[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

The Bible doesn't teach us about cars and computers. They didn't exist back then, duh.

Indeed, and a valid point. Similarly, Doppler Spectroscopy and such didn't exist back in the day.

Quick question, is it possible I can edit my posts?

[Mindlessness]

Re: Other Planets?

The Bible doesn't teach us about cars and computers. They didn't exist back then, duh.

Yes but by the logic of Brother Percy that would make cars and computers satanic.

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

You saw he say the clouds of this 'Jupiter' planet? How come you can't see the clouds?

Ah but I did,

For Jupiter, I can see the equatorial zones and bands, which show up as brighter or darker lines going across the surface of the planet horizontally.

Jupiter is a completely different sort of planet than Earth. It's clouds simply run horizotnally across the planet due to a rapid rotation of the planet itself.

Did Galileo have better technology than we do today?

No, thankfully, lololol.

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

But Brother tell me where it teaches about cars and computers in the Bible. Your only saying that because he has disproved your argument.

The Bible doesn't teach us about cars and computers. They didn't exist back then, duh.

[Mindlessness]

Re: Other Planets?

But Brother tell me where it teaches about cars and computers in the Bible. Your only saying that because he has disproved your argument.

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

Gothika,

Your descriptions of what you can see don't sound like what we're told Galileo saw. You saw he say the clouds of this 'Jupiter' planet? How come you can't see the clouds?

Did Galileo have better technology than we do today?

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

OK then, show me where in the Bible it teaches about using Doppler spectroscopy, photometry, and gravitational microlensing?

The Bible does not mention these methods. They weren't invented back then. The Bible isn't supposed to be a book that describes everything in the universe, rather, it's to show us what kind of lives to lead, it's to bring the Word of Truth, educate us about the Salvation that Christ brought to us.

Going off into an astrophysics lecture would be getting off-topic =P.

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Other Planets?

I mean seriously, Brother Percy, the whole entirety of your response was nothing more than an uneducated attack. That doesn't win souls to Christ, that pushes them away.

OK then, show me where in the Bible it teaches about using Doppler spectroscopy, photometry, and gravitational microlensing?

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

Forgive the double-post, a new response arrived before I had finished writing my previous post.

Okay, so you claim to have a telescope and have allegedly taken it apart and put it back together. Did you inspect all of the little pieces and thingamabobs in it? What size is the telescope? How much detail on the 'planets' are you actually able to 'see?'

I didn't inspect everything. I know where one would place a something to display an image. It would have to be between the object I'm looking at and the eyepeice. (How this object can "go away" when the telescope is pointing away is something that I don't have figured out yet, lolol).

Being as the objective is misaligned slightly, everything I see through the telescope is slightly shifted. The only place where this "computer" could be then is somewhere between the objective and the secondary mirror (which channels the light from the objective into the eyepeice), and the eyepeice itself. I have indeed looked into this part of the telescope.

The telescope is a 14 cm reflector. For Mercury, I see nothing but a hazy dot (Mercury is always low in the horizon when visible, and atmospheric effects distort it a lot). For Venus, it's all solidly one colour, but I can make out the phases (i.e. a "crescent Venus"). I can see Earth pretty well . For Mars, I've made out some dark (comparatively) feature on it's surface, which I never did find out what it was, as well as what I think was the southern ice cap. For Jupiter, I can see the equatorial zones and bands, which show up as brighter or darker lines going across the surface of the planet horizontally. Furthermore, I can see four moons of Jupiter, which were discovered by Galileo in the 1600's. (sometimes I can't see all four, as the moons sometimes go behind Jupiter or in front of it). For Saturn, I cannot make out any surface features, which is unsurprising, as Saturn doesn't really have any visible ones unless you're up close (i.e. the Cassini Spacecraft). I can see Saturn's moon Titan, and on exceptionally dark nights, the moon Rhea. I have never attempted to find Uranus or Neptune through the telescope.

In October of 2007, a comet broke up releasing a lot of matter into space and appeared as an expanding comet for a month or two. This occurred after I bought the telescope, so if a computer in there truly was trying to deceive me, it wouldn't be able to as it was completely unaware of the existence of the comet. The telescope revealed detail about the comet's debris cloud, which appeared like a semi-faint circular feature, with a bright dot at the centre.

[Mindlessness]

Re: Other Planets?

You are a learned citizen friend, you have made a very good point, i mean i don't understand how a light bulb works or how computers work, are they evil? no do many people on Landover know exsactly how a computer or a DVD work? no but that does not mean they are evil and satanic, i'm confident that everyone has used and have a computer or a DVD player.

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

Gothika,

Are you ignoring my previous question to you above because you don't have an answer, or did you simply miss it?

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

We are more than happy to insult, berate, intimidate, beat, torture, or kill as needed to save souls

My my what a load of fancy-sounding big-words you use there.... sounds just like Alchemy, Devil worship, Black Magic and Satanic mumbo-jumbo to me.

This is what I mean. You simply attack. You do not care what it is you attack, you simply attack it.

I don't see how studying light from other stars is devil worship.

I choose to think about it like this:
God made the universe.
We try to understand His universe.
We try to understand God's creation.

I can't speak for God of course, and would not attempt to, but if I made something vastly complex, I would be happy if others try to figure it out. It gives me a sense of accomplishment.

Just because you don't know something about a topic doesn't make it evil.

I agree 100%.

I don't understand Marine Biology too well. But I know it isn't evil.


Try this.
God made the universe, and he made the physics that run it. He made the universe work in a consistent mannor. God is perfect, he's not going to make the universe inconsistent. God made it to where the sky is blue, the grass is green, water is clear, light travels at a constant speed, gravity holds us to the Earth, and all of that.

Let's take photometry.
It's where you simply watch the light of a star for a long while.

Yeah that's it, just looking at light.
"Photo" meaning "light", and "metry" being to measure.

Does looking at light sound like Devil worship, Black Magic, and Satanic mumbo-jumbo to you?

In your overwhelming urge to attack that which you don't understand, you present yourself, and this website, in a mannor that is repulsive to people who need to be saved.

I mean seriously, Brother Percy, the whole entirety of your response was nothing more than an uneducated attack. That doesn't win souls to Christ, that pushes them away.

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

Gothika,

Most scientists who aren't Christian are people who've become angry at our LORD and want to try to convince themselves and others that He doesn't exist. They do not want to be held accountable to Him.

Okay, so you claim to have a telescope and have allegedly taken it apart and put it back together. Did you inspect all of the little pieces and thingamabobs in it? What size is the telescope? How much detail on the 'planets' are you actually able to 'see?'

What we know about folks like Galileo comes from secular scientists and historians. Why should believe them?

[Mindlessness]

Re: Other Planets?

Just because you don't know something about a topic doesn't make it evil.

[Bob Kaare]

Re: Other Planets?

My my what a load of fancy-sounding big-words you use there.... sounds just like Alchemy, Devil worship, Black Magic and Satanic mumbo-jumbo to me.

Hahaha!
I figured you guys would come up with a response like that!
btw, i can't take you seriously. I am convinced that this is all a joke.
you've provided some good laughs the last few days