[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

It's a funny picture, I have to give you that.

[Lesbith]

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Seeing all those pictures just made me want to post this:

[Jacques]

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Most everyone in France is a queer from what I've heard. It must be nasty over there.

Another false myth about france, the homosexul population all that much higher. But i wont say it's not nasty over here

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I hate to see Homosexuals who could have been saved, Iv tryed to talk one out of it but to no avail. They are determined to Go to hell I think.

Most everyone in France is a queer from what I've heard. It must be nasty over there.

[Jacques]

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I hate to see Homosexuals who could have been saved, Iv tryed to talk one out of it but to no avail. They are determined to Go to hell I think.

[Brother Temperance]

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This type of thinking is what makes the world an oppressed narrow minded place, You shouldn't deny homosexuals, fact: god loves every one.

We don't deny homosexuals. We often point out that homosexuals exist. We constantly point out the homosexual agenda left, right and centre (but mainly left). We just also don't deny what God's word says about the homosexualist menace.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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This type of thinking is what makes the world an oppressed narrow minded place, You shouldn't deny homosexuals, fact: god loves every one. If you are too blind to see that then you are a person who rejects gods children.

If God loves homosexuals why does He call them an abomination and demand their deaths? (Lev. 20:13) Why does He send them to Hell?

Is that what "love" means for you?

[wrongpathtaker]

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This type of thinking is what makes the world an oppressed narrow minded place, You shouldn't deny homosexuals, fact: god loves every one. If you are too blind to see that then you are a person who rejects gods children.

[godsbigwang]

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i kinda like jesus i mean he is pretty hunky. especially in that tiny loin cloth!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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It's true that there is a rather delicate timing issue, but you have to accept Christ with your heart, not your mouth. As long as your mind is intact, you shouldn't have a problem. The Bible says you have to accept Christ as your savior; it doesn't say you have to prounounce any certain words.

That's not exactly right.

Rom. 10:9-10: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

[ExGay Alex]

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Thank you for those kind words, but I am ex-gay and I choose not to lie with men. As for Matthew 5:28, I find it alarming that you would introduce into the holy word of God a word that is not there. Surely God would have introduced the concept of lusting after "men" if He had so wanted. He limited this injunction to "women" and you will have to live with this.

But this is a semantic interpretation of the Bible and I agree with you on the fundamentals that fornication of any kind or lying with a man as with a women is a sin unto God. I have rebuked and bound my demons and God has turned my orientation away from the men. Urges that formerly seemed so natural to me -- the feeling of the strong arms of a man clasping me around the waist from behind, holding my hands over his, knowing his rough, moist breath on the nape of my neck, his desire against my back -- these feelings have been lifted from me, praise Jesus, and I have no homosexual desires of any kind. POOF, the urges are just gone and I am repulsed at the very thought of what I have done and I follow Jesus's path to the light.

I can testify that no boy is born with another boy's thingy in is hand (or worse) and that with a little motivation and the help of the Lord, any gay man can turn from this sinful way.

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

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It's true that there is a rather delicate timing issue, but you have to accept Christ with your heart, not your mouth. As long as your mind is intact, you shouldn't have a problem. The Bible says you have to accept Christ as your savior; it doesn't say you have to prounounce any certain words.

The LORD needs His tithing punctually, my Unsaved® Brother, so the more time you take to accept Him, the more you are stealing from him:

Malachi 3:8

Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

Whether you are Christian depends on what you FEEL as opposed to homosexual which depends on what you DO. Only people who lie with men are damned, as are fornicators. If a guy is standing in front of me on the subway and I imagine going for his beltbuckle, God doesn't care.

God cares about you committing abomination! And He is not any softer with fornicators, adultery, or lustful behaviour:

Matthew 5:28

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

I don't see why lusting after a man would be any different, or worse, actually...

But you did give me something to think about. If I get Brain cancer and then accept the Lord, it maybe not count. But I minister to homosexual community in Russia, so I doubt God will strike me. I am doing good works in the clubs, bars and cruisy parks. Still, thanks for your advice, Deaner. Look me up if you ever get to Moscow.

It is a great thing that you have come to gather your knowledge here, in God's Favourite Forum, now why don't you make a thread in the Introduction Forum and tell us a bit about yourself?

[ExGay Alex]

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That's true. Unless God kills you of rotting cancer of the mouth first.

It's true that there is a rather delicate timing issue, but you have to accept Christ with your heart, not your mouth. As long as your mind is intact, you shouldn't have a problem. The Bible says you have to accept Christ as your savior; it doesn't say you have to prounounce any certain words. Whether you are Christian depends on what you FEEL as opposed to homosexual which depends on what you DO. Only people who lie with men are damned, as are fornicators. If a guy is standing in front of me on the subway and I imagine going for his beltbuckle, God doesn't care.

But you did give me something to think about. If I get Brain cancer and then accept the Lord, it maybe not count. But I minister to homosexual community in Russia, so I doubt God will strike me. I am doing good works in the clubs, bars and cruisy parks. Still, thanks for your advice, Deaner. Look me up if you ever get to Moscow.

[Deaner]

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The other option is that if I slip I know that all I have to do is repent my sins just before I die and it will be ok.

That's true. Unless God kills you of rotting cancer of the mouth first.

[ExGay Alex]

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I am a former homosexual, and I can assure you that all you have to do is stop doing it. It hurts anyway. The other option is that if I slip I know that all I have to do is repent my sins just before I die and it will be ok.