[OnYourKnees]

Re: Catholic

It's also a well known fact that Catholicism is based largely on Babylonian Paganism combined with Christianity. Hmmm. I always thought that if something like that was combined the universe will explode. Oh wait! It's going to after Jesus comes back! Ya!

That WOULD explain the cannibalism thing.

Imagine the disappointment when those pagans learned they'd not be eating BABY Jesus, just Jesus Bread!

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Catholic

I've heard that argument before, but can you provide some sort of evidence (non-biased, if able) to backup that claim. The only time I've been given reference was from a very very biased source, but whateve

Here's one. There's plenty more out there. How do you define "biased"?

[Magus]

Re: Catholic

It's also a well known fact that Catholicism is based largely on Babylonian Paganism combined with Christianity. Hmmm. I always thought that if something like that was combined the universe will explode. Oh wait! It's going to after Jesus comes back! Ya!

I've heard that argument before, but can you provide some sort of evidence (non-biased, if able) to backup that claim. The only time I've been given reference was from a very very biased source, but whateve

[Brother V]

Re: Catholic

That is incorrect and NOT the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Peace be with you friend in Christ.

HolySong

To the catholic encyclopedia cave batman!!!

transsubstantiation

When, therefore, He Who is All Truth and All Power said of the bread: "This is my body", the bread became, through the utterance of these words, the Body of Christ; consequently, on the completion of the sentence the substance of bread was no longer present, but the Body of Christ under the outward appearance of bread. Hence the bread must have become the Body of Christ, i.e. the former must have been converted into the latter.

Because you know, Jesus NEVER spoke in parables.

Oh wait... yeah he did.

His disciples asked him why he did that once, do you know what he said?

So dumb people would go to hell (basically)

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?

Friend, Jesus LIKES to send people to hell. Are you one of them?


(Here, have some more reading on the Eucharist)

Now, lets look at one of the reasons for excommunication from the cathylick church.

Desecration of the Eucharist (canon 1367)

Did you know that just saying it's SYMBOLIC and not really Jesus meat, is desecration?

Guess what, you should be excommunicated.

what is excommunication by the CC

Friend, you should just give up on your veneration of bread and wine, and statues and foreskins, and just start worshipping HIM!

YIC
V

[Spader]

Re: Catholic

It's also a well known fact that Catholicism is based largely on Babylonian Paganism combined with Christianity. Hmmm. I always thought that if something like that was combined the universe will explode. Oh wait! It's going to after Jesus comes back! Ya!

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Catholic

Okay just to get you to see at least a little open mindedness...

Imagine if you can, you going to Hell when you die.
When you get there you look up at heaven and ask God why you have been sent there. I mean you have followed the Bible to it's exact word, you practice every single good deed that has ever existed, you are so faithful you would have killed yourself if God asked you too. God replies, "You are all wrong. I did not send Jesus to the earth, he was just some fanatic that got out of hand. You have followed a false prophet. All you Catholics, Mormons, Baptists, and Lutherans were wrong. The bible is hoax. It was written by people who were in desperation. You have all followed false religions. The Judaic culture is the only real religon. You have been exposed and they tried to convert you, but you turned them away and now you will pay the price. Now you will burn in Hell for eternity."

Imagine this. Now I know you will all instanly deny this as a thing that would never ever happen. I mean your faith in God and Jesus is amazing (I'll give you that), but if you deem that every other person who is not of your religon will go to hell then is it so wrong for others to think that you will have an equal fate?

I'm not trying to convert you, I'm just saying that you should really keep the fact in your mind that other people are human beings too. We all have emotions and faiths.

Think about it.

There's a difference. We're right and they're wrong. There are people out there who think that the Holocaust never happened, that the moon landings were a hoax, Elvis lives and that rocks turned into monkey soup. Do you seriously think all these wacko ideas should have equal time with the Truth? Then why should false cults be given as much respect as the One True Faith?

Do you ask for intercession from others? It is not condemned by Landover Baptist since there is a prayer forum.

James 5
16Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of the righteous is powerful and effective.


Just like you would ask for prayers from a friend. Catholics ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us.

Jesus makes it very clear that we are not to venerate His mother.
Luke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

When a silly woman tried to claim that Mary was blessed, Jesus explicitly smacked her down, and made it clear that only True Christians™ are blessed. He did not say we are as blessed as Mary, or equally blessed, he said "rather" - implying a preference for us over Mary. The Bible makes it very clear that I, Brother Temperance, am more blessed than Mary. Does that mean you should build a statue of me, and bow down to it, and light candles for me? No, of course not, that'd be insane blasphemy. So why do it in front of some silly tart whose greatest achievement in life consisted of getting herself knocked up?

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Catholic

Do you ask for intercession from others? It is not condemned by Landover Baptist since there is a prayer forum.

James 5
16Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of the righteous is powerful and effective.


Just like you would ask for prayers from a friend. Catholics ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us.

HolySong

Um, that's a neat idea and all, but the Bible makes it crystal clear that dead people is dead people. All the dead will be resurrected at Judgment Day.

The First Resurrection will be that of the faithful, to everlasting life and glory. The Second Resurrection will be that of everyone else, to everlasting punishment in Hell.

Mary's dead. All the "saints" -- which were all declared so by Catholic Popes, not by God -- are dead. They can't hear you, they can't talk to God. They're DEAD until they are resurrected in body. Don't believe me? LOOK IT UP.

Why do you think the Catholic Church forbade cremation for hundreds of years? They were afraid God wouldn't be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again, if only ashes were left. (I guess they thought the Creator of the Universe couldn't figure out how to do it?)

DEAD PEOPLE CAN'T HELP YOU.

Meanwhile, you light candles before statues of Mary, and kiss the statue of Mary, and pray before it. Or the stained glass window of Saint Whatever (pick a day, there's a saint for it). That's called idolatry, and is expressly forbidden by God.

Prayer requestors aren't asking for a mediator. They're asking others to also demonstrate to God through their faith that they support the individual needing assistance. They're also asking live people to help.

[HolySong]

Re: Catholic

So, you are are saying that you go to them for mediation/intercession? Well, that is still wrong because the Bible states that Jesus Christ is the only mediator/intercesser when it comes to us praying.

Do you ask for intercession from others? It is not condemned by Landover Baptist since there is a prayer forum.

James 5
16Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of the righteous is powerful and effective.


Just like you would ask for prayers from a friend. Catholics ask Mary and the Saints to pray for us.

HolySong

[HolySong]

Re: Catholic

2. We do not claim to eat the actual flesh and blood of Jesus. It is a symbolic act.

That is incorrect and NOT the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Peace be with you friend in Christ.

HolySong

[The Catholic]

Re: Catholic

Okay just to get you to see at least a little open mindedness...

Imagine if you can, you going to Hell when you die.
When you get there you look up at heaven and ask God why you have been sent there. I mean you have followed the Bible to it's exact word, you practice every single good deed that has ever existed, you are so faithful you would have killed yourself if God asked you too. God replies, "You are all wrong. I did not send Jesus to the earth, he was just some fanatic that got out of hand. You have followed a false prophet. All you Catholics, Mormons, Baptists, and Lutherans were wrong. The bible is hoax. It was written by people who were in desperation. You have all followed false religions. The Judaic culture is the only real religon. You have been exposed and they tried to convert you, but you turned them away and now you will pay the price. Now you will burn in Hell for eternity."

Imagine this. Now I know you will all instanly deny this as a thing that would never ever happen. I mean your faith in God and Jesus is amazing (I'll give you that), but if you deem that every other person who is not of your religon will go to hell then is it so wrong for others to think that you will have an equal fate?

I'm not trying to convert you, I'm just saying that you should really keep the fact in your mind that other people are human beings too. We all have emotions and faiths.

Think about it.

[Brother V]

Re: Catholic

Okay buddy time to clear some things up here.
1. We do not worship Mary, any other saints, or statues. We pray that they may help us seek Gods forgiveness.

Are you familiar with this book that we all call "the Bible" (KJV1611); probably not, as it's not even used in more than half of your services.

Let us look at this one nice little passage with the word MEDIATOR.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Now, lets look at some cathylic doctrine...

All our hope do we repose in the most Blessed Virgin -- in the all fair and immaculate one who has crushed the poisonous head of the most cruel serpent and brought salvation to the world: in her who is the glory of the prophets and apostles, the honor of the martyrs, the crown and joy of all the saints; in her who is the safest refuge and the most trustworthy helper of all who are in danger; in her who, with her only-begotten Son, is the most powerful Mediatrix and Conciliatrix in the whole world

whooooooo, hold on now... The Bible says that Jesus is the ONE MEDIATOR. But the cathylicks claim that it's both Jesus and Mary?

In case you think I'm making that section up. have a link.

But Jesus wasn't always fond of this woman who was merely the vessel for His birth and early childhood rearing.

What did Jesus HIMSELF say to Mary when he was dangling on the cross?

John 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

Not, "mom, I'll miss you". Not "I'll talk to you when you too are transported to heaven"... nope, Jesus said "Woman, behold thy son!"

For the short time that Jesus was on earth, He grew tired of listening to His mother nag at Him.

Think back to the wedding at Cana.

John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

Jesus couldn't stand Mary's bitching for 32-33 years, what makes you think He's been happy listening to her for the past 1976 (or so) years?

And you cathylicks want to use the woman Jesus could barely tolerate on earth as a mediatrix in heaven?

*Boggle*

YIC
V

[BornAgain]

Re: Catholic

"The Catholic", you're not going to convince any of us that Catholics are even REMOTELY close to being True Christians™.

It's been proven time and time again that Catlickism is just Christianity mixed in with Paganism, and has nothing to do with the Holy KJV1611 Bible.

Where in the bible does it say to pray to that whore Mary? That's right, NOWHERE!

Perhaps you'll get a clue and see the vatican and catlickism for what it really is; I'll be praying,

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Catholic

Okay buddy time to clear some things up here.
1. We do not worship Mary, any other saints, or statues. We pray that they may help us seek Gods forgiveness.

So they're sort of like a mediator between you and God, then?

2. We do not claim to eat the actual flesh and blood of Jesus. It is a symbolic act.
3. Not all Catholics forbid eating meat on Fridays. (just wondering where in the bible it forbids not to eat meat on Fridays) I certainly don't

Do they forbid marriage for Bishops? Do you know what the Bible says about that? Btw, 1 Timothy 4:1-3 explicitly prophecies that heretics will become influenced by demons and command abstention from meat. I believe you have already been sufficiently rebuked for lying about eating the flesh of Jesus.

4. We don't direct people to follow the pope instead of God

The Pope and God's word disagree on many, many issues. Which do you side with?

5. Just becuase some sick priest molested a boy doesn't mean we support it.

You don't support it, you just help to cover it up. Riiight.

[Girls Do Not Wear Pants]

Re: Catholic

Okay buddy time to clear some things up here.
1. We do not worship Mary, any other saints, or statues. We pray that they may help us seek Gods forgiveness.

So, you are are saying that you go to them for mediation/intercession? Well, that is still wrong because the Bible states that Jesus Christ is the only mediator/intercesser when it comes to us praying.

2. We do not claim to eat the actual flesh and blood of Jesus. It is a symbolic act.

Ummm... Time to read the doctrine of your church, buddy. The official doctrine states that after the words of institution are spoken, the bread and wine fully become the body and blood. You should know what a church believes before you start attending it.

[The Catholic]

Re: Catholic

Catholics do all these things, expressly forbidden in the Bible and often described in the Bible as the doctrine of devils:

• Worship Mary, the deceased mother of Jesus, calling her Queen of Heaven.
• Pray to statues.
• Claim to eat the actual flesh and blood of Jesus.
• Pray to said flesh and blood of Jesus (crackers and wine).
• Forbid their priests to marry.
• Forbid eating meat on Friday.
• Declare their "Pope" to be God's representative on Earth, and direct their followers to pray through him instead of to God.
• Allow their priests to rape young boys, and schlep the pedophiles from parish to parish when they get caught. Lawsuits have gone as far as the Vatican, so it's not like they're unaware. This means they condone it.
• Pray to saints, who are also dead.
• Cart around "relics", pieces of dead "saints", for people to pray to and kiss and otherwise touch.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the Search function on this Forum, or at the very least look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici...atholic_Church <-- here.

Okay buddy time to clear some things up here.
1. We do not worship Mary, any other saints, or statues. We pray that they may help us seek Gods forgiveness.
2. We do not claim to eat the actual flesh and blood of Jesus. It is a symbolic act.
3. Not all Catholics forbid eating meat on Fridays. (just wondering where in the bible it forbids not to eat meat on Fridays) I certainly don't
4. We don't direct people to follow the pope instead of God
5. Just becuase some sick priest molested a boy doesn't mean we support it.

I don't deny many other rituals that we do, but if you're going to critize another persons religion could you at least get your facts right.

By the way, it may not be my place but, could you people at least try to keep an open mind about other peoples religions.