OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

[RomanK]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Even if water had form (which it hasn't) it wouldn't be a problem at all:

Matthew 19:26
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

In classical terms water, fire, earth, and air are the 4 main elements. Ether being the 5th.

Indeed in modern terms water is a molecule. However the concept behind the molecule is that of a compound, hydrogen and oxygen. So if the void was without form then hydrogen would have not been created yet nor would water be present.

as for your form http://whs.wsd.wednet.edu/Faculty/Bu...hics/02-03.jpg

[Johannes Kirkeholm]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Kind of hard to have water if it is without form! If you have no form then you have no waters since it is obvious that water is an element, which has to be formed. Duh! Maybe you'd be better off refering to it as a metaphore for a geometric configuration. K. If you want you can refer to faith as electromagnetics, then I might actually believe in it.

Even if water had form (which it hasn't) it wouldn't be a problem at all:

Matthew 19:26
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Kind of hard to have water if it is without form!

Water is without form. Quick, answer this: What is the shape of water?

[Mrs. Rogers]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Genesis 1:1-2
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Kind of hard to have water if it is without form! If you have no form then you have no waters since it is obvious that water is an element, which has to be formed. Duh!

Water is an element? You know, I think you're on to something here! Actually, let's make our own the laughable scientifical word 'molecule': perhaps the Heavenly Water Molecule is two parts the Glory of GOD covalently bonded to one part the desalinated tears of angels? Probably not, as I cannot find the word 'molecule' in my KJV ...

... please forgive a silly old fool her flight of fancy.

If you want you can refer to faith as electromagnetics, then I might actually believe in it.

I cannot muster the faith required to believe in electromagnetics, son.

[RomanK]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Genesis 1:1-2
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Kind of hard to have water if it is without form! If you have no form then you have no waters since it is obvious that water is an element, which has to be formed. Duh! Maybe you'd be better off refering to it as a metaphore for a geometric configuration. K. If you want you can refer to faith as electromagnetics, then I might actually believe in it.

[Aziz Mahood]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Rev. Osborne, you are absolutely right. Here are some other passages which demonstrate that the Earth rests upon a great ocean, and that space is not a void as suggested by Satanic Globularism:


Genesis 49:25

"Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; And by the Almighty, who shall bless thee
With blessings of heaven above,
Blessings of the deep that lieth under"

Exodus 20:4

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth"

Deuteronomy 4:18

"The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth"

Deuteronomy 33:13


"Blessed of the Lord be his land,
For the precious things of heaven, for the dew,
And for the deep that coucheth beneath"


These passages cleary show that said waters are beneath the Earth, not merely a part of it, which can only mean that the Earth rests on a great ocean or body of water. This of course is also strong scriptural evidence for the planar nature of the terrestrial realm.


For more insights into scripture and its verdict on the shape of the Earth, I strongly recommend Samuel Birley Rowbotham's seminal work Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe, especially chapter 15 which I have linked below:


http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za66.htm

Even the earlies of the church fathers new this, put that puts them head of these scientist.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_ea...ristian_Church

[Wilbur J. Carpenter]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Rev. Osborne, you are absolutely right. Here are some other passages which demonstrate that the Earth rests upon a great ocean, and that space is not a void as suggested by Satanic Globularism:


Genesis 49:25

"Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; And by the Almighty, who shall bless thee
With blessings of heaven above,
Blessings of the deep that lieth under"

Exodus 20:4

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth"

Deuteronomy 4:18

"The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth"

Deuteronomy 33:13


"Blessed of the Lord be his land,
For the precious things of heaven, for the dew,
And for the deep that coucheth beneath"


These passages cleary show that said waters are beneath the Earth, not merely a part of it, which can only mean that the Earth rests on a great ocean or body of water. This of course is also strong scriptural evidence for the planar nature of the terrestrial realm.


For more insights into scripture and its verdict on the shape of the Earth, I strongly recommend Samuel Birley Rowbotham's seminal work Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe, especially chapter 15 which I have linked below:


http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za66.htm

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Really? You're saying that rain doesn't come from clouds...

The Holy Bible makes it clear that rain falls from Heaven (space) whenever it is opened. How can rain fall from clouds when clouds are just a mix of smoke and air?

[UnholyScientist]

Re: OUTER SPACE: Not an empty void, but a vast ocean!

Really? You're saying that rain doesn't come from clouds...

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

It is no secret that modern science has hoodwinked a gullible public and fed them a pack of lies. They do so because scientists are immoral atheists who have no qualm about deceiving others so that people will lose faith in God. They claim to live by "truth", but they live by Satan. Christians, do not fall for these lies! Our Savior tells us...

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. - Matt. 24:4

They have invented hare-brained, crackpot theories with nary a shred of evidence like evolution and natural selection to contradict the Genesis creation account. They tell us the Earth revolves around the sun, or that the Earth is a sphere. They fill in the gaps of their logic by creating things like "genes" or "DNA" to make their lies more coherent and more deceptive.

One lie that is not brought up too much, but does need to be addressed is how secular scientists claim that outer space is nothing more than an empty void, a vacuum. I tell you that this idea of empty space belongs in science fiction like Star Trek, but not in science textbooks and certainly not in our children's classrooms!

The Bible tells us instead that space ("heavens") are actually made up of water. Let us examine the text.

Genesis 1:1-2
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

"without form", "deep", "face of the waters". Clearly this is describing an ocean. Definitely nothing solid. Let us continue to the more important verses which go into more detail...

Genesis 1:6-8
6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Verse 6 tells us there was just water everywhere. It divides the water from the waters. This means in the very beginning there was nothing but ocean -- everywhere. The universe was water.

Move on to verse 7 and it tells us that the firmament was created across the sky, separating the waters below (our oceans on Earth) from the waters above (the literal ocean of space).

Verse 8 reveals that the firmament is called Heaven. The sky. Outer space.

There it is! Conclusive Biblical proof that outer space is a vast ocean. It is not an empty void like those crazy Darwinists want you to think. But it's not over. The Bible also reveals the source of rain. Scientists want you to think it comes from clouds, but actually it is when God opens the heavens and allows water to fall. Rain comes from outer space!

Genesis 7:11-12
11In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
12And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

1 Kings 8:35
35When heaven is shut up, and there is no rain, because they have sinned against thee; if they pray toward this place, and confess thy name, and turn from their sin, when thou afflictest them:

It is quite poetic and beautiful to know that when you feel rain on you, you are feeling literally water from Heaven. I want you to remember that and I want everyone to stand up to the lies the secular scientists have been telling. We need to get rid of this atheistic astronomy and replace it with good, truthful Biblical astronomy in our classrooms. Stand together and demand that they TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!