[Eddie James]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

I wouldn't bother trying to argue, although this site is fun to read, most of those who post are as ignorant as a new born baby, or have the intellectual capacity of a digestive biscuit. They are all outcasts that struggle to survive in society and therefore, like all people find peace and exceptence where they can.
We can take comfort in the fact that their right wing bigoted agenda is about as likely to exist within a western democracy as there is evidence likely to be found for Noah's flood (none, never, ever).
Their delusion, although hateful and prejudice, is benign and harmless, and in fact some people like this, and all the other religious fundamentalists are important, it gives a reference of evil to decent people.
Although I'm an atheist, I do believe if god, whichever one is believed would only create people like this to be used as an example.
The real struggle isn't people like this, who cares what they say? they can rot in the ground with no love or acceptance.
These guys are like the Taliban, without the brains or organisation, thankfully.

[AgnosticsAreCowards]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

It's because of Light Refraction, the light we see is very old. It's called a light year for a reason.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

As I said: I'm sure you would disagree.

Go tell your master satan that we are True Christians(tm) and not interested in you're hatemongering.

[AtheistDemonBuffoon]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Of course they were placed. They weren't always there. Someone had to have put them there.

As I said: I'm sure you would disagree.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Just today. The oxygen particles in the air; the Sun I may see as Earth orbits it.
The trees in a nearby field; the field itself.
None were placed, but I'm sure you would disagree.

Of course they were placed. They weren't always there. Someone had to have put them there.

[AtheistDemonBuffoon]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

That's silly. When was the last time you came across something that was placed, but not by someone?

Just today. The oxygen particles in the air; the Sun I may see as Earth orbits it.
The trees in a nearby field; the field itself.
None were placed, but I'm sure you would disagree.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

No one placed it there. That is simply where it happened to be placed.
Scratch that, the people who decided the state borders placed it there.

That's silly. When was the last time you came across something that was placed, but not by someone?

[AtheistDemonBuffoon]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

And who do you think has determined not to locate Iowa near the ocean, or make it an island? And what could be the reason for that?

Why do all atheists have this "know-it-all" attitude?

No one placed it there. That is simply where it happened to be placed.
Scratch that, the people who decided the state borders placed it there.

[Ex-soccer player]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Tsunamis have not hit Iowa recently because Iowa is not along the coast of a massive body of water.

And who do you think has determined not to locate Iowa near the ocean, or make it an island? And what could be the reason for that?

Why do all atheists have this "know-it-all" attitude?

[AtheistDemonBuffoon]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

It's a false choice you're offering. Your fallacy is that you've defined things as "terrible" using your own limited human understanding, which the Bible tells us is wrong.

You make it sound like 250,000 dying in a tsunami (Indonesia, 2004) or even 30,000 (Japan, 2012) is "terrible". If you read the Bible, you'll understand that from a True Christian™ point of view, these events are miracles, as they show the power of God to righteously smite those who deny His Majesty (by not tithing robustly and joyously to His Favourite Church™, Landover Baptist ).

How many tsunamis have hit Iowa (home of Landover Baptist) recently? Checkmate, sinner!

Tsunamis have not hit Iowa recently because Iowa is not along the coast of a massive body of water.

Checkmate, idiot!

[AtheistDemonBuffoon]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Of course a star's light is on. We can see it.

Whoa there... hold your horses. You are using circular logic built upon ridiculous assertions. There is no such thing as a "light year" because light has no travel time. What's so hard to understand about that?
You are like a broken record, repeating the same gibberish over and over again. Your eternal damnation is certain at this point. The irony is that, once cast into the lake of fire, you will be farther from heaven than any distance you could ever have imagined...

Proverbs 26:11 "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."

Romans 13:2 "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."

Did you really just say light has no travel time?
Idiotic, of course it does.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

It's a false choice you're offering. Your fallacy is that you've defined things as "terrible" using your own limited human understanding, which the Bible tells us is wrong.

You make it sound like 250,000 dying in a tsunami (Indonesia, 2004) or even 30,000 (Japan, 2012) is "terrible". If you read the Bible, you'll understand that from a True Christian™ point of view, these events are miracles, as they show the power of God to righteously smite those who deny His Majesty (by not tithing robustly and joyously to His Favourite Church™, Landover Baptist ).

How many tsunamis have hit Iowa (home of Landover Baptist) recently? Checkmate, sinner!

I would reply back, but you have made a good point. I'm confused now.

[Didymus Much]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Why does god allow terrible things to happen?

A ) He can't control them
B ) He causes them
C ) He doesn't care
D ) God doesn't exist

make your choice..

...

It's a false choice you're offering. Your fallacy is that you've defined things as "terrible" using your own limited human understanding, which the Bible tells us is wrong.

You make it sound like 250,000 dying in a tsunami (Indonesia, 2004) or even 30,000 (Japan, 2012) is "terrible". If you read the Bible, you'll understand that from a True Christian™ point of view, these events are miracles, as they show the power of God to righteously smite those who deny His Majesty (by not tithing robustly and joyously to His Favourite Church™, Landover Baptist ).

How many tsunamis have hit Iowa (home of Landover Baptist) recently? Checkmate, sinner!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

Why does god allow terrible things to happen?

A ) He can't control them
B ) He causes them
C ) He doesn't care
D ) God doesn't exist

make your choice..

God tells us that B is true in Isaiah 45:7. If you had bothered to read the Bible you would know that.

Isaiah 45:7

King James Version (KJV)

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

If you have a problem with that, then I hope you like it hot year round.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" away?

over the word of God, who is Perfect?

Why does god allow terrible things to happen?

A ) He can't control them
B ) He causes them
C ) He doesn't care
D ) God doesn't exist

make your choice..

Wrong. Bible=reality. Why in the world would we take the word of scientists, who are people with a tendency to err, over the word of God, who is Perfect?

They had all the knowledge that God wanted them - and us - to have. Period.

NOTHING is impossible for God!

Here's something we've learned about the universe and it doesn't match with your liberal view of the bible. There's a conflict there and we need to resolve that and some people resolved in favor of the bible saying the bible's absolutely right and ignore whatever actual evidence is presented. I find that to be patently absurd because it turns christianity into a self contradictory proposition, which is where there is a god who has an important message for mankind and somehow he only reveals it to certain individuals who then write this down and thousands of years after this initial revelation we have to rely on copies of copies of translations of copies by anonymous authors with no originals to a miracle. There's no amount of reports, anecdotal testimonial reports, that could be sufficient to justify believing that there's a bit actually happened as reported and anything that would qualify as a god would clearly understand that this and if it wanted to convey this information to people in a way that was believable would not be relying on text to do so and this me is the nail on the coffin for Christianity. The god that Christians believe it amazingly stupid if it wants to actually achieve its goal of spreading misinformation humanity by relying on text, by relying on languages that die off, by relying on anecdotal testimony; that's not a pathway to trim and anything that would qualify for god should know this, which means either that god doesn't exist or doesn't care enough about those people who understand the nature of evidence to actually present it.