[Brother Temperance]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

No punishment. Demanding fealty is more a speciality of the abrahamic beliefs. As to your second question, that's a longer answer. It isn't about reward in the way that you might think. Nor is it about falling on my face in blind worship.
Again, such things are more a speciality of abrahamic beliefs.

So what exactly is the point of honouring your made-up false idols? Wouldn't it be more rational to switch to a belief system offering better rewards?

In this case, seeing as tallywhackers are the subject of discussion, yes.

A discussion that you started. Honestly, you're as bad as a Catholic schoolgirl.

This is the mentality which I don't like. People who think that their way is the only way and that everyone else is wrong.

So do you think George Bush is wrong? Do you think the earth is flat?

It's a sad thing if you think that all relgions or beliefs are about punishment, hellfire and torture.
That just proves that you are the way you are only because of fear. I'm willing to bet a great deal of money that if the 'hell' part was taken from the bible, very few people would remain xtians.

Did you know that the Holy Bible contains 187 different verses containing combinations of the words "fear" and "Lord" (and that's before you get onto fearing God, and so on)? Praise! Here's just a few:
Leviticus 19:32 Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD.
Deuteronomy 6:13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
Psalm 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Frankly, after all that, it'd seem pretty rude not to fear the LORD, now wouldn't it?

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

Excuse me for chiming in on this unsavory subject. However, I couldn't help but notice that eyelid skin and elbow skin look just like (excuse me JESUS) testicle skin sacks. Perhaps the foreskin is just a little extra?

G'head, look at your elbow and you'll see what I mean.

Helpful, Sister Thumper

Since you're clearly an innocent, let me point out -- delicately -- that the foreskin is somewhat removed from that other area you mentioned. Usually by at least 7 or 8 inches (less, in the case of our Asian friends).

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

Well why would we remain Christians? Sitting around some great big golden hall in the sky for eternity would suck if we weren't going to get to watch people be tortured. Wow, what fun "I love Jesus and a huh, please pass the bread." That would get old fast. PRAISE God HE is going to provided the perfect afterlife entertainment. GLORY!

I knew it!!!!!
But, dear adorable BJ, I must confess, I'm most surprised that you actually admitted it. So many xtians protest and say they actually do love their monstrous deity and would still follow those beliefs even without the threat of hell.
Bah......yeah.......right.

Excuse me for chiming in on this unsavory subject. However, I couldn't help but notice that eyelid skin and elbow skin look just like (excuse me JESUS) testicle skin sacks. Perhaps the foreskin is just a little extra?

G'head, look at your elbow and you'll see what I mean.

Lol! Do you spend a lot of time looking for ball-type skin, then?

So you think the foreskin is......reserve skin in case of emergency? That thought is kinda...icky..

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

Excuse me for chiming in on this unsavory subject. However, I couldn't help but notice that eyelid skin and elbow skin look just like (excuse me JESUS) testicle skin sacks. Perhaps the foreskin is just a little extra?

G'head, look at your elbow and you'll see what I mean.

Helpful, Sister Thumper

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

It's a sad thing if you think that all relgions or beliefs are about punishment, hellfire and torture.
That just proves that you are the way you are only because of fear. I'm willing to bet a great deal of money that if the 'hell' part was taken from the bible, very few people would remain xtians.

Well why would we remain Christians? Sitting around some great big golden hall in the sky for eternity would suck if we weren't going to get to watch people be tortured. Wow, what fun "I love Jesus and a huh, please pass the bread." That would get old fast. PRAISE God HE is going to provided the perfect afterlife entertainment. GLORY!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

What do your joke false bunny gods do to people who don't worship them? What rewards do they give to those who do?

No punishment. Demanding fealty is more a speciality of the abrahamic beliefs. As to your second question, that's a longer answer. It isn't about reward in the way that you might think. Nor is it about falling on my face in blind worship.
Again, such things are more a speciality of abrahamic beliefs.
Sweet merciful crawdads!

Always trying to turn the discussion back to tallywhackers, aren't you?

In this case, seeing as tallywhackers are the subject of discussion, yes.

Rubbish, you're only here to lead the faithful away from God and mock us.
Also, there cannot be several correct ways, only one:
OURS! (John 14:6)

This is the mentality which I don't like. People who think that their way is the only way and that everyone else is wrong. Are you a deity yourself? Do you know everything there is to know? You don't, do you?

Yes Rachael, what is the point of a religion if no one is punished? I mean it is like having a house without a solarium or a wine celler; just the same as being homeless.

It's a sad thing if you think that all relgions or beliefs are about punishment, hellfire and torture.
That just proves that you are the way you are only because of fear. I'm willing to bet a great deal of money that if the 'hell' part was taken from the bible, very few people would remain xtians.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

What do your joke false bunny gods do to people who don't worship them? What rewards do they give to those who do?

Yes Rachael, what is the point of a religion if no one is punished? I mean it is like having a house without a solarium or a wine celler; just the same as being homeless.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

It's what I have chosen as a valid path for me. I'm not trying to convert you to my spiritual beliefs, I more have a problem with religions like xtianity who insist that their way is the only way, try to convert everyone else to their own way of thinking, and who think that they, and all their texts etc, came first.

I don't run around trying to convert everyone. You, however, do.

Rubbish, you're only here to lead the faithful away from God and mock us.
Also, there cannot be several correct ways, only one:
OURS! (John 14:6)

And it is a narrow way we walk, but many and broad are the ways towards damnation (and yours is just one of them).
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matthew 7:14

Whatever Christian concept you pagans think you had before us..
You only had them because satan pre-stole them.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

It's what I have chosen as a valid path for me. I'm not trying to convert you to my spiritual beliefs, I more have a problem with religions like xtianity who insist that their way is the only way, try to convert everyone else to their own way of thinking, and who think that they, and all their texts etc, came first.

I don't run around trying to convert everyone. You, however, do.

What do your joke false bunny gods do to people who don't worship them? What rewards do they give to those who do?

And speaking of evolution, can we get off this tangent and back on topic now?

Always trying to turn the discussion back to tallywhackers, aren't you?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

You are trying to convert people who come here to non-Christianity, which is the same as following your true master, Satan.

No, I'm merely pointing out flaws in a destructive, bullying, and hateful belief system. What people who read it choose to make of that information is entirely up to them.

However, even if you genuinely believe your Wickerism, you have said yourself that you have chosen it yourself.

I don't believe in 'wickerism', by which I assume you mean wicca. I keep telling you, I'm not wiccan.

Something is Truth, or it is not. God's Word is Truth; what do you have? A bunch of half-baked stories, fragments from ancient cults, and speculations? Yet that is somehow more valid than God's Word?

I said, I've chosen what's valid for me. Seeing as I don't seek to convert you to my spiritual beliefs, there's really nothing further that needs to be said.
Except I'll say this, I see the spiritual and physical world as separate things. And as far as the physical world goes, I do believe evolution is what happened with this physical world (and de-volution in cases like that of GWB ).
And speaking of evolution, can we get off this tangent and back on topic now?

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

It's what I have chosen as a valid path for me. I'm not trying to convert you to my spiritual beliefs, I more have a problem with religions like xtianity who insist that their way is the only way, try to convert everyone else to their own way of thinking, and who think that they, and all their texts etc, came first.

I don't run around trying to convert everyone. You, however, do.

You are trying to convert people who come here to non-Christianity, which is the same as following your true master, Satan.

However, even if you genuinely believe your Wickerism, you have said yourself that you have chosen it yourself.

Something is Truth, or it is not. God's Word is Truth; what do you have? A bunch of half-baked stories, fragments from ancient cults, and speculations? Yet that is somehow more valid than God's Word?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

It seems all you do, Mrs. Satan would you quit calling me that?? I'm going to start calling YOU HighOn'E's! , is spout attacks against Christianity. You've yet to explain why your baby-eating, naked-dancing, deity-du-jour-worshipping religion is as or more valid.

It's what I have chosen as a valid path for me. I'm not trying to convert you to my spiritual beliefs, I more have a problem with religions like xtianity who insist that their way is the only way, try to convert everyone else to their own way of thinking, and who think that they, and all their texts etc, came first.

I don't run around trying to convert everyone. You, however, do.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

Face it, there's almost nothing truly original about your religion! Almost all of it was stolen and adapted from somewhere else. And the bits which weren't stolen, were merely add-ons to the stolen bits.

It seems all you do, Mrs. Satan, is spout attacks against Christianity. You've yet to explain why your baby-eating, naked-dancing, deity-du-jour-worshipping religion is as or more valid.

I eagerly await your response . . . Let me know when to get the baptismal ready.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

Friend, if you were any less capable of basic logical thought, I'd have to start calling you Hairy Homer. Saul wanted proof that David had killed a hundred heathens, so the Lord thoughtfully designed things so that there was a physical proof of heathenism. Why is this so difficult to grasp? Being circumcised does not automatically equate to being Saved, but being uncircumcised does automatically equate to being unsaved. It's really not that difficult.

Bah. Hairy Homer is more logical than any of you.

Look, the foreskin is something which is unnecessary and in some cases unhygenic.

And seeing as the Ancient Egyptians were snipping tips a long time before the bible writers came up with the covenant idea, it renders your idea completely null.

Face it, there's almost nothing truly original about your religion! Almost all of it was stolen and adapted from somewhere else. And the bits which weren't stolen, were merely add-ons to the stolen bits.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Circumcision - how do you explain that with intelligent desig

How does it make it easier??
Like I said, the whole mark of the covenant thing is silly, seeing as the Ancient Egyptians were doing it first.

Friend, if you were any less capable of basic logical thought, I'd have to start calling you Hairy Homer. Saul wanted proof that David had killed a hundred heathens, so the Lord thoughtfully designed things so that there was a physical proof of heathenism. Why is this so difficult to grasp? Being circumcised does not automatically equate to being Saved, but being uncircumcised does automatically equate to being unsaved. It's really not that difficult.