[Elizabeth]

Re: Problems with Evolution

I'll show you some unbiblical evidence for Creation when you show me some unscientific evidence for evilution.

Okay.

Let's say you breed rabbits. Some are white, and some are spotted. Let's say you like the spotted ones the best, because they sell better or because they are prettier or whatever. Now, I'm sure you have noticed how children look like their parents. If you have ever seen a litter of puppies, you have probably noticed that most of them look like their parents. The same is true for rabbits and all living creatures. Let's assume you kept your male and female rabbits separated and had full control over their breeding. If you wanted to make more spotted rabbits, obviously the most effective way to do so would be to breed only the spotted rabbits. Wouldn't you agree that you would have more spotted rabbits after breeding only the spotted rabbits? Keep doing this for several years and soon you would have only spotted rabbits.

If you want to take humans out of the picture, imagine instead there are some wolves who eats the rabbits. Since the spotted rabbits are best camouflaged, the wolves will eat mostly white rabbits, and so the spotted ones will live longer and make more babies. In either instance, more spotted rabbits are produced.

That, my friend, is evolution. Now exactly what part of this scenario do you not believe?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Problems with Evolution

First law of thermodynamics: matter is neither created nor destroyed.

Oh yes? Very believable! Who Created the Earth? God! How did He do it? From nothing – He just said, “Let there be…” and there was. So much for your science.

The dung doesn't accumulate because it the matter it is composed of is converted to different forms.

You have just said, “matter is neither created nor destroyed” Make up your mind.[…unbiblical stuff deleted]

[Karl Marx Reborne]

Re: Problems with Evolution

You were just making fun of her and just because I poked fun at what she said I get repremanded

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Problems with Evolution

I've told you my problem with God's creation. The only proof is in the Bible, and the only proof of the Bible is that it was written by God. It is a circular argument. Science has a lot more evidence behind it than a book that was supposedly written by God.

I'll show you some unbiblical evidence for Creation when you show me some unscientific evidence for evilution.

Going back and forth between the Bible and science isn't going to get us anywhere.

True. So you should stick with the Bible, which will get you into Heaven.

Think about it there is dinosaurs floating alllll arrrouunnndddd yyyyooouuuu

Are you on the drugs, friend? Jesus can provide a satisfaction far beyond the fleeting pleasures of the special K pipes. Choose life!

[Karl Marx Reborne]

Re: Problems with Evolution

Think about it there is dinosaurs floating alllll arrrouunnndddd yyyyooouuuu

[Elizabeth]

Re: Problems with Evolution

Let us consider if only 1% of the dung survives over the period of 3.5 billion years that is a lot of dung.

Were is the shit here Elizabeth?

First law of thermodynamics: matter is neither created nor destroyed. The dung doesn't accumulate because it the matter it is composed of is converted to different forms. Most of it decays and the organic matter is incorporated into other life forms. The small percentage that becomes fossilized turns into rock, which can be eroded by water, destroyed or changed by volcanic activity, buried under sediment, moved by plate tectonics, etc. The Earth is constantly changing, and stuff doesn't just pile up for millions of years. If that were the case, the amount of matter on Earth would be constantly increasing, and there would be a lot of shit even if the Earth were 6000 years old.

Also, corpolites would only be produced by relatively large land animals, which didn't evolve until much later than 3.5 billion years ago.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Problems with Evolution

Um, no. First of all, not all animal dung becomes fossilized. Certain conditions have to exist for fossils to form. Second, these fossils don't necessarily have to last forever. They can be destroyed by various geologic processes.

Let us consider if only 1% of the dung survives over the period of 3.5 billion years that is a lot of dung.

Were is the shit here Elizabeth?

[Elizabeth]

Re: Problems with Evolution

Evilutionist,

Tell me your problems with God's Creation. I want to prove you wrong.

I will not accept "Because it's unscientific" because I will ask how you know science is correct and you will say because it's scientifically verifiable and I will ask how you know the scientific method works and you will say because it's scientific...and then God will get bored of you being a heathen and send you to Hell, and we won't get anywhere.

Show me the holes you find in the Bible and I will show you why you are wrong.

I've told you my problem with God's creation. The only proof is in the Bible, and the only proof of the Bible is that it was written by God. It is a circular argument. Science has a lot more evidence behind it than a book that was supposedly written by God. I know I'm probably not going to change any of your minds about creation, I just want to show you that a lot of your misconceptions stem from a lack of understanding of the process of evolution, and maybe get some of you to see that evolution isn't quite as ridiculous as you think.

Going back and forth between the Bible and science isn't going to get us anywhere.

[Elizabeth]

Re: Problems with Evolution

Coprolites.

Coprolites are fossilized animal dung. With the amount of time for evolution to happen it would mean the planet should be covered in a layer of Coprolites several miles deep. Were are the coprolites?

Um, no. First of all, not all animal dung becomes fossilized. Certain conditions have to exist for fossils to form. Second, these fossils don't necessarily have to last forever. They can be destroyed by various geologic processes.

[Elizabeth]

Re: Problems with Evolution

OK, here's a HUGE one for starters. If humans really did evolve from monkeys, why are babies not born monkeys? Why do we not have tails? And why don't we live in trees like monkeys? The very idea of humans evolving from monkeys is ridiculous. And if we did, why are there still monkeys living in the World today? Surely they would have evolved too?? And why can we talk, but monkeys can't?? There are so many reasons why we couldn't have evolved from monkeys, that Evil-utionists are clutching at straws with their far-out beliefs. It's called the THEORY of Evolution after all, NOT the FACT of evolution. Don't you think there's a reason for that? See, there's a reason why us Creationists believe in Biblical TRUTH over Evolutionist THEORY. Because one is FACT, while the other is FICTION.

The only so called 'proof' these Evolutionists give for their insane beliefs are a bunch of old monkey bones, they 'claim' were the ancestors of man. Homo erectus, Homo genus, homo this, homo that. They say 'Hey, This one is half man - half monkey, how do you explain that one, Creationists?'. Then they come up with all these whacky theories that it must have transformed from a monkey into a man. You know where they got those ideas from? The Werewolf. A creature that supposedly transforms from man to wolf. It doesn't take a great deal of imagination for evolutionists to invent a creature that transforms from monkey to man. They are clutching at straws. Have any of these freaks actually heard of Occam's Razor?

Occam's Razor states “The simplest explanation for a phenomenon is most likely the correct explanation."

See, they have to come up with a far-out reason to explain something that's reletavely simple. Why are their half man - half monkey bones? Because men has sexual intercourse with monkeys, and those monkeys gave birth to half man - half monkey children. It's THAT simple! Noone and nothing evolved from anything, there is no such thing as a werewolf that turns from a monkey into a man, and Evolution is nothing but a THEORY, which is UTTER NONSENSE!

Case and Point, Witch!

Wow. You obviously do not understand the process of evolution at all. Maybe you should read a biology textbook (don't tell me to read the Bible, because I have). Evolution does not involve in individual changing from one species to another, it involves a population changing gradually over time. Every population has some genetic variation. (Look around you. Is every person you see exactly the same? No. The same goes for all animals.) Because of this variation, some will be better able to survive, and hence live long enough to reproduce. Imagine a population of moths. Some are brown, some are white. They live on trees with brown bark. If a bird comes along looking for a moth to eat, it will see the white ones first and eat those. Therefore, more brown ones will live and reproduce more offspring. Since offspring are very similar to their parents (ever noticed how people's children look like them?) the next generation will have more brown moths than white moths. Over the course of many generations, eventually all moths will be brown. The white moths didn't turn in to brown moths, brown moths just became more common over time. The same thing happened with the traits that make us different from our ape-like ancestors. Our tails didn't just fall off, they grew shorter and shorter over the course of many generations.

Monkeys still live in the world today because we did not evolve from monkeys, we shared a common ancestor with them. Evolution is not a ladder. It is more like a tree, with species branching off from common ancestors and some branches dying off. We don't live in trees because our early ancestors evolved to walk upright, leaving the trees and setting us apart from monkeys. Monkeys continued to adapt to their arboreal lifestyle, and we continued to adapt to our bipedal lifestyle. Monkeys can't talk because talking was a trait that appeared after the human lineage branched off from the monkey lineage.

Evolution is just a theory, but that's just semantics. It's only a theory because we can't recreate the earth in a lab and wait billions of years to show that evolution is what created all life on earth. The theory is that evolution got us where we are today, the process of evolution itself is a fact. Scientists have recreated evolution on a smaller scale in a lab with bacteria. It has been observed in many organisms. If you want me to find the studys to cite, I will. Technically, electricity is just a theory, too. By your logic, does that mean you don't believe in the computer you are using, either?

The fossils of our ancestors ("half-man half-monkey" bones as you call them) are not the sexual hybrids of men and monkeys. That's impossible. If a man and a monkey were to mate, the offspring would be inviable and would die in the womb. Most likely, the zygote (fertilized egg) would not even form because the sperm and egg would be incompatible. Do you see any animal hybrids in nature? No, because their are many barriers to their formation and survival. Don't say a mule or a liger, because these are not found in nature, they are created by man. Besides, they are usually sterile and can't reproduce.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Problems with Evolution

I will not accept "Because it's not what's in the Bible" because I will ask how you know the Bible is correct and you will say because God wrote it and I will ask how you know God exists and you will say because it's in the Bible... and then you will call me a heathen and tell me I am going to Hell, and we won't get anywhere.

We won't get anywhere because of your atheist presuppositionalism. Why should we trust the words of secular scientists, who have been wrong before, over the Holy Bible, God's Word, which is never wrong? Who created everything, your secular sources or God?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Problems with Evolution

Creationists,

Tell me your problems with evolution. I want to argue against them.

I will not accept "Because it's not what's in the Bible" because I will ask how you know the Bible is correct and you will say because God wrote it and I will ask how you know God exists and you will say because it's in the Bible... and then you will call me a heathen and tell me I am going to Hell, and we won't get anywhere.

Show me the holes you find in the theory and I will show you why you are wrong.

Coprolites.

Coprolites are fossilized animal dung. With the amount of time for evolution to happen it would mean the planet should be covered in a layer of Coprolites several miles deep. Were are the coprolites?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Problems with Evolution

Creationists,

Tell me your problems with evolution. I want to argue against them.

I will not accept "Because it's not what's in the Bible" because I will ask how you know the Bible is correct and you will say because God wrote it and I will ask how you know God exists and you will say because it's in the Bible... and then you will call me a heathen and tell me I am going to Hell, and we won't get anywhere.

Show me the holes you find in the theory and I will show you why you are wrong.

Evilutionist,

Tell me your problems with God's Creation. I want to prove you wrong.

I will not accept "Because it's unscientific" because I will ask how you know science is correct and you will say because it's scientifically verifiable and I will ask how you know the scientific method works and you will say because it's scientific...and then God will get bored of you being a heathen and send you to Hell, and we won't get anywhere.

Show me the holes you find in the Bible and I will show you why you are wrong.

[Hieronymous Bosch]

Re: Problems with Evolution

Creationists,

Tell me your problems with evolution. I want to argue against them.

I will not accept "Because it's not what's in the Bible" because I will ask how you know the Bible is correct and you will say because God wrote it and I will ask how you know God exists and you will say because it's in the Bible... and then you will call me a heathen and tell me I am going to Hell, and we won't get anywhere.

Show me the holes you find in the theory and I will show you why you are wrong.

My big problem with evolution is that Darwin was a homophobic racist pig. Like Hitler he believed in Eugenics, why the subtitle of his book "Origin of the Species" was subtitled: 'Preservation of Favored Species in the Struggle for Life'. Man, if that isn't Eugenics then what is it? You so called 'enlightened' atheists certainly don't want anything to do with a guy that gave Adolf all these bad ideas do you?
Not only that all these so called sophisticated bible bashing, devils in the white coats can't even make a simple single cell animal in their fancy laboratories. That's all I got to say on this subject........


for now.

[The unEnlightened]

Re: Problems with Evolution

OK, here's a HUGE one for starters. If humans really did evolve from monkeys, why are babies not born monkeys? Why do we not have tails? And why don't we live in trees like monkeys? The very idea of humans evolving from monkeys is ridiculous. And if we did, why are there still monkeys living in the World today? Surely they would have evolved too?? And why can we talk, but monkeys can't?? There are so many reasons why we couldn't have evolved from monkeys, that Evil-utionists are clutching at straws with their far-out beliefs. It's called the THEORY of Evolution after all, NOT the FACT of evolution. Don't you think there's a reason for that? See, there's a reason why us Creationists believe in Biblical TRUTH over Evolutionist THEORY. Because one is FACT, while the other is FICTION.

The only so called 'proof' these Evolutionists give for their insane beliefs are a bunch of old monkey bones, they 'claim' were the ancestors of man. Homo erectus, Homo genus, homo this, homo that. They say 'Hey, This one is half man - half monkey, how do you explain that one, Creationists?'. Then they come up with all these whacky theories that it must have transformed from a monkey into a man. You know where they got those ideas from? The Werewolf. A creature that supposedly transforms from man to wolf. It doesn't take a great deal of imagination for evolutionists to invent a creature that transforms from monkey to man. They are clutching at straws. Have any of these freaks actually heard of Occam's Razor?

Occam's Razor states “The simplest explanation for a phenomenon is most likely the correct explanation."

See, they have to come up with a far-out reason to explain something that's reletavely simple. Why are their half man - half monkey bones? Because men has sexual intercourse with monkeys, and those monkeys gave birth to half man - half monkey children. It's THAT simple! Noone and nothing evolved from anything, there is no such thing as a werewolf that turns from a monkey into a man, and Evolution is nothing but a THEORY, which is UTTER NONSENSE!

Case and Point, Witch!

Because thats not evolution. Evolution is small traits that over many generations help it reproduce faster. The creatures with these traits have a better chance of reproducing. This over a couple million years with many different traits causes the population to undergo changes. What you described is a common misconception of evolution.