership.

    Property stands on its own and is anything that is capable of being owned and this includes knowledge.

    Possession is answered by "Who has it at the moment?" Clearly there are lists of things all through the Bible that people possessed.

    Ownership is answered by, "Is there anyone who could legitimately say, 'That is mine.'?"

    As God made Heaven and earth and all that is in it, they are all His.

    Dominion is the capability to act and issue authoritative and legitimate instructions as to the disposal of, and/or conduct with, property.

    God gave man dominion over most of the things on the earth:

    Ge:1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    Ge:1:28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    There is, unless we take replenish the earth, and subdue it: as authority,as far as I can see, a lack of dominion over vegetation but as Noah used wood to make the Ark, and bread features heavily, one assumes that God does not mind this.

    Why do you ask?
    I actually wanted to ask a question about women, or more precisely wives, but your post made me wonder,
    say, I like Roberta's bicycle (just for the sake of argument, I doubt she has one and I prefer to drive or walk). I get on the bike and I ride away. If somebody asks me why I took her bike, I reply that it was not hers, but God's as all things are God's.
    So, what's wrong with this argument of mine?

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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Re: Swapping of property

    Originally posted by narrowpathy View Post
    Is swapping of property ok, Bible-wise? Also, what is property?
    Strange questions and without any pre-amble, nevertheless, my first thoughts are:

    There's a lot of "taking from" and "giving to" in the Bible often for services or obedience rendered. This can be described as "swapping property." You have the ability to sacrifice a goat, God has the power to send plagues on your enemy in return.

    The question of property should not be confused with either possession or ownership.

    Property stands on its own and is anything that is capable of being owned and this includes knowledge.

    Possession is answered by "Who has it at the moment?" Clearly there are lists of things all through the Bible that people possessed.

    Ownership is answered by, "Is there anyone who could legitimately say, 'That is mine.'?"

    As God made Heaven and earth and all that is in it, they are all His.

    Dominion is the capability to act and issue authoritative and legitimate instructions as to the disposal of, and/or conduct with, property.

    God gave man dominion over most of the things on the earth:

    Ge:1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    Ge:1:28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    There is, unless we take replenish the earth, and subdue it: as authority,as far as I can see, a lack of dominion over vegetation but as Noah used wood to make the Ark, and bread features heavily, one assumes that God does not mind this.

    Why do you ask?

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  • Bro Izzy
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    Re: Swapping of property

    Originally posted by narrowpathy View Post
    Also, what is property?
    Property could be various things, Your home, car, wife etc.
    I don't know of any religious objections to swapping material objects but the wife part wouldn't go down well.
    I mean who would want to swap a 200lbs 1964 model for a 90lbs 1990 model ?

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  • narrowpathy
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    Re: Swapping of property

    Also, what is property?

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  • narrowpathy
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    Swapping of property

    Is swapping of property ok, Bible-wise?

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  • Bobby-Joe
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    Re: ECONOMICS 101

    I agree with Brother Larry Lee on this Jeb; your' articles take a wide stance on this subject that just about covers money. You make an excellent point that happiness doesn’t happen unless it comes at the expense of as many people as possible.

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  • Jeb Stuart Thurmond
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    Re: ECONOMICS 101

    Questions on Tithing:

    What does "Tithe" mean?

    I highly recommend this article: How much should I tithe?

    Where do payments of money go and what are they spent on?

    The IRS says everything we do is charity. End of story.

    How can people afford to live if they give most of their income away?

    God provides. HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE GENEROSITY OF GOD!

    Matthew 6:34 Take no thought for the morrow."

    Matthew 6.25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on.
    Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?


    But I'm what if I'm poor?

    Jesus expects you to tithe 100%:

    Mark 12:41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
    42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
    43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
    44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living

    Jesus says you should give everything: EVERYTHING, even your own family:

    Matthew 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

    What happens if I don't have the money and never will?

    Take out loans and apply for credit cards. The rapture will take you to heaven before you have to pay anything back. Just take a look at the news: disasters, wars, signs all over the place. Clearly we are living in the end times. Keep one credit card to buy food. Send the rest to LBC.

    Remember, you can also give with services rather than cash, becoming a missionary is the best way to do this. For example, our Iraq mission is constantly asking for more missionaires due to high turnover.

    Okay, I'll give all I have, but why do you have to be so pushy?

    Because it's not your money in the first place, it belongs to God:

    Psalm 24:1 The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

    Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.

    What happens if I don't tithe?

    You are a criminal, and will be treated like one:

    Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
    Last edited by Jeb Stuart Thurmond; 12-10-2007, 09:26 PM.

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  • Larry Lee
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    Re: ECONOMICS 101

    Wow, Jeb, your analysis is as jam-packed with wisdom as Isaiah. Is the take-home lesson that Bill Gates should be wearing a handcrafted clay lip plate?

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