[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

For any German to say Hitler did anything great with his life is severely misguided.

For any German to say that Anne Franklestien did anything great with her joo life is even worse.

At least Hitler invented the Volkswagon. What did Anne Frank invent?

[Jarpen]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

^^^ Great point

[secondtimesthecharm]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

It's funny to see how brainwashed all of you have been since birth. Regardless of what Hitler did and what Anne Frank had to survive through is on an incomparable plane. If your parents and you were hiding from a genocide, I guarantee they would undoubtedly refuse to eat and give you all of their food in attempt to prevent YOU from starvation. I can bet money today that Anne Frank never stole a crumb of food but her parents refused to eat until she ate at least more than half of their meals.

Lastly, Hitler didn't self-discover all of those things mentioned. As a fellow German and European, you'd have to be insanely naive to even make that point. Yes, Hitler was a literal artist, a painter, and encouraged the autobahn but Hitler only funded it with the peoples money. For any German to say Hitler did anything great with his life is severely misguided.

[A Follower]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

I have seldom seen so much ignorance, stupidity and hatred all contained in a single person. Son, you would do well to fix these traits of yours, they are not to your advantage.

Nazi Germany is still responsible for those deaths.

Really? Germany is responsible for those deaths? How do you figure that? Hitler was Austrian, all alleged extermination camps (Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, Chelmno and Majdanek) were located in Poland, and Germany only became tangibly involved in the alleged killings once Poland joined the German-Austrian union, a union led by an Austrian, in other words, Austria was the leading partner and all Poles are vicious murderers. To blame Germany for any of what may have happened is simply disingenuous.

1. "disease which was ravaging Europe" Jews put into concentration or work camps were provided with little to no medical care resulting in death from disease.

Again a collection of false and misleading statements, if, as you say, Jews were generally sent to camps then a proportionate number of doctors would be included in that, no less than in the general population, so access to medical personnel cannot have been the cause of either the disease or the fatal ending.

What actually happened is that doctors or medicine are in no way related to the curing of a disease, only God's will can cause and end sickness, and only through prayer may a person attempt to affect His will. Due to Jews being the enemy of God, He obviously doesn't listen to them, while a Christian praying for health will often have his wish granted. Just look at the Western world where there are many more Christians than in say Somalia or Haiti, and compare how many people die early in their lives of disease.

2. "starvation" Jews put into concentration or work camps were also not provided with enough food.

While it may be true that some Jews were put on a somewhat restricted diet, that was only because they were fat, and for health and public safety reasons they were put on a diet.

Second, many historical sources indicate that guards could be bribed with food or cigarettes, indicating that the prisoners had more food than they needed for survival while the Polish/Austrian guards had to make do with what they could beg from the prisoners. Again more proof that the Jews were in no way treated any different from others, unless they were given privileges far beyond what was available to the common soldier.

And please be aware that socialist British bombed railroads stopping food distribution and killing Jews who were being transported to safer places on trains.

3. "Overwork" obviously because of strict work camp policies.

Hardly, according to testimony most of the day was spent waiting for the roll calls to be completed, and even if they worked long hours, there are many Americans today who work two jobs (that's 16 hours a day!), and they don't drop dead.

4. "Suicide" I'll accept this as fact however mass suicide alone could not have even caused 1% of the deaths of the holocaust.

Oh, and why not? Do you have any sort of evidence for your statements or are you simply blind for the Truth?

5. "Animal Attacks" Not really... Very few hostile animals live in Germany and its previously occupied territory.

Wolves live in Germany. Bears live in the previously occupied territories. Even bees can be lethal and are common in all of Europe.

6 "Spontaneous Human Combustion" Is an extremely rare occurrence. It is highly unlikely that more than 100 people were killed by Spontaneous Combustion during WWII.

And again you make statements directly contrary to the evidence, a lot of ash has been found at extermination camps, it is even rumored that due to the rate of spontaneous human combustion it was necessary to use the ashes to make soap.

That's a valid point... However, the Nazis that we killed and the Russians that the Nazis killed were victims of war all soldiers who were willing to die for their country. The Jews that the Nazis murdered were innocent civilians that fell victim unprecedented strike against a minority group for no apparent reason at all.

How ignorant are you? Both in the Third Empire and in Russia there was a draft, people didn't choose to become soldiers, they were forced to be, they had no more choice in getting killed than the Jews allegedly did.

And your second argument that Jews are somehow innocent is even more ridiculous, the Bible clearly quotes the Jews as collectively accepting responsibility for murdering Jesus, and not just once, but it is described in all four gospels, that is four independent witnesses who all testify identically.

Matthew 27:23-25
23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

No idea to be honest... Maybe there are Russian movies on it... ????

And maybe there aren't. Why would you even bother responding when even you admit you are completely clueless?

The lives of "commies" as you call them are worth no less than your life is worth. All human life is sacred no matter what their religious or political views are.

I am glad you admit that all human life is sacred, in whatever form it may be, even embryonic. And I find it encouraging you use the word "sacred", it shows that you derive the value of human life from a religious text, which can obviously only be the Bible, as other religions like Islam are more about committing terrorist acts than about doing good and getting into Heaven. And once you accept the Bible as the authoritative source of when and how human life is sacred, than you must also agree with the Bible and God that God-mockers deserve only death followed by eternal agony. It is after all the first commandment to have no god but God, worshiping anything else is punishable by death, as the nazis rightfully administered to the commies.

Not sure if they suffered the least however your argument shows that they did not suffer the most

Finally agreement, the Jews clearly did not suffer the most, so all their whining and playing the victim are nothing but emotional blackmail based on lies and falsehoods, something that needs to be rebuked whenever encountered.


So now you've been confronted with all the gaps in your knowledge, the outright falsehoods you seem to believe and the unfounded hatred you display towards Germans, I urge you to consider whether you are as ignorant and hateful in other areas of your supposed knowledge and actions. Have you ever considered that God might help you overcome your deficiencies? He is after all all-powerful, and accepting His Son as your Lord and Savior will help you lead a much improved life, one not based on lies, but one based on the eternal truth of God and safe in the knowledge of eternal life in Heaven.

And one final and very important thing, one always conveniently ignored by hateful liberals and Jew-lovers around the world: Hitler was never charged with murder of even one Jew, let alone convicted, therefor innocent in the eyes of the law. It would be considerate if you acknowledged that and stopped speaking ill of the dead.

[Jarpen]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

I would like to point out that Bobby-Joe was giving you the benefit of the doubt, for the sake of your argument, of even assuming six million Jews died in the Holo-hoax. A careful, scrutinizing look at history reveals a far less imposing number. Most of the so-called "victims" of the Holo-hoax were not done in by the hands of the SS, but out of disease which was ravaging Europe, starvation, overwork, suicide because they were living in a warzone, animal attacks, spontaneous human combustion, and other reasons.

Nazi Germany is still responsible for those deaths.

1. "disease which was ravaging Europe" Jews put into concentration or work camps were provided with little to no medical care resulting in death from disease.

2. "starvation" Jews put into concentration or work camps were also not provided with enough food.

3. "Overwork" obviously because of strict work camp policies.

4. "Suicide" I'll accept this as fact however mass suicide alone could not have even caused 1% of the deaths of the holocaust.

5. "Animal Attacks" Not really... Very few hostile animals live in Germany and its previously occupied territory.

6 "Spontaneous Human Combustion" Is an extremely rare occurrence. It is highly unlikely that more than 100 people were killed by Spontaneous Combustion during WWII.

When you get right down to it, the Nazis only intentionally killed a few hundred Jews...when you look at the millions of Russians the Nazis intentionally killed, or the millions of Nazis that we killed, suddenly it doesn't seem so horrific after all.

That's a valid point... However, the Nazis that we killed and the Russians that the Nazis killed were victims of war all soldiers who were willing to die for their country. The Jews that the Nazis murdered were innocent civilians that fell victim unprecedented strike against a minority group for no apparent reason at all.

But, where are the museums and Oscar-winning dramas against the commies that Hitler slaughtered in Stalingrad?

No idea to be honest... Maybe there are Russian movies on it... ????

I mean, okay, I know they're commies so they're worthless to begin with,

The lives of "commies" as you call them are worth no less than your life is worth. All human life is sacred no matter what their religious or political views are.

but I'm sure you can see my point: The Jews suffered the least among people during World War II.

Not sure if they suffered the least however your argument shows that they did not suffer the most

[Humongous]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

well, i heard that annie frank had to hide up in the attic for weeks on end on account of she didn't want to go to Summer camp? That musta been right uncomfortable, and kinda rude to the camp councilors what was trying to pick her up?

Kinda reminded me of the time I had to squeeze into my trailers crawl space, on account of I was trying to root out a family of opossum what took up residence there? Well after much fussin' and biting I got them out, but I didn't take them to no SUmmer camp, I put them in a burlap satchel, and drowned them in the bog.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

I would like to point out that Bobby-Joe was giving you the benefit of the doubt, for the sake of your argument, of even assuming six million Jews died in the Holo-hoax. A careful, scrutinizing look at history reveals a far less imposing number. Most of the so-called "victims" of the Holo-hoax were not done in by the hands of the SS, but out of disease which was ravaging Europe, starvation, overwork, suicide because they were living in a warzone, animal attacks, spontaneous human combustion, and other reasons.

When you get right down to it, the Nazis only intentionally killed a few hundred Jews...when you look at the millions of Russians the Nazis intentionally killed, or the millions of Nazis that we killed, suddenly it doesn't seem so horrific after all.

But, where are the museums and Oscar-winning dramas against the commies that Hitler slaughtered in Stalingrad? I mean, okay, I know they're commies so they're worthless to begin with, but I'm sure you can see my point: The Jews suffered the least among people during World War II.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

You are calling me a sinner even though we have never met and you know nothing about me.

Mathew 7:1, "Judge not that ye be not judged

Are you a TRUE Christian(tm)? No! If you were a TRUE Christian(tm) you would all ready know what ALL of God's law is.

Like this

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

that's Jesus talking friend. Try to be more like Him please, He died for your sins.

[Jarpen]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

Read the ALL of the Law sinner

You are calling me a sinner even though we have never met and you know nothing about me.

Mathew 7:1, "Judge not that ye be not judged

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

You forgot something :O

Hitler:

--------------------------------------------- murdered around 6 million innocent people

In direct violation of the 6th commandment.

Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Read the ALL of the Law sinner

This what God orders in His Holy Law to be done to unbelievers.

Deuteronomy 13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

And The Law makers it clearly over and over again sinners kill themselves.

Yes, six million people were murdered - but they all murdered themselves by rejecting Jesus and turning to the previsions of Communism, Homosexuality, Socialism and so forth.

[Jarpen]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

You forgot something :O

Hitler:

--------------------------------------------- murdered around 6 million innocent people

In direct violation of the 6th commandment.

Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

Between black and white are various shades of gray.

And an electrified fence.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

If you are a Christian then you must beleive that God will burn jews for eternity. Anne Frank will be screaming in the presence of the Lamb forever. Why is a few minutes in a nazi oven such an issue??

YiC

Jack

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

Anne Frank being considered a worse person than Hitler?! Could probably go to Hell for thinking that.

I know, some people are really misguided for considering. It is obvious that Anne Frank is a worse person.

[HwangPasta]

Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

I don't even know what to say about this thread. I really don't.

Anne Frank being considered a worse person than Hitler?! Could probably go to Hell for thinking that.

Lol. Thank goodness I am Atheist.

Oh, and nice emoticons, site creators. Very unique. The watermelon one is just priceless. Lmfao. I need to share this site on FB for anyone looking for a good laugh.