[Ignorant Buttmunch]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

It's interesting to me to see some people, when faced with the Truth©, simply cannot comprehend it. It's almost as if God has hardened its heart, but it's probably a matter of demons infecting its mind. Poor thing, I keep praying for it but there seems to be no improvement.

You are making no sense, woman.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Yeah, sorry, I forgot, there's some mystical force making children get shot by mad gunmen because they did something to deserve it in your "philosophy"

Can't you even hear how wrong that is? Proper looney tunes stuff.

It's interesting to me to see some people, when faced with the Truth©, simply cannot comprehend it. It's almost as if God has hardened its heart, but it's probably a matter of demons infecting its mind. Poor thing, I keep praying for it but there seems to be no improvement.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

...China's on the road to be the leading world superpower...

*sigh* Ok, now we can economics to the list of things you have no clue about.

Do really think that all of the people at the top of the US government are absolutely clueless? Why aren't they in an absolute panic about the levels of debt they've built up (yes, a lot of it is to China, but most is to themselves and their own citizens)?

If any of their creditors dare to call in any more of that debt than the US gov't is willing to deal with at that time, they're just going to re-value their currency (all US public debt is in US dollars, neat trick) and *poof* there goes anything of actual value in that debt. Either that, or just default (as has been done many many times, see Greece, Chile, Argentina, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Iceland, Germany [both East and West and combined], etc.) and pay NOTHING.

Everyone knows this, and knows that if anyone is stupid enough to force the US to even think about doing something like, they'll screw their own economies over, as badly or even worse than what would happen to the US economy (outright default? couple of years to pay off a token amount and then you're right back where you started, with a clean balance sheet no less), so no one says boo.

Think about the concept of money in the first place. Is that piece of paper in your hand actually worth anything? No. The only value it holds is in the belief of others that it's worth something. The balance in your bank account is just bits in a computer memory, worth even less until someone else thinks that they're worth something.

China's more than happy to keep collecting interest on the US debt they own, and to keep the charade going. If they ever did anything else, they'd lose the #1 market for their exports, there go the jobs making the crap to export, and here comes another Chinese revolution powered by 200 million+ unemployed, and there go the people running China right now off to the firing squad (and over there, they give you bullets, not a pink slip).

You have the right (as a citizen of a Western democracy) to be a fuggin idjit. What you don't have the right to is to pronounce all of your delusions (based mostly on ignorance and paranoia) as truth and not be called out for the idjit you are.

This has been a public service announcement from Didymus Much. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming already in progress...

[Ignorant Buttmunch]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Name 50 things that you use every day that non-whites invented.

If you say peanut butter or algebra...watch out.



You have 5 minutes.

YiC,

Zech

the Bible?

[Alkalai]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Name 50 things that you use every day that non-whites invented.

If you say peanut butter or algebra...watch out.



You have 5 minutes.

YiC,

Zech

Paper. Language. I don't think I even regularly use 50 things every day. Why is this restriction here exactly? Inventions that I haven't personally used affect all our lives as well.

And even if whites have contributed more, it doesn't mean they're a superior race. China's on the road to be the leading world superpower, how exactly are you going to be able to proclaim yourselves superior then?

And even if the best person on Earth was white, doesn't mean you idiots aren't the dregs of society. Which you are.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Name 50 things that you use every day that non-whites invented.

If you say peanut butter or algebra...watch out.



You have 5 minutes.

YiC,

Zech

I just know he's going to try and say they invented Elvis music or something...

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Learn to read. I've been over this with the sane people on these forums.

And even that isn't as delusional as the idea that the earth is flat or that whites are superior.

Name 50 things that you use every day that non-whites invented.

If you say peanut butter or algebra...watch out.



You have 5 minutes.

YiC,

Zech

[Alkalai]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Yeah, sorry, I forgot, there's some mystical force making children get shot by mad gunmen because they did something to deserve it in your "philosophy"

Can't you even hear how wrong that is? Proper looney tunes stuff.

Learn to read. I've been over this with the sane people on these forums.

And even that isn't as delusional as the idea that the earth is flat or that whites are superior.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Even if I was making stuff up, it would still be better than letting someone else make stuff up for me and believing every word of it, which is what you're doing.

Time to get in touch with reality, even if it's probably too late for you.

Yeah, sorry, I forgot, there's some mystical force making children get shot by mad gunmen because they did something to deserve it in your "philosophy"

Can't you even hear how wrong that is? Proper looney tunes stuff.

[Alkalai]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

You don't get to just make stuff up and say it exists. This is why God will never be real to you. You just make stuff up because you want it to be true so you assume that's what happened with God.

There's no way something as perfect and consistent for all time as God could have been made up by people writing a storybook. It just doesn't make sense. Why else would you be here to mock us? You just want to reinforce your own pathetic, fictional beliefs by rubbishing ours.

Even if I was making stuff up, it would still be better than letting someone else make stuff up for me and believing every word of it, which is what you're doing.

Time to get in touch with reality, even if it's probably too late for you.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Makes no sense. I just explained it made it up as I went along. How does it not exist?

You don't get to just make stuff up and say it exists. This is why God will never be real to you. You just make stuff up because you want it to be true so you assume that's what happened with God.

There's no way something as perfect and consistent for all time as God could have been made up by people writing a storybook. It just doesn't make sense. Why else would you be here to mock us? You just want to reinforce your own pathetic, fictional beliefs by rubbishing ours.

[Alkalai]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Well, at least you're honest about it. Unlike most of the atheists who come on this forum trying to deceive us.

How about being honest about karma? You have defined karma in your mind. But this is how karma is defined:

I definitely don't think you believe in definitions 3 & 4. And from what you've said before I don't think you believe in definitions 1 & 2. So is what you believe really karma?

You can probably find some logical beliefs in just about any religion. But religions like buddhism expect you to stop thinking and just blindly follow all its teachings, whether logical or not.

Again, most religions teach inner peace and change. What makes buddhism so special? Who says you can't find inner peace some other way?

But I don't think they are the same beliefs. I previously quoted to you some Bible verses that support the idea that what goes around comes around.

If you agree with these verses, would you say that you believed both atheism and Christianity? Why not say that you believe atheism and hinduism, which also teaches karma? Only you don't really believe karma because you've admitted that sometimes things happen to people that they seemingly don't deserve.

Eccl 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

1 Cor 9:16 Yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

"You climb a tree. Is there a chance you will fall off the tree because you decided to climb it? Yes. Does this mean that you will fall off it? No, but there's a chance it will happen now that you climbed the tree."

Karma as explained to me by a Buddhist monk. The possibility that a consequence will come to pass because of an action you committed. Needs a new label maybe?

Not saying Buddhism is the only way to achieve inner peace. It's one way, and I happened to choose this way. Also not saying Christianity can't be a way. I never argue with normal Christians. It's this particular branch that's just wrong, on so many levels. Buddhism does not teach you to blindly follow while Christianity does.

Buddhism agrees with my views far more than Christianity or any other religion, so that's pretty much why.

And you used the Bible to explain why you believe in the Bible. Same conundrum, try again.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Makes no sense. I just explained it. How does it not exist?

If there's nothing making it happen, and it doesn't come from anywhere, and it might not even happen at all, then it doesn't exist.

Might as well pray to Random.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Admitted? More like found the word for it.

Well, at least you're honest about it. Unlike most of the atheists who come on this forum trying to deceive us.

Bolded part is pretty much what karma is in my mind, so believing that and karma is really not that different.

How about being honest about karma? You have defined karma in your mind. But this is how karma is defined:

kar·ma [kahr-muh]
noun
1.
Hinduism, Buddhism. action, seen as bringing upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a reincarnation: in Hinduism one of the means of reaching Brahman. Compare bhakti ( def 1 ) , jana.
2.
Theosophy. the cosmic principle according to which each person is rewarded or punished in one incarnation according to that person's deeds in the previous incarnation.
3.
fate; destiny. Synonyms: predestination, predetermination, lot, kismet.
4.
the good or bad emanations felt to be generated by someone or something: Lets get out of here. This place has bad karma.

I definitely don't think you believe in definitions 3 & 4. And from what you've said before I don't think you believe in definitions 1 & 2. So is what you believe really karma?

Also, I believe in parts of the teachings of Buddha because they're true. Any atheist could have the same beliefs as well, since it's logical.

You can probably find some logical beliefs in just about any religion. But religions like buddhism expect you to stop thinking and just blindly follow all its teachings, whether logical or not.

Why not label myself as just atheist then? Because I think Buddhism has some great points as well. Inner peace, change, etc.

Again, most religions teach inner peace and change. What makes buddhism so special? Who says you can't find inner peace some other way?

Buddhist and atheist beliefs happen to coincide on some points, doesn't mean I can't believe both when they're the same beliefs.

But I don't think they are the same beliefs. I previously quoted to you some Bible verses that support the idea that what goes around comes around.

Lk 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

Prov 30:33 Surely the churning of milk bringeth forth butter, and the wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood: so the forcing of wrath bringeth forth strife.

If you agree with these verses, would you say that you believed both atheism and Christianity? Why not say that you believe atheism and hinduism, which also teaches karma? Only you don't really believe karma because you've admitted that sometimes things happen to people that they seemingly don't deserve.

Eccl 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Also, you seem to be capable of arguing logically, why're you still with this religion?

1 Cor 9:16 Yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

[Alkalai]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Then it doesn't exist.



Then it doesn't exist.



Then it doesn't exist.

Makes no sense. I just explained it. How does it not exist?