Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

No, they don't! Where did you see that?

http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2010/09/28/brush-your-beak-10-amazing-birds-with-teeth/

The grass-grazing Greylag Goose gapes, speechless, at your pathetic
grasp of the natural sciences and apparent inability to research anything
before making a greater ass of your ignorant self.

No, mummies are NOT fossils. It depend on the environment of the bones, if they 'turn to dust' as you say, or if they become fossils.
And fossilization take much longer times, than people from 1st century Israel could ever imagine.

Really? Fossilization takes a long time?

http://www.bibleistrue.com/qna/pqna15.htm

One example comes from the church Santa Maria della Salute in Venice, Italy. The chapel of Santa Maria of Health was built in 1631 to celebrate the end of The Plague. Because Venice is built on water-saturated clay and sand, the chapel was constructed on 180,000 wooden pilings to reinforce its foundations. Even though the chapel is a massive stone block structure, it has remained firm since its construction. How have the wooden pilings lasted in water for over 370 years? They have petrified! The chapel now rests on 'stone' or fossilized pilings! (Reported on a segment of 'Burke's Backyard', Channel 9 TV, Sydney, Australia, June 1995)

[loco73]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

Totally a whale. Time to rip up the Bibles, friends, because if you use your imagination (a lot) he's totally right.

The Bible says how God made the Earth. Why would we not believe it just because some people dug up some rocks and got all overexcited about them?

No, it's not totally a whale. But it is a first step on a long way from a land based mammal to a whale. That actually IS evolution.
One, further on the way to the whale is the: Basilosaurus.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

It has failed to explain the broken genes that litter the DNA of humans and apes but are functional in lower vertebrates.

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Oceanwander, I think that the answers you gave are all conclusive refutations of the evolutionists. I wouldn't change a word. As for this one, when God created Adam, he just grabbed whatever DNA he had lying around and changed it to make Adam capable of accepting a soul. Why reinvent the wheel when a simple modification will do? Besides, it was the sixth day of creation, and God was tired and looking forward to His day of rest, so why drag the whole process out by inventing superfluous human-only DNA?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

Yes, they exist. It's called: Ambulocetus natans

Totally a whale. Time to rip up the Bibles, friends, because if you use your imagination (a lot) he's totally right.

The Bible says how God made the Earth. Why would we not believe it just because some people dug up some rocks and got all overexcited about them?

[Noah Sole]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

No, they don't! Where did you see that?

YIC

[loco73]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

Having 'genes' does not prove anything period. First of all, some birds today have teeth.

No, they don't! Where did you see that?

Secondly, I thought you claimed fish began walking on land, not the other way around. The Blue whale of the largest of God's creatures. It would have been many times bigger then any of your Dinosaurs. Where are your Land Dwelling Blue Whale Fossils with legs?

Yes, they exist. It's called: Ambulocetus natans

If Fossils are supposed to be millions of years old, how come we can't find an endless supply of fossils from people who lived 2000 years ago? Ever stop to wonder why bones millions of years old would somehow survive, yet bones a few thousand years old would turn to dust?

No, mummies are NOT fossils. It depend on the environment of the bones, if they 'turn to dust' as you say, or if they become fossils.
And fossilization take much longer times, than people from 1st century Israel could ever imagine.

[passness]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

thanks for all of these .

[Thinks Design]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

I'm a Christian but I don't accept evolution for scientific reasons. Evolution starts with an a priori assumption that there is no God.

Not science at all.

ThinksDesign.

[SheepOfGod]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

Don't get too bent out of shape by these people. With allot of them no amount of Biblical logic will convince them or atleast make them admit it. When the second coming of Jesus happens they will patheticly try and explain it with science.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

"failed to explain...failed to explain"

GOD ALMIGHTY does not need to explain Himself. GOD ALMIGHTY probably likes his privacy, for all we know if Satan figures out how it works, he might create his own satanic dinosaurs to conquer the earth with.

Anyway, it all comes down to who you believe: God, or men:

"Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD." —Jeremiah 17:5

"It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man." —Psalm 118:8

Science is a body of knowledge, from men. You are cursed if you trust it.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

As Brother Jeb sensibly states, the Bible is quite clear about how the Earth was made and in what order. Getting sucked into tackling every baseless and entirely constructed idea scientists come up with is a fool's errand. You might as well start trying to tackle people who believe in fairies or daft folk like Wiccans who just make up any old tosh to explain what they don't fully understand.

God did it all because he wanted to. It's that simple.

[Oceanwander]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

your full of it my friend

I am? Please state your reasoning, arguments, proof, etc.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

Don't get bogged down in the details, just focus on the main point: you are you going to believe, God Almighty, or a "Scientist", probably some nerd that even the girls gave weggies to in middle school?

[tyler the earthworm]

Re: Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution

http://www.trueorigins.us/#/chrisita...ust/4552636505


The Atheist website above claims 'Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution' and they go on to say 'creationism has failed to provide an alternative explanation for the vast majority of evidence explained by evolution.'


I am need of good Creation Science to help counter the arguments they listed below.

I tried my best to answer them, but maybe someone can bring fourth more details.


Having 'genes' does not prove anything period. First of all, some birds today have teeth. Secondly, I thought you claimed fish began walking on land, not the other way around. The Blue whale of the largest of God's creatures. It would have been many times bigger then any of your Dinosaurs. Where are your Land Dwelling Blue Whale Fossils with legs?



Null and Void. Fossils are the work of Satan. Think about it. If Fossils are supposed to be millions of years old, how come we can't find an endless supply of fossils from people who lived 2000 years ago? Ever stop to wonder why bones millions of years old would somehow survive, yet bones a few thousand years old would turn to dust?




O.K... another one a three year old could answer. Lets ignore that fact that fossils are the work of the Devil. Bacteria and simple organisms can live almost anywhere. You scientist even stated that living organisms have been found miles below the surface of the Earth. So obviously they were going to be found in deeper rock right?





How does the fact that Animals did not decide to go on trips around the world disprove creationism?



Dinosaur Fossils were planted by Satan. There is no mention of Dinosaurs in the bible, nothing of Giant Lizards or anything hinting towards Dinosaurs. If they did live during the time of Noah, it is obvious that they were all herbivores.



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Genesis 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

your full of it my friend

[Oceanwander]

http://www.trueorigins.us/#/chrisitanity-evolution-a-must/4552636505

The Atheist website above claims 'Christian Faith Requires Accepting Evolution' and they go on to say 'creationism has failed to provide an alternative explanation for the vast majority of evidence explained by evolution.'


I am need of good Creation Science to help counter the arguments they listed below.

I tried my best to answer them, but maybe someone can bring fourth more details.

It has failed to explain why birds still carry genes to make teeth, whales to make legs, and humans to make tails.

Having 'genes' does not prove anything period. First of all, some birds today have teeth. Secondly, I thought you claimed fish began walking on land, not the other way around. The Blue whale of the largest of God's creatures. It would have been many times bigger then any of your Dinosaurs. Where are your Land Dwelling Blue Whale Fossils with legs?

It has failed to explain why the fossil record proposed by modern scientists can be used to make precise and accurate predictions about the location of transition fossils.

Null and Void. Fossils are the work of Satan. Think about it. If Fossils are supposed to be millions of years old, how come we can't find an endless supply of fossils from people who lived 2000 years ago? Ever stop to wonder why bones millions of years old would somehow survive, yet bones a few thousand years old would turn to dust?

It has failed to explain why the fossil record demonstrates a precise order, with simple organisms in the deepest rocks and more complex ones toward the surface.

O.K... another one a three year old could answer. Lets ignore that fact that fossils are the work of the Devil. Bacteria and simple organisms can live almost anywhere. You scientist even stated that living organisms have been found miles below the surface of the Earth. So obviously they were going to be found in deeper rock right?

It has failed to explain why today's animals live in the same geographical area as fossils of similar species.

How does the fact that Animals did not decide to go on trips around the world disprove creationism?

It has failed to explain why, if carnivorous dinosaurs lived at the same time as modern animals, we don't find the fossils of modern animals in the stomachs of fossilized dinosaurs.

Dinosaur Fossils were planted by Satan. There is no mention of Dinosaurs in the bible, nothing of Giant Lizards or anything hinting towards Dinosaurs. If they did live during the time of Noah, it is obvious that they were all herbivores.

It has failed to explain the broken genes that litter the DNA of humans and apes but are functional in lower vertebrates.

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It has failed to explain how the genetic diversity we observe among humans could have arisen in a few thousand years from two biological ancestors.

Genesis 11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.