[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

... the faster you go, the more you experience time dilatation and at light speed time stops from the external viewpoint of the observer who is not a photon.

I thought dilatation was something that happened during childbirth. However rapidly one delivers the squalling baby, time certainly does seem to stop from the external viewpoint of the mother!

[Elmer G. White]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

the light reaching us is about 1000 light years old, so that star you saw, may not bee there, it takes 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach us, it has something to do with resistance, light isn't instant

1. Light year is a measure of distance, not time, it is the distance of 5,879e+12 miles, the time it would taker light to travel that distance is one year.
2. Light (according to secularists) travels at light speed, that is, 86,282 miles per second. Based on the Jewish theory of relativity (that is the Einstein), the faster you go, the more you experience time dilatation and at light speed time stops from the external viewpoint of the observer who is not a photon.
3. Again, according to the atheist theory, light speed depends on the medium it travels through. Resistance R=V/I is used in electronics.

When your knowledge of the competing theories of secular science (competing with the Bible) is that shallow, why should we pay attention to your opinions on God or Jesus?

1 Peter 2:15
For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Here is a question you.

So a light year = the distance light travels in a year.

Scientists say stars are million light years away.

So my question is how are we observing this light million light years away now?

I'm not millions of years old, i'm 20.

the light reaching us is about 1000 light years old, so that star you saw, may not bee there, it takes 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach us, it has something to do with resistance, light isn't instant

I can't see how that addresses the question? OP cites a scientical claim about the speed of light and refers to stars 1,000,000 light years away. According to science, the light in question would be 1,000,000 years old, not a thousand.

[handmaiden]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

the light reaching us is about 1000 light years old, so that star you saw, may not bee there, it takes 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach us, it has something to do with resistance, light isn't instant

And punctuation can be learned.

[James Hutchins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

the light reaching us is about 1000 light years old, so that star you saw, may not bee there, it takes 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach us, it has something to do with resistance, light isn't instant

Utterly absurd!
'Old light' that is 1,000 years old? Not a light bulb I have lasts more than a year. Anyway, it if it were old, it would be yellowed/brown and obviously brittle

Light is instant and easy to check. Place tin foil over your windows. Tape all the gaps on the door. Wait a hour to get used to the darkness. Then hit the light switch and press the button on your stop watch, clicking it (the stopwatch) a second time when you see the light.



Come on man, stop playing the dumbo card.

[Iplaytf2]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Here is a question you.

So a light year = the distance light travels in a year.

Scientists say stars are million light years away.

So my question is how are we observing this light million light years away now?

I'm not millions of years old, i'm 20.

the light reaching us is about 1000 light years old, so that star you saw, may not bee there, it takes 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach us, it has something to do with resistance, light isn't instant

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

So you're trying to convince we that the Earth is only 6000 years old and make me try to ignore that before 6000 years ago there were major key events and evidence to back it up? Like the domestication of animals, The Great Oxygenation Event, and more. Could you actually show proof that the Earth is only 6000 years old? Also, try not to only use biblical proof and show me some scientific proof? Because I have plenty of proof on why the Earth is billions of years old.

You are aware that even according to the science delusion oxygen predates the world we live in? I don't know whether you've studied appropriate source material to engage in this conversation. We know about the domestication of animals: it's a simple historical fact. Cattle require pasture (which may or may not be managed) but once pastures are planted deliberately, other benefits accrue.

Take Lamech and Adah's kids. This is the family who domesticated animals but they also domesticated plants. It may be possible to make one tent out of collected wild grasses spun into yarn and woven but there'd be all sorts of problems. Most grass is unsuitable. But eventually you might scrape together enough for spinning. The weaving takes longer than the spinning. For herdsmen to live in tents as Jabal and all the grandsons did, it's safe to say they'd domesticated plants too for both pasture and for textiles.

Although I've included a picture of the simplest tent (to give you an idea how much weaving would be involved) did you notice I haven't included any sources? Will you just take my word for it? This was quite an innovative family. Did you know they also invented smelting? Following your example I won't include any sources for that either. But as for your bold claims, since you're the one making them, you're the one who has to produce supporting material. Until that happens, why should I believe you at all? The intro. forum would be a good place to present it.

[Didymus Much]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Says the guy who thinks Hitler is alive and he was the first man on the Moon AND he is immortal like Putin...

Should be easy for a stable genius like you to prove him wrong on all those points, then.


But why do you think Putin's immortal?

[IwillTumblrShameYou]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Dear sinner,
Why should be present "scientific" proof? What would be the point when we accept the Bible as the True™ source of information? In addition, the Bible clearly tells us that "scientific" proof is useless.

1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

This verse indicates that science is fundamentally flawed, so why should we respect it. Many of the "proofs" you refer to are familiar to us but God tells us that they are delusions. He Himself has sent these deceptive images to lure unbelievers deeper into sin.

2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

To conclude: This is a Christian Forum. Our job is to guide people to Jesus. The tool is the Bible.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

Says the guy who thinks Hitler is alive and he was the first man on the Moon AND he is immortal like Putin. Also, Thessalonians is not mentioning science so how can you use that as proof?

[Elmer G. White]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

So you're trying to convince we that the Earth is only 6000 years old and make me try to ignore that before 6000 years ago there were major key events and evidence to back it up? Like the domestication of animals, The Great Oxygenation Event, and more. Could you actually show proof that the Earth is only 6000 years old? Also, try not to only use biblical proof and show me some scientific proof? Because I have plenty of proof on why the Earth is billions of years old.

Dear sinner,
Why should be present "scientific" proof? What would be the point when we accept the Bible as the True™ source of information? In addition, the Bible clearly tells us that "scientific" proof is useless.

1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

This verse indicates that science is fundamentally flawed, so why should we respect it. Many of the "proofs" you refer to are familiar to us but God tells us that they are delusions. He Himself has sent these deceptive images to lure unbelievers deeper into sin.

2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

To conclude: This is a Christian Forum. Our job is to guide people to Jesus. The tool is the Bible.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[IwillTumblrShameYou]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

What really makes me laugh is how these sick-o scientists claim that the earth is a billion-carillon years old, when the Holy Bible tells us that the earth cannot possibly be older than about 6,000 years.

How do they expect anyone to take them seriously with nonsense like that?

So you're trying to convince we that the Earth is only 6000 years old and make me try to ignore that before 6000 years ago there were major key events and evidence to back it up? Like the domestication of animals, The Great Oxygenation Event, and more. Could you actually show proof that the Earth is only 6000 years old? Also, try not to only use biblical proof and show me some scientific proof? Because I have plenty of proof on why the Earth is billions of years old.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

That's just nasty! My point is Lucifer was cast to hell before the creation of earth. So that alone tells that yes the earth may only be 6000 years old but the universe itself could be older. That's my point.

It depends what you mean by "universe" and whether you regard "the beginning" as a volume of space or a location in time.

Genesis 1:1a In the beginning

[Basilissa]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Basilessa thank you for the informational and direction I will definitely research it and see what I come up with. I firmly believe in a saying. If I'm wrong educate me dont belittle me. Thank you

Please, do research all you want. Reading the Holy Bible would be a great start.

[FatZ2018]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

What outlandish comments did I make. And I'm not to far off I'm 6'2". Intelligence is measured in several facets as well as knowledge of the Bible.

[James Hutchins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

James I was in no way being condescending. That thank you was sincere. Even if we dont see eye to eye I enjoy an intelligent conversation on opposing views.

Friend, Christians are always happy to hear an opposing viewpoint, no matter how invalid it is. I doubt to could ever see eye to eye with me, I am 6', 6" tall. If you looked at me straight into my steely blue eyes, you'd know in a moment that I am a Godly man and above reproach.
Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Romans 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

1 Corinthians 4:12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.



Insofar as intelligent conversation, I do not see you using the Holy Bible to back up your outlandish comments. Do you just make things up out of thin air? We follow the KJV 1621 Bible as God had written. If God does not say it, it is not true.
Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.