[James Hutchins]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Are we really going to debate whether the debate is over or not?

Grow up. Please.

If Remy is too intimidated to return, then so be it. But only he can make that choice. I ask all of you landovers to step down and allow him that opportunity.

There is nothing left to debate. Once a cat is dead, it is dead, no matter how many times you kick it. Accept defeat and move one.

This is the kind of mormonic senseless diatribe that is making you guys the laughingstock of this generation.

...and you add absolutely zero. Another worthless spewer.

[Osambo 08]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

That is what we are asking you to do friend. Go look at Remy signature; it is so clear is won the debate he even lists his victory over you. What else do you want?

I really find dealing with closed minded religious fundamentalist like you Catholics so tiresome. Nothing ever convinces you.

Lol, how do you define closed-mindedness?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Are we really going to debate whether the debate is over or not?

Grow up. Please.

If Remy is too intimidated to return, then so be it. But only he can make that choice. I ask all of you landovers to step down and allow him that opportunity.

That is what we are asking you to do friend. Go look at Remy signature; it is so clear is won the debate he even lists his victory over you. What else do you want?

I really find dealing with closed minded religious fundamentalist like you Catholics so tiresome. Nothing ever convinces you.

[Lola Handcock]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

do you just pick and choose what questions you answer?

[Osambo 08]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Brother Remy won hands down. It was lost from the start. Simple fact, the Pope and his henchmen hide the money to pay off the lawsuits and the perpetrators who commit the acts. Therefore any defense of the catlick mafia is impossible. You are lost before you even began.

This is the kind of moronic senseless diatribe that is making you guys the laughingstock of this generation.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Are we really going to debate whether the debate is over or not?

Grow up. Please.

If Remy is too intimidated to return, then so be it. But only he can make that choice. I ask all of you landovers to step down and allow him that opportunity.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Brother Remy won hands down. It was lost from the start. Simple fact, the Pope and his henchmen hide the money to pay off the lawsuits and the perpetrators who commit the acts. Therefore any defense of the catlick mafia is impossible. You are lost before you even began.

[Osambo 08]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Sure, Brother Remy deserves his victory lap after the rhetorical beating he gave you. Frankly I am impressed you are able to type threw the pain. While it was quite painful to watch your sour grapes are most unbecoming.

No one won, since there wasn't an unbiased judge to evaluate the debate ( and noooo, God isn't a legitimate judge lol).

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Let me assure you of one thing. I want to achieve just as much as you. If at any time I thought the Catholic Faith to be a hindrance to my eternal life, I would drop it like a rock. It is up to me to decide when I have been convinced of the pollution of the Catholic Church, and I hardly feel that a failure on the part of internet connectivity is a reason to give up on my faith.

Now, please allow Remy to continue.

Sure, Brother Remy deserves his victory lap after the rhetorical beating he gave you. Frankly I am impressed you are able to type threw the pain. While it was quite painful to watch your sour grapes are most unbecoming.

[Osambo 08]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Let me assure you of one thing. I want to achieve just as much as you. If at any time I thought the Catholic Faith to be a hindrance to my eternal life, I would drop it like a rock. It is up to me to decide when I have been convinced of the pollution of the Catholic Church, and I hardly feel that a failure on the part of internet connectivity is a reason to give up on my faith.

Now, please allow Remy to continue.

Don't even bother, man. If you bring reason into this forum, they'd silence you. They are merely mindless drones.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Friend,
this is unseemly. Brother Remey has clearly won the debate on this topic. Be a man about it and congratulate Brother Remey. That last post of yours is embarrassing.

Be honest, do you have some racists reason for being unwilling to admit defeat at the hands of an ex-black man?

Let me assure you of one thing. I want to achieve just as much as you. If at any time I thought the Catholic Faith to be a hindrance to my eternal life, I would drop it like a rock. It is up to me to decide when I have been convinced of the pollution of the Catholic Church, and I hardly feel that a failure on the part of internet connectivity is a reason to give up on my faith.

Now, please allow Remy to continue.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Oh I'm sorry... I forgot about this thread! My internet was down for about a week and I totally forgot, my apologies...

Friend,
this is unseemly. Brother Remey has clearly won the debate on this topic. Be a man about it and congratulate Brother Remey. That last post of yours is embarrassing.

Be honest, do you have some racists reason for being unwilling to admit defeat at the hands of an ex-black man?

[Lola Handcock]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Sadly this is also untrue. As the percentage of Pedophilic priests runs at about 1%.

If that's true that 1% of your priesthood are homers that like little boys why has the catherlk church not turned them over to the police so then can be tried and sent to JAIL,and later to hell. The first being mans punishment the second and far worst is OUR LORDS punishment.

Why does the Pope just hid them away ,move them around so the can commit the same sin over and over?

Why do the members of the catherlik church allow their tithe to be used to pay off the parents and little boys that were sodomised by YOUR priests? I would think that their hard earned money would be used for better things than hush money!

Why is the catherlik church lending ad and comfort to common butt pirates? Why do they no purge themselves of the evil with in the church?


Is there an explanation for that? If there is I bet its a doozy

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Oh I'm sorry... I forgot about this thread! My internet was down for about a week and I totally forgot, my apologies...

I take it you don't know what "vicar" means? Look it up. It's one of Ratzinger's, and every previous pope's, official titles. I'm sure you've heard of it.

This is a sad misunderstanding of the word, "vicar".

Definition by dictionary.reference.com

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–noun 1. Church of England. a. a person acting as priest of a parish in place of the rector, or as representative of a religious community to which tithes belong. b. the priest of a parish the tithes of which are impropriated and who receives only the smaller tithes or a salary. 2. Protestant Episcopal Church. a. a member of the clergy whose sole or chief charge is a chapel dependent on the church of a parish. b. a bishop's assistant in charge of a church or mission. 3. Roman Catholic Church. an ecclesiastic representing the pope or a bishop. 4. a person who acts in place of another; substitute. 5. a person who is authorized to perform the functions of another; deputy: God's vicar on earth.
The Pope is a representative of Christ. He is NOT Christ, and he is NOT perfect. By definition, the Vicar of Christ acts in His stead until the final coming.

Yeah, Peter denying that he knew Jesus to avoid persecution is the same as sodomizing a little boy and/or using tithes to keep said pedophiles out of jail, going so far as to excommunicate(and in the idiotic mind of a catholic - damn someone to Hell) anyone who tries to seek justice for the poor kid that got his innocence taken away. They're totally on the same level.

Quite so. Peter denied Jesus three times in order to avoid persecution, but ended up being persecuted later anyway. The Church acted to avoid persecution, but ended up being persecuted later anyway. You really fail to see the similarities? Open your eyes, they stare you in the face

Now who had the greater sin? Does it matter? Are you arguing that if anyone commits a sin greater than denying Jesus three times, then all truth will cease to come from them? Are they damned right at that moment? Is that what Scripture says? Nope.

Mark 14:50 - they all left him and fled from the garden of Gethsemane
Mark 14:66-72 - Peter denied Our Lord, three times.
John 20:24-25 - Thomas refused to believe in his resurrection from the dead
Romans 3:3-4 - will their infidelity nullify the fidelity of God? No!
2 Timothy 2:13 - if we are all unfaithful, God remains faithful

News flash: one repented and was saved. One has not and continues to sin to ths day.

I can see that you see deny Sacramentorum Sanctitatis Tutela as any act of repentance. Despite that it abolished The Crimen Sollicitationis?

Well, for the sake of this thread, let's talk about this from your perspective then. Was it the Catholic Church and their teachings and doctrines and dogma that you find to be in error? Or is the acts of a small group of men within the Church? Did indeed the entire Church commit this sin? Would you say that I have sinned along with the entire body of the Catholic Community because of the sins of these men?

These men are not Adam. Their sin does not fall upon their children, not their brothers either for that matter. Would you say I sin now as I support this? That would be untrue, as I do not support abusive priests. However, I argue that the sins of the few cannot be used to judge the multitude of the faithful.

Would you say that because of our leader's sin, that our entire organization must bear no truth? Again, let us look to Scripture...

Romans 3:3-4 - will their infidelity nullify the fidelity of God? No!
2 Timothy 2:13 - if we are all unfaithful, God remains faithful

Say that the hierarchy of the Catholic Church is sinning right now at this very moment. Does that negate the truths of the Catholic Church? You say if they repented then that would be okay. So does the truth they preach become less truthful while they dwell in sin? And then when they repent, it become full truth once more?

This idea is preposterous. For the Church has never changed a doctrine or dogma, thus it has always proclaimed the same truths. It proclaimed the same Word before, during and after the inquisition, and it proclaimed the same Word before, during and after these sex scandals. Your suggestion that because of the sins of those proclaiming God's Word pollutes the Word that they proclaim is heretical, for the Word of God is perfect and unchanging.

Those who are not of Christ sin.

You see, we True Christians are beyond sinning. So purified in the blood of Christ are we that we are down right incapable of sin. You catholics are of the devil because all you do is sin.

If you cannot commit sin, as you claim with your interpretation here, how do you explain the following verses? What do they mean to you?

Matthew 10:22 - he who endures to the end will be saved
Matthew 24:13 - he who perseveres to the end will be saved
Romans 11:22 - Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off
Rev 22:19 - take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city

So the Papacy isn't infallible... but the works of the papacy are?

The Doctrines and Dogmas issued forth from the Papacy are as infallible as the Commandments of the Bible. They are equal.

Your dogma scroll must not have much ink on it. Seems like everything you guys do has nothing to do with this "dogma" of yours. How is it even your dogma if you don't even believe in it?

The Dogmas of the Catholic Church include the Marian Dogmas, Purgatory and the like. These are the infallible teachings of the Papacy.

The Holy Bible KJV1611 is our "dogma". If we, as a church, allowed gays to marry, pastors to molested our children, if our women were loose, if our children were spared spankings and if we preached evolution... how would Jesus judge us? Could we simply fall back on the idea that the Bible is infallible and therefore our church was of Christ? Of course not. Don't be absurd.

You continue to insinuate that because of the few priests involved in the sexual abuse scandal that the entire faith of the Catholic Church is rendered invalid. This friend, is absurd and unbiblical as I have showed you.

You don't have to take the blame for their sins. You've got enough of your own. Your problem is that you try to brush the blame on them and ignore your own sins.

And which of my sins would you say I ignore? I am not the one claiming to be sinless...

BULL!

I assure you that the Sacramentorum Sanctitatis Tutela is indeed not "bull" and very much brought an end to the Crimen Sollicitationis, despite what you want to believe.

If Ratzinger (or John Paul for that matter) were repentence they'd be executing those pedophile priests in the Vatican square (Leviticus 20:13). Not flying them away to Vatican City were they can't be prosecuted. Heck, they are still being protected - RIGHT THIS INSTANCE!!!! There would be a never ending stream of blood pouring forth from the vatican given all the pedophiles they'd have to execute. You'd loss at least a third of your clergy!!!

Sadly this is also untrue. As the percentage of Pedophilic priests runs at about 1%.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: Just for Remy Lebeau (Pedophillia)

Looks like our Catholic friend has given up and in doing so admitted defeat. My theory is that he killed himself due to the shame of being a pro-pedophile pagan. What a striking jolt to the system it must be to know that you have spent your life making an enemy of Christ Jesus. Hopefully, his death was slow enough to give him time to repent being a catholic and for committing suicide.