[John Marston]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

The point I'm proving here is that not everything that travels has the power to break things.

Take that same leaf and fire it at your windshield at 299792458 meters per second and see how fast it smashes the glass. What your saying is the equivalent of being bumped by a car at 2mph would have the same effect as if I hit you at 200mph.

What? What are you trying to argue here?

[Lisa H]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If you took a leaf, held it above the windshield on your car, and then dropped it, it would fall onto your windshield, no?

But wait! Did your windshield shatter? No? But the leaf was traveling when it hit the glass, right? Well what does this mean then?

What does this have to do with light?
Are you trying to tell me light is actually leaves falling off a tree.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If you took a leaf, held it above the windshield on your car, and then dropped it, it would fall onto your windshield, no?

But wait! Did your windshield shatter? No? But the leaf was traveling when it hit the glass, right? Well what does this mean then?

Take that same leaf and fire it at your windshield at 299792458 meters per second and see how fast it smashes the glass. What your saying is the equivalent of being bumped by a car at 2mph would have the same effect as if I hit you at 200mph.

[John Marston]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If light emits from our own eyes, why can we not see in the dark?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If you took a leaf, held it above the windshield on your car, and then dropped it, it would fall onto your windshield, no?

But wait! Did your windshield shatter? No? But the leaf was traveling when it hit the glass, right? Well what does this mean then?

I don't believe light travels at all, i've looked at various models and worked on many but none of it works. The basics of visual perception is often overlooked. When we look at something what is actually going on? The emission theory states that the light emits (not a travelling speed) from our own eyes not from the object we look at. The intromission theory states the opposite.

The emission theory is the most common sense, so i don't believe there is any speed of light. The 'Starlight Problem' has never been a problem for me and the Young Earth Creationism model. The earliest Church Fathers (2nd-4th century AD) who believed in emmision theory also had no problem with starlight and a young universe.

[John Marston]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If light is travelling, then why does it not break things when it hits something.

If you took a leaf, held it above the windshield on your car, and then dropped it, it would fall onto your windshield, no?

But wait! Did your windshield shatter? No? But the leaf was traveling when it hit the glass, right? Well what does this mean then?

[barton]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

if a star is burning, in your "terms", I would say that light is on.

Of course a star's light is on. We can see it.

If a star is millions of light years away then it would take a million years for the light to arrive at earth (traveling at 299 792 458 m / s)....

Whoa there... hold your horses. You are using circular logic built upon ridiculous assertions. There is no such thing as a "light year" because light has no travel time. What's so hard to understand about that?

We can see the stars, therefor the earth is atleast a million years old.

You are like a broken record, repeating the same gibberish over and over again. Your eternal damnation is certain at this point. The irony is that, once cast into the lake of fire, you will be farther from heaven than any distance you could ever have imagined...

Proverbs 26:11 "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."

Romans 13:2 "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."

[BelieverInGod]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

You need a good English lesson I'd say.

God saying light doesn't necessarily mean the literal "light"....

The meaning could also be interpreted as the truth being revealed.

So you just pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe? The KJV1611 Bible is the Holy Inerrant Word of God, who are you to try and tell us "well what God really means..."

Godmocker

[Lisa H]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Notice the speed that light travels at.... 299792458 meters per second.
Its pretty silly to think of light standing still actually, If this was true then if you
closed the blinds in your house, the light would still be inside! Lol, what kind of logic is yours now?

Of course you cant put it in your car.... Theres no way you can capture it!

As I said before, light does not travel, it is either on or off.

If it is dark, then I turn on the light switch and the light comes on. If I turn it off, it goes dark. Simular to what God did in Genesis 1:3, but I am not God.

Genesis 1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

If light is travelling, then why does it not break thinks when it hits something.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Creation scientists have proven that stars cannot possibly be millions of light years away. First of all, stars are essentially giant diamonds since they are composed of carbon (our sun is in the form of coal). I have used the latest science and complex mathematics to prove that the stars are much closer.

Genesis1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

I would like to expound on this as some people are confused about the nature of stars. We can gather two conclusions from this verse. 1) Stars are meant to divide day and night and 2) They are meant for time-keeping.

Since stars are clearly stated to be designed for human purpose, it makes no sense that they would be millions of light-years away like scientists claim. If God made stars so we can keep track of time, why seperate them from earth by vast distances? Furthermore, if they were millions of light-years away, that would mean they would have to be very, very big -- even bigger than our own sun. No, that doesn't make sense at all.

Later in that thread I show through mathematics how it is impossible for stars to be more than six billion miles away from Earth.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Notice the speed that light travels at.... 299792458 meters per second.
Its pretty silly to think of light standing still actually, If this was true then if you
closed the blinds in your house, the light would still be inside! Lol, what kind of logic is yours now?

Of course you cant put it in your car.... Theres no way you can capture it!

If it takes millions of years to travel to earth, how can i see it now? I'm only 20.

If it takes millions of years to travel to earth then the viewer would need to be millions of years old.

[steakjohnson]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Light does don't travel. That is just silly. I cannot put light in my car and drive it somewhere and then release it.

Notice the speed that light travels at.... 299792458 meters per second.
Its pretty silly to think of light standing still actually, If this was true then if you
closed the blinds in your house, the light would still be inside! Lol, what kind of logic is yours now?

Of course you cant put it in your car.... Theres no way you can capture it!

[steakjohnson]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

You do realize that light was created just over six millennia ago:

Genesis 1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

You need a good Bible lesson.

You need a good English lesson I'd say.

God saying light doesn't necessarily mean the literal "light"....

The meaning could also be interpreted as the truth being revealed.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

if a star is burning, in your "terms", I would say that light is on.

If a star is millions of light years away then it would take a million years for the light to arrive at earth (traveling at 299 792 458 m / s)....

We can see the stars, therefor the earth is atleast a million years old.

Well that's backwards isn't it. In order to prove the star is millions of light years away, you have to prove that the earth is millions of years old.

Sorry, but we know for a fact that the earth is just a little over 6,000 years old. All you need to do is count the generations in the Bible.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

if a star is burning, in your "terms", I would say that light is on.

If a star is millions of light years away then it would take a million years for the light to arrive at earth (traveling at 299 792 458 m / s)....

We can see the stars, therefor the earth is atleast a million years old.

And I suppose you're the king of spain too, right?