[Mother Of Seven]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

It may not be idolatry, but it is witchcraft. How can you say "knowing a certain month is going to be emotional", when you're talking about hocus pocus? Because a witch says it will be emotional, does not mean it will be emotional for you or anyone else for that matter. So clearly, it's not knowing anything about any month. If you re-read Pastor Zeke's first post, you will see that he deals with the aspect of witchcraft.

[FreeFromBrains]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

When I saw the title of this thread, I was drawn to it immediately because astrology is something that I have struggled to understand as an obvious sin. Before I write even my second sentence, let it be known that I am here to learn. I am not here to debate. If you will allow, I would like to post the constituents of my question in hope that those of you who come to this thread will be able to settle my uncertainties. I hope that this thread was started to dispel uncertainties.

Although I have always identfied myself as a daughter of God, I grew to be in the science field, academically/professionally, because I have an analytical mind and calling to work hard through scientific research. Perhaps it is for this reason that viewing astrology as a sin confounds me.

1. I accept wholly that idoltry is wrong. I accept all the reasons why idoltry is wrong. It is not right and just to believe that anything other than God should be held in power. However, we utilise power every day, by driving cars, operating machinery, etc. We accept that whilst God is the all powerful, there are physical phenomena below God which have the power to effect us. Another example of this is disease.

When we identify that specific cellular and molecular functionality, for example, apoptosis, plays a key role in cancer. When we seek to stop or slow down this reactivity, via medical intervention, we assume automatically that the action/movement of cells and molecules affect the human condition.

In a similar way, the moon moves and affects the tides. This reactivity, in both examples, is just nothing more than physics. God made the planets and the cells and the molecules to function, as part of our functionality. When a person says that a planetary movement has an effect, I fail to see how this is to deny God. It seems as a mere tapestry of God's work.

2. I know that some people use astrology as guidence. For instance, knowing a certain month is going to be emotional, is that not the same as a weather forcast in knowing that a certain week is going to be wet? The planets are just a bit "higher" than the clouds. But nevertheless also operate within a very small microcosm, compared to the size of God's universe. In the past, when I have seen an astrological forecast, I have never thought anything other than the predicted event is an interpretation of God's plan. Forcasting rain is a predicted event of God's plan. I fail to see how heeding weather prediction therefore means that one worships clouds or worships chemistry.

These are just some preliminary questions that have troubled me for a long time. A poster above said about the indian culture who do rely on prediction. I can see how that is wrong, because that is reliance. If one sees it merely as a prospection, that seems different.

What will be will be and it is all in God's hands. I do not seek astrological prediction in any way, as I like to enjoy the present day that the LORD has given. I do not worry about tomorrow because I know that God is already there. Still, I see the planets as nothing more conceptually than cells. They move, they affect life on earth. I fail to see the sin in acknowledging that. Please do not be angry with me. I took the opportunity to ask.

Just exactly how does the gravity of the stars and the planets affect the future?

The gravitational effect on a person from this range is miniscule because the inverse square law means the strength of gravity reduces by the square of the distance.

You are more gravitically affected bus a bus driving past your house.

Even if the gravity was intense enough to have a meaningful effect HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE FUTURE?

Good grief.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

When I saw the title of this thread, I was drawn to it immediately because astrology is something that I have struggled to understand as an obvious sin. Before I write even my second sentence, let it be known that I am here to learn. I am not here to debate. If you will allow, I would like to post the constituents of my question in hope that those of you who come to this thread will be able to settle my uncertainties. I hope that this thread was started to dispel uncertainties.

Although I have always identfied myself as a daughter of God, I grew to be in the science field, academically/professionally, because I have an analytical mind and calling to work hard through scientific research. Perhaps it is for this reason that viewing astrology as a sin confounds me.

1. I accept wholly that idoltry is wrong. I accept all the reasons why idoltry is wrong. It is not right and just to believe that anything other than God should be held in power. However, we utilise power every day, by driving cars, operating machinery, etc. We accept that whilst God is the all powerful, there are physical phenomena below God which have the power to effect us. Another example of this is disease.

When we identify that specific cellular and molecular functionality, for example, apoptosis, plays a key role in cancer. When we seek to stop or slow down this reactivity, via medical intervention, we assume automatically that the action/movement of cells and molecules affect the human condition.

In a similar way, the moon moves and affects the tides. This reactivity, in both examples, is just nothing more than physics. God made the planets and the cells and the molecules to function, as part of our functionality. When a person says that a planetary movement has an effect, I fail to see how this is to deny God. It seems as a mere tapestry of God's work.

2. I know that some people use astrology as guidence. For instance, knowing a certain month is going to be emotional, is that not the same as a weather forcast in knowing that a certain week is going to be wet? The planets are just a bit "higher" than the clouds. But nevertheless also operate within a very small microcosm, compared to the size of God's universe. In the past, when I have seen an astrological forecast, I have never thought anything other than the predicted event is an interpretation of God's plan. Forcasting rain is a predicted event of God's plan. I fail to see how heeding weather prediction therefore means that one worships clouds or worships chemistry.

These are just some preliminary questions that have troubled me for a long time. A poster above said about the indian culture who do rely on prediction. I can see how that is wrong, because that is reliance. If one sees it merely as a prospection, that seems different.

What will be will be and it is all in God's hands. I do not seek astrological prediction in any way, as I like to enjoy the present day that the LORD has given. I do not worry about tomorrow because I know that God is already there. Still, I see the planets as nothing more conceptually than cells. They move, they affect life on earth. I fail to see the sin in acknowledging that. Please do not be angry with me. I took the opportunity to ask.

The Bible(KJV1611) tells us it is wrong. Please read the thread from the start.

End of story.

YIC

[Mary Grace]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

When I saw the title of this thread, I was drawn to it immediately because astrology is something that I have struggled to understand as an obvious sin. Before I write even my second sentence, let it be known that I am here to learn. I am not here to debate. If you will allow, I would like to post the constituents of my question in hope that those of you who come to this thread will be able to settle my uncertainties. I hope that this thread was started to dispel uncertainties.

Although I have always identfied myself as a daughter of God, I grew to be in the science field, academically/professionally, because I have an analytical mind and calling to work hard through scientific research. Perhaps it is for this reason that viewing astrology as a sin confounds me.

1. I accept wholly that idoltry is wrong. I accept all the reasons why idoltry is wrong. It is not right and just to believe that anything other than God should be held in power. However, we utilise power every day, by driving cars, operating machinery, etc. We accept that whilst God is the all powerful, there are physical phenomena below God which have the power to effect us. Another example of this is disease.

When we identify that specific cellular and molecular functionality, for example, apoptosis, plays a key role in cancer. When we seek to stop or slow down this reactivity, via medical intervention, we assume automatically that the action/movement of cells and molecules affect the human condition.

In a similar way, the moon moves and affects the tides. This reactivity, in both examples, is just nothing more than physics. God made the planets and the cells and the molecules to function, as part of our functionality. When a person says that a planetary movement has an effect, I fail to see how this is to deny God. It seems as a mere tapestry of God's work.

2. I know that some people use astrology as guidence. For instance, knowing a certain month is going to be emotional, is that not the same as a weather forcast in knowing that a certain week is going to be wet? The planets are just a bit "higher" than the clouds. But nevertheless also operate within a very small microcosm, compared to the size of God's universe. In the past, when I have seen an astrological forecast, I have never thought anything other than the predicted event is an interpretation of God's plan. Forcasting rain is a predicted event of God's plan. I fail to see how heeding weather prediction therefore means that one worships clouds or worships chemistry.

These are just some preliminary questions that have troubled me for a long time. A poster above said about the indian culture who do rely on prediction. I can see how that is wrong, because that is reliance. If one sees it merely as a prospection, that seems different.

What will be will be and it is all in God's hands. I do not seek astrological prediction in any way, as I like to enjoy the present day that the LORD has given. I do not worry about tomorrow because I know that God is already there. Still, I see the planets as nothing more conceptually than cells. They move, they affect life on earth. I fail to see the sin in acknowledging that. Please do not be angry with me. I took the opportunity to ask.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

As if there is anything up there in the stars that could affect us down here. We must be well over 500 miles from the nearest star.

This is interesting though. I checked and I wasn't born under Taurus. As a consequence, I have never owned one.

[Christian_soldier]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

Thank you, it really infuriates Jesus when these astrology sorcerers concoct mumbo jumbo on Zodiac signs (Cancer gets along with Capricorn etc.), offer to read your palm or pretend to foretell your future. I know my future is in Heaven at the right hand of Jesus himself, whereas all those of you believe in astrologers will go directly to Hell and that's 99.999% of the population of India who strongly believe in astrology as this stuff has plenty of followers here.

When Indians marry each other, they consult astrologers about their star position and combine those results with their stupid belief in reincarnation and cow worship animism. This country is a real hotbed of superstition and astrology takes center stage in deceiving gullible fools of their money

Let me out you on this not so secret thing, what do you to scam hard-working Americans of their money, you sell them Ponzi "get rich quick" schemes or inflated stocks on Wall Street. What do you do to get rich off gullible Indians? That's right, open an astrology shop, I know of Indian people who have been spending thousands of dollars (yes, that's US currency) to improve their astrology position.

I can't help but laugh at these charlatans and the Indian fools duped by them. I'm strongly protected by Jesus and don't require any fortune tellers to make up shit about my future

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

This is just another example of secular science's magical thinking

Secular scientists hide behind their Ven diagrams, their set squares and white coats because they don't want to admit that the so called science of Astrology is nothing more than wish fulfilment.

They may talk big with magnatars, gamma wave bursts, dark halos and radio telescopes but what actually do these do?

And answer me this: if the Big Bang exploded into being trillions of years ago what is it exploding into?

Your move atheists!

YIC

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

It's just silly to think that the motions of the stars can predict your future. Because we have the Bible, we Christians are the only ones who can see the future clearly. Here's what the future holds for those who read horoscopes:

Aries: You're going to hell.

Taurus: You're going to hell.

Gemini: You're going to hell.

Cancer: You're going to hell.

Leo: You're going to hell.

Virgo: You're going to hell.

Libra: You're going to hell.

Scorpio: You're going to hell.

Sagittarius: You're going to hell.

Capricorn: You're going to hell.

Aquarius: You're going to hell.

Pisces: You're going to hell.

Compare this with what your magazine and radio horoscopes say and we'll see whose predictions come true. Our millennia-old Book, written by dozens of authors over many centuries, is a much more accurate guide to the future than the motions of heavenly bodies. It's time people gave up their primitive thinking.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

Astrology is one of the worst sins ever, and we all need to be on guard against it. Especially Capricorns, because they're especially susceptible to superstitious nonsense.

[Mother Of Seven]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

You're really onto something there Pastor Zeke! Gemini:

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

Apparently this is the Capricornus constellation:



with its lines drawn in.


How can that represent a goat? Take the line away, and it becomes even more ridiculous. The same applies to all the other constellations these pagans worship.

You know it really burns my biscuits when people start playing connect the dots with stars. That one above there looks like a woman's private area, her sin-patch. Probably satan's idea of a joke, to force God to look down upon stellar pornography.

[Mother Of Seven]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

Edited - meaningless in the light of Pastor Zeke's post below.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

Yes, it puts me in mind of those dope snorting hippie paleontologists who find a bone fragment the size of a pea, and then extrapolate from this a whole new species of "monkey-man."

It's funny yet sad to see the pains these haters of God take to conjure up all manner of supposed contradictions of God's Truths.

Ephesians 5:11 (1611 King James Bible)

And haue no fellowship with the vnfruitfull workes of darkenesse, but rather reproue them.

[Mother Of Seven]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

Apparently this is the Capricornus constellation:



with its lines drawn in.


How can that represent a goat? Take the line away, and it becomes even more ridiculous. The same applies to all the other constellations these pagans worship.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Astrology is a Serious Sin!

Godly sermon, Pastor.

But not only is astrology evil, it is plain dumb. Can you imagine thinking you see people in the stars? To be so bored you come up with back stories and actually believing that the stars can actually affect your personality?

It's so ridiculous.

We know it's all evil spirits and God's Holy Spirit that control who we are.