[epignosis]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

You're a Jehovah Witless aren't you.

Yes

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

You do know, what this is talking about, don't you?
There is no place of Hell! There is no torture, there is no life after death. The only hope mankind has is God's resurrection of us.

You're a Jehovah Witless aren't you.

[epignosis]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

Mr. Epignosis,

Just because their soul and body dies doesn't mean that they won't burn forever in Hell!

There's only one thing that lives forever in a sinner; their worm. Their worm will never die in Hell; from that worm they will be reborn again and again, to suffer their eternal torture as good wills, to gnash their teeth and feel their flesh melt off their bones until only the worm remains, the worm that dieth not, a meaty seed from which they shall spring again to be tortured anew!

How do I know? Because the Bible tells me so three times in the Book of Mark 9:44-48!

Thanks for finishing this debate LORD! Your Good Book always has the answer, Amen!

You do know, what this is talking about, don't you?
There is no place of Hell! There is no torture, there is no life after death. The only hope mankind has is God's resurrection of us.

[Cursed]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

Mr. Epignosis,

Just because their soul and body dies doesn't mean that they won't burn forever in Hell!

There's only one thing that lives forever in a sinner; their worm. Their worm will never die in Hell; from that worm they will be reborn again and again, to suffer their eternal torture as good wills, to gnash their teeth and feel their flesh melt off their bones until only the worm remains, the worm that dieth not, a meaty seed from which they shall spring again to be tortured anew!

How do I know? Because the Bible tells me so three times in the Book of Mark 9:44-48!

Thanks for finishing this debate LORD! Your Good Book always has the answer, Amen!

[epignosis]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

Example #5

As a false witness will contradict himself, so too will a false bible.

There must be many many religious doctrines that contradict the bible. Otherwise there would only be one Christian religion. When Jesus was on the earth there was only one way.
I will give an example:
Many people that believe in immortality of the soul, actually contradict what the bible says.

Ezekiel 18:4 (King James Version)
4Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Genesis 2:7 (King James Version)
7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Man became a living soul, he was not given a soul ( as something extra). Adam and Eve were intended to live forever, thus they would not need a soul to live on after they died, death was never the intention for man. They were to live forever, as humans on this earth. But the possibility that if man sinned he would die. Death is the end of life.

Genesis 3:19 (King James Version)
19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Ecclesiastes 9:10 (King James Version)
10Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 (King James Version)
5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward;
for the memory of them is forgotten.

Psalm 146:4 (King James Version)
4His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

Ezekiel 18:4 (King James Version)
4Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Isaiah 53:12 (King James Version)
12Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Isaiah 26:14 (King James Version)
14They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.

Ecclesiastes 3:18,20 (King James Version)
18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.19 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust
again.20 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one
dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all
is vanity.
Man is no different than the animals in this respect. Just as the animals die so does man.

Romans 2:7 (King James Version)
7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

This verse is telling us we need to seek eternal life. We do not have it now, any one of us can die and not live on, just the same as Adam and Eve.

This is a very basic teaching of the bible. But not for many 'Christian' religions. Does this mean because of the contradictions , these 'Christians' are false?

[TC Patriot]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

KJV 1611 ALL THE WAY TO HEAVEN!

[Pasterfarian Skank]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

More drivelings of the unread, blind, and oblivious. Why are you here, anyway? Do you enjoy your own bleatings?

I am here to laugh at wanabees like you. It's the well-known appeal of the train-wreck or the car accident.

What I don't understand is why the forum is recently attracting such illiterates. Perhaps it is a type of "trickle-down" effect.

[LordHaveMercy]

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It's no wonder this fool was banned.

It's a piece of clumsy, meandering, bumbling, unreadable tripe. I wonder how many people have ever really read it through? Probably no one but Zekie boy himself, I'd say.

More drivelings of the unread, blind, and oblivious. Why are you here, anyway? Do you enjoy your own bleatings?

[Pasterfarian Skank]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

Praise Jesus, Pastor!! Only a pure and Godly man toiling selflessly toward salvation would post such a wonderful guide! God bless you, sir. This guide should serve many a True Christian™ rebuking those godless false Christians.

It's no wonder this fool was banned.

It's a piece of clumsy, meandering, bumbling, unreadable tripe. I wonder how many people have ever really read it through? Probably no one but Zekie boy himself, I'd say.

[Pasterfarian Skank]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

A work of Godly Love and assiduous devotion to the Word of The Lord of Hosts. Our Faith that the KJV1611 is the one and only inerrant record of The Very Word of The Almighty has been rewarded where we sought none and were merely grateful for the beauty of its guidance.

I await a chance to quote some of the blasphemies of other versions to the brothers Martin and other salad-bar Christians.


Landover salutes you Pastor! Glory!

"Assiduous devotion"?

Could your post be translated into something resembling standard English for the sake of the unsaved trash who might be interested in your opinions?

Are you trying to say that the Godly Pastor's post is a thoughtful, penetrating, industrious, diligent, conscientious, dedicated, and painstaking piece of work that makes plain his devotion to the only true Word of God (the KJV1611)?

And that your faith in the KJV1811 has led you to being rewarded in some way, although you sought no reward?

You "await a chance" to quote some of the "blasphemies of other versions".

Why do you wait? You can quote the blasphemies in other versions any old time you like.

Definition of AWAIT
transitive verb
1
obsolete : to lie in wait for
2
a : to wait for <awaiting his arrival>
b : to remain in abeyance until <a treaty awaiting ratification>
3
: to be in store for <wonders what awaits him next>
intransitive verb
1
obsolete : attend
2
: to stay or be in waiting : wait
3
: to be in store
Examples of AWAIT
A crowd of people awaited the train.
We're eagerly awaiting his arrival.
He was arrested and is now in prison awaiting trial.
Her long-awaited new novel is finally being published.
The same fate awaits us all.

Do you think these obsolete words are more elegant, or that they make you sound more educated and intellectual?

I mean this in a caring way, of course, but they just make you seem silly and pretentious.

To get an idea of the nature of genuinely good writing, I suggest that you study the writing of writers like Orwell and Graham Greene. Of course, Jane Austen, Hardy, or any of the other acknowledged greats are worth looking at too. For a more ornate style, Henry James is a good example.

[Petal]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

Mr.Pastor Zeke, i founds this here video on youtubes an thawt of this here threads, it true!

[KJV4me]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

What a fantastic resource. Thanks to your glorious efforts, we can see clearly how the KJV1611 is the one and only Truth of God's Word.

Praise!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

A work of Godly Love and assiduous devotion to the Word of The Lord of Hosts. Our Faith that the KJV1611 is the one and only inerrant record of The Very Word of The Almighty has been rewarded where we sought none and were merely grateful for the beauty of its guidance.

I await a chance to quote some of the blasphemies of other versions to the brothers Martin and other salad-bar Christians.


Landover salutes you Pastor! Glory!

[Dr. Otto Bond Sr.]

Re: Seven Easy Ways To Tell The True Bible From the False Ones

Praise Jesus, Pastor!! Only a pure and Godly man toiling selflessly toward salvation would post such a wonderful guide! God bless you, sir. This guide should serve many a True Christian™ rebuking those godless false Christians.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Example #7


WORDS and NUMBERS

I believe God is very serious about his words and those who would tamper with them. Deut.4:2: "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it." Proverbs 30:5,6 "Every word of God is pure...Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." Also Rev. 22:18,19.

The NAS and the NIV are both grievously guilty of adding to, diminishing from and changing the words of God. This is not just my opinion, but documented facts from their own "bibles" and concordances. I will give just a few of the many examples I have found. In Judges 16:13,14 the NAS & NIV add 33 extra words to the text, which are not found in any Hebrew manuscripts, but according to the NIV footnote are found in some Greek copies. In II Sam. 13:34 the NIV adds another 21 words from the Greek. They are not found in the NAS. And again the NIV adds another 15 words to Psalm 145:13 from the Syriac - which are not in the NAS. In Gen. 4:8 NIV adds from the Greek: "let us go out into the field."

I have found about 40 examples in the NAS and around 80 in the NIV where they do not follow the Hebrew text but go with the Greek, Syriac, Targum etc. II Chron. 22:2 tells us that Ahaziah was 42 years old when he began to reign. All Hebrew texts, plus the ASV, Geneva, Darby,Young,Spanish, NKJV, and even the RSV & NRSV say 42. Yet the NAS & NIV change this number to 22 on the basis of the Syriac and some LXX copies. This information is in a footnote in the Scofield NIV of 1984. It is recorded in II Kings 8:26 that he was 22 years old. There is a rather easy solution to this apparent contradiction. Jehu was appointed by God to cut off the house of Ahab II Cron.22:7. Ahaziah was son in law to Ahab II Kings 8:27. So if you count how long each king related to Ahab reigned, you come up with exactly the 42nd year as a son of Ahab(related by marriage) when Ahaziah began to reign, though physically he was only 22. Ahab I Kings 16;29 -22 years reigned, Jehoram of Israel 12 years II Kings 3:1 and Jehoram of Judah 8 years II Chron. 21:5. Thus 22 + 12 + 8 =42. The new versions are based on unbelief. They say, "This is a scribal error." They don't believe God has preserved his word without error. They do not have an inspired, inerrant Bible in their hands. Ask them and you will see.

A riddle is found within a riddle in Judges 14:12-18. Verse 15 says "it came to pass on the SEVENTH day". This is in all Hebrew texts, ASV,Geneva, Young, Darby, Douay, NKJ (but with misleading footnote) and Spanish. The NIV changes this to the FOURTH day with a footnote that says some LXX, Syriac 4th; Hebrew 7th. NAS also has FOURTH but no footnote. NAS NIV still have a contradiction because of v.17, 18. Can you solve the riddle? Hints: Could any days have intervened between v12 and v.15? And what would the first 7th day of v. 15 have meant to the Jewish Samson? There is no need to doubt God's Holy word. Get the KJV Holy Bible and stick with it.

One last example dealing with numbers - though I have many more. In I Samuel 13:1 the KJV, NKJV, Geneva and Spanish say: "Saul reigned ONE year; and when he had reigned TWO years over Israel..." The NAS says: "Saul was 40 years old when he began to reign and he reigned 32 years over Israel." The NIV has: "Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty two years." Gleason Archer, one of the translators of the NIV, says in his book Bible Difficulties on page 171 that the Hebrew text here has been lost. How is that for God preserving his word?! The NAS & NIV not only disagree with each other but contradict Acts 13:21 where we are told that Saul reigned for 40 years. The Hebrew text is not lost. Check out the concordances of NAS- NIV and you will see they have at times translated the words "one" and "year" just as the KJV.

"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it." The NIV complete concordance tells us that they have not translated THOUSANDS of Hebrew and Greek words. Here are just a few examples. Zechariah 1:7 NIV omits "saying". The NIV number for this word is #606. Their own concordance tells us they have "not translated" this word 878 times. Zech. 1:11 "Behold" is gone. NIV #2180 not translated 550 times. Zech 1:18 omits "mine eyes" #6524 36 times not translated; "saw" and "behold" also are gone from this same verse. "Children" #1201 not translated 237 times; Zech. 8:17 omits "in your hearts", Zech. 8:19 omits the word "fast" 3 of the 4 times it occurs in this verse. Zech. 9:1 omits "burden". All of these words are in the NAS, NKJ, and of course the KJV. The NIV has over 64,000 fewer words in it than the KJV. It does not translate the words "it came to pass" (also, to be, happen, occur) #2118 887 times. The words "I pray thee" #5228 in NIV are not translated 297 times out of the 405 times it occurs in the Hebrew text. See how the omission of this simple phrase changes a request into a demand. In Exodus 33:18 Moses speaks to God: "And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory." NIV: "Then Moses said, 'Now show me your glory.'" This type of "bible" may appeal to the blab it and grab it crowd, but it is not the pure word of God. The NAS 95 Update version omits almost 8000 words from the Greek and Hebrew texts which were previously in the NAS 1977 edition. Perhaps they reason we don't talk in that old fashioned way any more, so let's update the language to a more modern usage. But I ask you, if this book is indeed Gods holy words of truth, and he wrote it in this manner, what or who gives the modern scholars the right to edit Gods word?

Thank you for your time and attention. May God give you the grace and humility to come to the correct verdict and the only correct version. Through the electing grace of God, washed in the blood of the Lamb,

YIC

Pastor Ezekiel