[janna]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

Try it with a sinner laying down underneath. You'll see.

Just tried it with a sinner, same results. No spell. Just physics.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

Actually I have done the experiment to determine the earth's gravitational force in physics. You need a meter stick, a stop watch, and a fairly heavy ball (to not be affected by air resistance too much). You time how long it takes for the ball to drop one meter and calculate g by using the equation y=(1/2)gt^2^. The results should be very close to 9.81 m/s^2^ in the hypothesis and get what? It's correct. Plus I have been calculating circumference since I was 11. Pi is not 3.

Is that some sort of witch spell?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

Actually I have done the experiment to determine the earth's gravitational force in physics. You need a meter stick, a stop watch, and a fairly heavy ball (to not be affected by air resistance too much). You time how long it takes for the ball to drop one meter and calculate g by using the equation y=(1/2)gt^2^. The results should be very close to 9.81 m/s^2^ in the hypothesis and get what? It's correct. Plus I have been calculating circumference since I was 11. Pi is not 3.

Try it with a sinner laying down underneath. You'll see.

[janna]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

How do you know? Have you done the experiment yourself? I have. And I know that when you throw a stone at a sinner, it travels with more force, as it is God's will that the sinner be stoned with stones.

Actually I have done the experiment to determine the earth's gravitational force in physics. You need a meter stick, a stop watch, and a fairly heavy ball (to not be affected by air resistance too much). You time how long it takes for the ball to drop one meter and calculate g by using the equation y=(1/2)gt^2^. The results should be very close to 9.81 m/s^2^ in the hypothesis and get what? It's correct. Plus I have been calculating circumference since I was 11. Pi is not 3.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

Well no because the acceleration of the stone will always be around 9.81 m/s² due to the gravitational pull of the earth give or take a few decimals because of air resistance . For the question you use V²-Vo²=2gh for free fall motion. And for pi, a circle with a diameter of 100 meters with never ever ever have the circumference of 300 meters, sorry.

How do you know? Have you done the experiment yourself? I have. And I know that when you throw a stone at a sinner, it travels with more force, as it is God's will that the sinner be stoned with stones.

[janna]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

How can a lifeless, soul-less piece of rock decide to pull stuff around? And how is lifeless air suppose to resist things? Seems you college-types replace belief in God with animism, a pagan believe in invisible spirits everywhere! And you call yourself rational?

Obviously God is pulling things, and resisting things, not lifeless rock and air.

The lifeless, soul-less planet doesn't decide anything. It's just physics. Sorry, but there are LAWS in science that have been accepted universely. God doesn't pull anything nor is the bible historicly accurate nor are the observed facts in this world wrong i.e. the world is round.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

gravitational pull of the earth...air resistance

How can a lifeless, soul-less piece of rock decide to pull stuff around? And how is lifeless air suppose to resist things? Seems you college-types replace belief in God with animism, a pagan belief in invisible spirits everywhere! And you call yourself rational?

Obviously God is pulling things, and resisting things, not lifeless rock and air.

[janna]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

It depends. If you put a worthless sinner under the stone, it may travel at a higher velocity to ensure that he doesn't get away. God has a plan for some stones.

Well no because the acceleration of the stone will always be around 9.81 m/s² due to the gravitational pull of the earth give or take a few decimals because of air resistance . For the question you use V²-Vo²=2gh for free fall motion. And for pi, a circle with a diameter of 100 meters with never ever ever have the circumference of 300 meters, sorry.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

Say you drop a stone of mass 50g from the top of a 20m high building (so its initial velocity is 0m/s). How would you find the final velocity of the stone as it hits the ground and the force the stone applies to the ground using your scientific reasoning?

First of all, if God wanted us nit-picking exact velocities and such, there would be a bit in the Bible about this. And while I'm not going to be tricked into solving your problem for you, I'll provide a few pointers, just to show how the True Scientific Method™ works.

First of all, what is the shape of the stone? Is it a circle? Remember that false scientists believe that Pi - the ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle - is 3.141592654-etc. However, through True Science, we discover that Pi is actually a perfect 3:

He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it. Below the rim, gourds encircled it – ten to a cubit. -1 Kings 7:23-26 (KJV)

Thus, we have proved that beliefs in Trigonometry, Radians, Complex numbers, , Circular motion, Physics, Electrostatic force, Isotropic transmission and so on are false.



Now, on to the mass and velocity. The Bible states that both are at the whim of God. Jesus can walk on water, the stars can fall from the sky, (Revelation 6:13, Revelation 8:10) and the sun stopped in it's orbit of the earth (Joshua 10:13). So the answer to your question is "whatever amount of force God wants".

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

Hmm an interesting concept Jeb Thurmond. Ok how about a basic kinematics question.

Say you drop a stone of mass 50g from the top of a 20m high building (so its initial velocity is 0m/s). How would you find the final velocity of the stone as it hits the ground and the force the stone applies to the ground using your scientific reasoning?

Thanks, Corbeen

It depends. If you put a worthless sinner under the stone, it may travel at a higher velocity to ensure that he doesn't get away. God has a plan for some stones.

[Corbeen]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

Hmm an interesting concept Jeb Thurmond. Ok how about a basic kinematics question.

Say you drop a stone of mass 50g from the top of a 20m high building (so its initial velocity is 0m/s). How would you find the final velocity of the stone as it hits the ground and the force the stone applies to the ground using your scientific reasoning?

Thanks, Corbeen

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

For more on why the key part of the True Scientific Method is "read the Bible" rather than "experiment and observe" see: God HATES Rational Thinking!

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

so let me get this right. to create a chiristian friendly "scientific" study. i think of a question (e.g. does man weigh more than a whale? something easy to start with) and then read the bible and if i can interpret something as a possible answer to my question (e.g. man weighs less than a whale) then that is my hypothesis proven?

The problem with your hypothesis is that your question is so vague as to be unfalsifiable. For example, WHICH man weighs less that WHICH whale?

Whales vary in weight from doliphins to blue whales. Men vary in weight from 0.00 pounds (the weight of Jesus when He walked on water) to the Sons of Anak, who were probably larger than blue whales:

33And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. - Numbers 13:33

If we agree that the average grasshopper weights approx 300mg (sorry to use metric but that's what my sources use) and an average third world citizen (as the ancient Israelites would have been) weighs 75.6 kg....I'll need someone who understands the metric system to do the calculations.

[True Disciple]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

so let me get this right. to create a chiristian friendly "scientific" study. i think of a question (e.g. does man weigh more than a whale? something easy to start with) and then read the bible and if i can interpret something as a possible answer to my question (e.g. man weighs less than a whale) then that is my hypothesis proven?

Not exactly. The point is that we shouldn't interpret the Bible, we should just accept what it says as True Facts(tm). On basis of these, we can then try to find an answer to the research question.

[michael the hater]

Re: The Scientific Method for Christians

so let me get this right. to create a chiristian friendly "scientific" study. i think of a question (e.g. does man weigh more than a whale? something easy to start with) and then read the bible and if i can interpret something as a possible answer to my question (e.g. man weighs less than a whale) then that is my hypothesis proven?