Moses Did Not Stop Working for 40 Years Because of Free Mana

[MitzaLizalor]

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And there was all the livestock. Six hundred thousand men Exodus 12:37 together with, say, two wives each makes eighteen hundred thousand. Children were present but not counted so if each wife has 2 or 3, that's

600,000 (men) × 2 (average wives)	1,200,000
1⅕ million (wives) × 2½ (children)	3,000,000
TOTAL	4,200,000

in addition to the initial 600,000 men. They are not described as having a few moth-eaten goats or pathetic herd of pygargs. Maybe a giraffe. Quite the reverse – livestock accompanying the Israelites was abundant. Egypt's fertile delta region, fed by the River Nile, is very productive land and The Israelites prevented famine during droughts through better farm management. That's why they were there in the first place, after Joseph saved the day for Pharaoh a few generations back. Another place having a similar population and excellent agricultural land is New Zealand. Sheep outnumber humans about 10 to 1 but recently cattle (dairy) have overtaken sheep and, they have large cities where there are no sheep at all. That is a good comparison, I thought.

Exodus 12:38 And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

That's "very much cattle" by Nile Delta standards so a goodish number, including sheep God would require for sacrifice after The Law was handed down, all of which would need to be kept alive. There weren't even any Levites designated at that stage – but Aaron assisted when he could be bothered to follow God's instructions.

As far as I'm aware they kept on the move with intermittent semi-permanent camp sites but would have been spread out more than a city such as Aukland. I am not sure about the latrines but there'd be plenty of manure available and the manna went rotten overnight, spontaneously generating worms. Perhaps instead of latrines Moses used worm farms?

Exodus 16:20-21

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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This whole exchange has me triggered - some people just don't read their Bible (KJV1611) to assert that Moses just sat on his posterior for 40 years.

First of all, by some estimates there were between 1.5 and 2 million whining Jews that wandered around the desert for 40 years. Sure, the Manna (God's K-rations) was "free" - but then think about the organization. The Manna had to be picked up first, and then think about all the latrines that had to be dug outside of camp to keep away disease - and then the latrines had to be periodically covered up. And then consider the menstra problems that I won't go into.

Indeed, Moses had to have the skills and workload of a Mayor of a fair sized city in today's context - and without a limo and staff to drive him around to meetings.

[Johny Joe Hold]

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Moses had the world's worst job. He somehow managed to keep tens of thousands of Jews on the righteous path of God--and we all know what complainers the Jews are! The man was a saint.

And think about what he was up against. He left to go up the mountain to chat with God. As soon as he was out of sight the Jews started worshipping idols. For 40 years he had to be on constant patrol, condemning idols that must have appeared as soon as his back was turned. He had to patrol constantly. I don't know how he did it. A free meal ticket was barely enough compensation.

[WWJDnow]

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Moses had the world's worst job. He somehow managed to keep tens of thousands of Jews on the righteous path of God--and we all know what complainers the Jews are! The man was a saint.

[MitzaLizalor]

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A new fellow at the Freehold Senior Center wanted to argue yesterday. He said Moses was a lazy bum and did not work for 40 years because God gave him free food. I was not in the mood to argue so I quickly moved on.

It is simply not true that Moses loafed for 40 years because God gave him and his people free meals. It is true they did not have to work for 40 years but this was not socialism. The 40 years of free food was a reward from God to Moses for guiding God's people out of Egypt. It was a win-win business deal.

Some People! What exactly do they think Moses' job was? Bricklayer? Seamstress? Train driver? These are the same morons who say that Pastors don't do anything except charge people to hear whatever it is they're paying to hear (otherwise they'd go somewhere else and pay them instead) whereas, in reality, Pastors (and Moses) have the most important job description there is!

First of all, God had to get His Chosen People to arrive at His Holy Mountain in time to receive The Ten Commandments – otherwise how would they know right from wrong? Left to their own devices they could have turned up at any old mountain and received laws from devils.

I Corinthians 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

Then they had to find The Promised Land. Imagine if they'd taken a wrong turn and finished up in The Yemen or Djibouti? Idols everywhere to this day! Quaffing away at the cup of devils, goodness only knows what temple rites they'd dream up, blasted forever. And God all alone on the correct mountain: “Where are they? Where my people gone?” so sad. Even now, although Redeemed, we are subject to devilish attack (futile attacks, admittedly) but before accepting Christ what guidance did we have? The guidance of Pastors to make sure we understood just as Maose made sure, all those years ago.

[Johny Joe Hold]

A new fellow at the Freehold Senior Center wanted to argue yesterday. He said Moses was a lazy bum and did not work for 40 years because God gave him free food. I was not in the mood to argue so I quickly moved on.

It is simply not true that Moses loafed for 40 years because God gave him and his people free meals. It is true they did not have to work for 40 years but this was not socialism. The 40 years of free food was a reward from God to Moses for guiding God's people out of Egypt. It was a win-win business deal.