[Elmer G. White]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

• Where’s the video of god creating the earth and its creatures?

Glory!

It is available:

...but, ultimately, unnecessary. The True ™ nature of the Bible has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Therefore we can trust the eyewitnesses who gave their testimonials immediately after the bursting act of Creation!

PRAISE GOD!

Genesis 2:4
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were CREATED , in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.

There it is. The proof! You do understand that it can be found in the infallible Bible? I'm sure this will convince you. Embrace Jesus and be Saved!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[A smart ass named luke]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

So...the post with this video said to take notes....I did something close to that, I wrote down my thoughts as I watched the video (these are in order and refute each of her points).

• Evolution is branching...not a linear path it is possible for one type of thing to keep its characteristics if it suits its need to survive that way there can still be single celled organisms if all life started off as single celled beings.
  
• So a because Darwin created his theory a hundred years ago and that makes it too old to be considered fact then you’re also saying the bible can’t be considered fact because it is twenty times older than Darwin’s theory.
  
• We know how fossils are made….you can easily make some of your own if you need proof.
  
• Never going to discover all of the ocean floors eh? Well we still have another two billions years to so don’t rule that out just yet
  
• Science never says anything is “For sure” but in cases like this one we can see a make a polished estimate on when because of Geographic data
  
• “just a fairy tale” I could say the same thing about everything in the bible
  
• Again we know that soils formed because of Geographic data
  
• You wanna see the evidence of prehistoric plants….go look at plant fossils from the period (and don’t tell me that not evidence you said it yourself that fossils were)
  
• Well we know that it was green algae because that reason it evolved was because it contained Chlorophyll a substance used in the process of Photosynthesis that turn plants green.
  
• There a millions of building used to teach religion, something no one understands but is still taught in those institutions
  
• Where’s the video of god creating the earth and its creatures
  
• Oh were you paying attention ten minutes ago when you talked about single cells…that’s where those plants came from
  
• But not fossils of REAL plants that REALLY existed…because it would disprove your point.
  
• Well we didn’t see them take their first steps but we found the first fossils on land from around that time and from there worked out that was when they would of come and started to live on land
  
• No but I’ll use the case of the Axolotl here…it is a fish that fins became feet and it uses those feet on the lake…or pond bed, sooo if fish can have legs and still be fish then they can become amphibians…who live in water and on land but primary food source comes from the water….so they never needed to lose their water living skills.
  
• “Dumbest theory” you really need to read some more theories.
  
• Because all life forms are incredibly complex…and even with our knowledge today we still have no idea to how to recreate it as a machine.
  
• An accident shaped by circumstances (and chaos theory)
  
• If a the skull of a dinosaur is named after a dragon, and therefore it IS a dragon…then that would mean that all of the dinosaurs named after the palaeontologists (or just people) who discovered them…then does that mean most dinosaurs actually people.
  
• The correct names for someone who digs up dinosaur bones is a Palaeontologist.
  
• Just because you didn’t know about something doesn’t mean it’s being covered up.
  
• So you say those cave painting where from France and were of stegosauruses…sorry to inform you but Stegosauruses only lived in North America mostly in states such as Utah.
  
• If those gaps were filled would cement it not “prove” it and plenty of evidence exists of all of the stages in human evolution.
  
• Neanderthals had more than big foreheads…for one they were bigger in overall size and therefore needed more food…this played a key role in their extinction.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

It turns out that the liberal drive-by media is out to get this god-fearing girl. Which proves once again that we Christians are right because we are persecuted.

Science-hating homeschool mom sued for defamation in ongoing library porn flap

A conservative blogger and homeschooling mom whose video tour of a science museum went viral is being sued by an Illinois librarian as part of an ongoing dispute over Internet pornography.

Megan Fox, a blogger for PJ Media and YouTube commentator, has aggressively campaigned for more than a year to change library policies in Orland Park after she and an associate claimed they saw men viewing porn at the public library.

She and Kevin DuJan — who promotes conspiracy theories about President Barack Obama’s birthplace, drug use, and sexual history — have filed hundreds of Freedom of Information Act requests on library policies and employees.

They have also filed at least 34 complaints with the Illinois attorney general alleging transparency law violations by library staffers.

Fox and DuJan have written numerous blog and social media posts and posted videos of themselves hounding library employees for information.

All of this has cost the suburban Chicago library more than $125,000 in legal fees and keeps two library employees busy for about 35 hours a week, according to spokeswoman Bridget Bittman – a primary target for criticism by the conservative pair.

Bittman, the library marketing and public relations coordinator, has sued Fox, DuJan, two other associates — Dan Kleinman and Adam Andrzejewski – and the activist organization For the Good of Illinois last month in U.S. District Court.

She claims the plaintiffs – none of whom live in Orland Park – have made numerous and intentionally defamatory statements about her as part of their efforts to limit access to pornography at the public library.

Fox apparently found a photo online through a Google image search of Bittman holding a bottle of Champagne, which she posted on her own Facebook page and suggested that she drank alcohol while engaged in work duties at the library.

The conservative activist also posted a video in July on her YouTube channel alleging that police had accused Bittman of disorderly conduct and breach of peace, and other claims the library employee described as false.

The suit claims DuJan filed a complaint against Bittman related to those charges, but police found no evidence to support his claims.

“BREAKING! Video of Bridget Bittman committing Disorderly Conduct/Breach of Peace on 7/8/14. The police have issued her a citation under Ordinance 2989 8-6-1-1,” read a caption to the video. “Remember that Bridget Bittman is not only the spokesman for the Orland Park Public Library (which makes her a public employee) . . . And this is how she behaves herself in public. Trying to start a fight, brandishing some kind of weapon in her hand (mace? pepper spray?), using anti-gay slurs . . . Should a public employee like Bridget Bittman be allowed to keep her $100,000/year job after behaving this way in public and committing disorderly conduct?”

The video was later shared by Andrzejewski on his Illinois Family Institute website and by Kleinman on his Safe Libraries blog, according to the suit.

Fox and DuJan also set up a phony Facebook page, Sassy Plants Illinois, intended to harm the reputation of Bittman and the floral business she operates, the suit claims.

Many of the posts insult residents of neighboring New Lenox, Illinois, along with various inscrutable comments about plants and celebrities.

“Birds are not dinosaurs,” reads one post. “The sign lies. Birds are birds. Duh. Dinosaurs were dinosaurs. The Sally Field Museum can’t be believed on everything, unlike the real Sally Field who seems generally pretty honest.”

Bittman claims Fox and DuJan shared her personal information, including her home address, on the phony Facebook page and their own social media pages.

The suit, which alleges violations of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and the Stored Communications Act, seeks compensatory and punitive damages from Fox, DuJan, and their associates.

Watch Fox discuss her ongoing issues with the library in this video she posted online:

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

This has been truly eye-opening for me. I just want to congratulate everyone posting on this forum, I always feel lost in this satan ruled world... I hope I can convince some of the unbelievers who haven't seen the light yet about these great arguments.

Hope you all a great and religious weekend.

Praise God, praise Jesus, pray *** removed advertisement for soccer *** (the best place to pray and follow your convictions in Portugal).

We're here for Scripture, not soccer.



How about making a thread of your own in the Introduction Forum telling us all about your walk with Jesus? We want to get to know you!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[SoalheiraMan]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

This has been truly eye-opening for me. I just want to congratulate everyone posting on this forum, I always feel lost in this satan ruled world... I hope I can convince some of the unbelievers who haven't seen the light yet about these great arguments.

Hope you all a great and religious weekend.

Praise God, praise Jesus, pray *** removed advertisement for soccer *** (the best place to pray and follow your convictions in Portugal).

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

Dear Sinner,

Your actual “scientific” claims have been refuted numerous times here in our Godly Forum and also in this thread by our beloved Pastor Ezekiel. Thus, I will waste no time on them. Instead, I concentrate on your emotional argumentation and fallacies that – typical to atheists – form a large part of their writings as they have in advance decided to dismiss all that is pure, Godly and Sacred.

Common sense says: if we see small changes today within species, that small changes over a long time will become large changes. Walking for a minute gets you across the street. Walking for a year gets you across a continent. When people say "macroevolution is false because we've never seen it in our lifetimes", that's like saying "walking across a continent is impossible because we've never seen someone do it in a day." A LOT can happen in a million years.

This is a common fallacy, an appeal to “rationality”. At the same time, you are referring to “common sense”, i.e., that most “normal” people agree with you (also an ad populum fallacy). Truth is independent of majorities or sensibilities. Thus, this section is fallacious and can be dismissed.

Another outright lie... Nice readable document… Powerful video on "transitional species denial" by creationists, and how utterly ridiculous it is

Lots of loaded words (that is a fallacy per se). Christians™ are associated (= guilt by association) to liars, whereas atheist evolutionists are associated to the adjectives “nice” and “powerful”. And to make things even more emotional, there is the appeal to ridicule (= ad ridiculum). Fallacious arguments. We’ll have to dismiss these, as well. We also now that we are few and weak. That is exactly as predicted by the Bible:

1 Corinthians 15:43
It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

We are strong in weakness. And, as you can see, Creation science does make predictions. The demise of True Faith™ was predicted in the 1st Epistle to Corinthians and it has turned out to be True!

The paleontologist and Pentecostal preacher Robert Bakker predicted (based on evolutionary theory) that we'd find feathered dinosaurs, and sure enough, we did!

Appeal to authority! And an authority that has nothing to do with Christianity. Dismissed

…Evolution deniers claim there are hundreds of scientists that reject evolution. First, this is false - the names on the list have been researched and only a tiny fraction actually deny evolution. And for every name on the list, there are 100 scientists in the US alone that support evolution. There IS NO DEBATE about evolution among scientists in the natural sciences. Only religious fundamentalists who also happen to have science degrees disagree with the concept of common descent. Fortunately, you don't have to surrender faith to accept evolution. Here are 12,000 enlightened Christian clergy who accept evolution as a foundational truth of our origins

Again, an appeal to numbers. We are well aware that the number of proponents does not matter: the Truth™ matters! If we chose to follow majorities, we’d all be Catholics and there would be no Christians anywhere. Dismissed.

Matthew 20:16
So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Again, an exact prediction in the Bible that has been fulfilled much better than atheist hypotheses.


Fortunately, it is not too late for you. We are here to help you. Please, embrace the love of Jesus and enter His bosom with in in heaven!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

[AtheistPolesmoker]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

This is a fact: you ARE the product of evolution from earlier forms. Consider the evidence:

Evolution is a model built upon proven facts. People will respond by saying it is "Only a Theory", but they don't understand (or refuse to accept) that a scientific theory is a model supported by many facts that nobody has yet disproved. Other scientific theories include: the theory of relativity, the germ theory of disease, and tectonic plate theory - all are scientific "theories", and we can reliably bet our lives on them every day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory#Science

To be considered scientific, a theory must be based on ideas that are "falsifiable". Here are MANY ways you could falsify the basic concepts of evolution, but it is not proved false because... it's TRUE. Follow the links, read the citations, this is all real science backed by real evidence.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

Common sense says: if we see small changes today within species, that small changes over a long time will become large changes. Walking for a minute gets you across the street. Walking for a year gets you across a continent. When people say "macroevolution is false because we've never seen it in our lifetimes", that's like saying "walking across a continent is impossible because we've never seen someone do it in a day." A LOT can happen in a million years.

Paleontology and the fossil record completely support evolution. The theory of evolution even predicts some fossils before we find them. Any good scientific theory makes many predictions. Here's a good example of a prediction made by evolution that then came true:

http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/searching4Tik.html

People will say there are no transitional species. Another outright lie.

An exhaustive (and exhausting) list of text descriptions of transitional fossils between many different major classes of vertebrates:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

Nice readable document about the fossil evidence of continuous transformations from one species to the next:

http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/c.bkgrnd.html

Powerful video on "transitional species denial" by creationists, and how utterly ridiculous it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfoje7jVJpU&feature=PlayList&p=258CAE2F4546AA95&index=8

The paleontologist and Pentecostal preacher Robert Bakker predicted (based on evolutionary theory) that we'd find feathered dinosaurs, and sure enough, we did!

Geology supports evolution - we NEVER find fossils from one age embedded in the rock from a different age.
Genetics supports evolution 100%. In fact, genetics provided the mechanism of inheritance that Darwin predicted MUST be present. Another successful prediction courtesy of the Theory of Evolution.

If evolution is true, then we'd expect humans to share some genes with mushrooms, lots of genes with fish and most genes with primates. And guess what - they do!

Molecular biology (when you understand it) provides the strongest evidence that all life comes from common ancestors. Listen to the Evolution 101 podcast for a methodical, several-hour explanation of how the evidence from DNA at the molecular level provides overwhelming evidence of common descent.

Evolution can be seen happening today, in nature and in labs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/sc...in&oref=slogin

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080417112433.htm

This example even ADDED information (through gene duplication), something many evolution-deniers say is impossible:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/15/8/931


Evolution deniers claim there are hundreds of scientists that reject evolution. First, this is false - the names on the list have been researched and only a tiny fraction actually deny evolution. And for every name on the list, there are 100 scientists in the US alone that support evolution. There IS NO DEBATE about evolution among scientists in the natural sciences. Only religious fundamentalists who also happen to have science degrees disagree with the concept of common descent.

Fortunately, you don't have to surrender faith to accept evolution. Here are 12,000 enlightened Christian clergy who accept evolution as a foundational truth of our origins:

http://www.butler.edu/clergyproject/Christian_Clergy/ChrClergyLtr.htm

If you would like more information, or explanations of any of this, please write.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

She would get triple owned by Lawrence Krauss. Love it how she thinks she is smart.

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Smarter than you, sinner!

[Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

She would get triple owned by Lawrence Krauss. Love it how she thinks she is smart.

She is smart! It's a wise woman who can see past the lies of the secular world and realize the utter truth of the Bible! Maybe if you read it, you'd agree. It's not that hard to see the beauty of the Bible. Repent!

[BecauseIPolack (On Moderation)]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

She would get triple owned by Lawrence Krauss. Love it how she thinks she is smart.

[Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

Wow! Her husband, father, and pastors have taught her well! I pray that the museum works and complies with her Biblical knowledge!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

I can do no better than quote a True Christian:

"The Media is ruled by Satan. But yet I wonder if many Christians fully understand that. Also, will they believe what the Media says, considering that its aim is to steal, kill, and destroy? Sex education classes in our public schools are promoting incest. Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it...Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory."

(Jimmy Swaggart (Jimmy Swaggart Ministries))

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Watch a Home Schooled Christian Girl Destroy Evolution

As we can see, the only way to make sure children aren't sent to Hell by the evilutionists is to close all the schools and start again with Christian education.