[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Angelic ancestors

At least we have something in our brain....

Mmmm, chocolate...

[just Jimi]

Re: Angelic ancestors

The fact that I don't see proof of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you can't prove a negative, get it in your small, puny, chocolate-filled brain.

At least we have something in our brain....

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Angelic ancestors

Haha! You can twist and squirm and misspell "their" all you like, Peter, but Brother Bathfire has written you into a corner.

He was making a rather finely-tuned joke with "carp god" (as he said, that part of his comment was "on the humorous side") but -- like most sour, God-hating fools -- you were just too thick to twig.

I would be interested if you can prove that there is no afterlife. What you have to do here is not just say that there is no evidence that there is an afterlife; your task is to show that there is specific, positive evidence that no afterlife exists. In other words, show evidence proving that no spiritual afterlife is possible.

Good luck on that. It is a rough test.

~~ OEJ

[Peter]

Re: Angelic ancestors

I can cast pearls before swine and I may lead horses to water.
Why do you lapse into that devilish tongue? That’s Latin – are you a servant of the antichrist, the vicar of Rome?
Latin was originally the language of the Roman, and those oneliners were made by Roman philosophers. You lose, I win.

This aside, you see, God has lead you here that you may define your own problem and, in Him, find its solution: in your extreme youth, you lack experience of the world and its ways, the Bible (KJV1611) has already addressed the cry of “Carpe diem” We Christians have seized the Day of Our Lord’s Resurrection, taken its message and found Salvation™.



On the humorous side, secularists say that “Carpe diem” means “The fish is God”! (carp is a fish – diem is like Deus, I thought I ought to explain that to you) but in doing so, they forget that
(a) the fish is the sign of Christ as seen on so many automobiles
(b) St Peter’s Fish is a living proof of the holiness of Christ and His disciples.


Carpe diem: the literal translation "carpe" means "harvest" and "diem" means "day", your explanation of "diem" to be "god" is wrong, "deus" means god and "fish in Latin is "pisces".
A non-literal translation of "carpe diem" is seize the day. So you lose that one. You don't get a point for it.
So the score at half-time is "god" 0 : Scientists 2

We now look at "hic et nunc" and we read here

No surprises there – Jesus always wins. (Like when he was crucified??? Not a big victory if you ask me. And NO he didn't resurrect.)

PS, I'm sorry about the big words in the final quotation. If you want to know what they mean, ask a grown up person. Basically the quote means that you young people just want everything NOW without work or payment.

Hic et nunc means "here and now", so actually it is used to say that you should enjoy your life, because when you're dead it's over, nothing, no heaven nor hell.
And you can't escape the last one, even with worshipping a false idol (like your "god") you can't escape from it. Religious people ruin there entire life worshipping an imaginary person. Why? Because they think that there is an afterlife. And there ain't no afterlife.
End of the match: "god": still 0 Scientists:4.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Angelic ancestors

You shouldn't quote nonsense, it isn't good for you.

I can cast pearls before swine and I may lead horses to water.

I can give you two oneliners who illustrate how you should live your life: "Carpe diem" and "hic et nunc".

Why do you lapse into that devilish tongue? That’s Latin – are you a servant of the antichrist, the vicar of Rome?

This aside, you see, God has lead you here that you may define your own problem and, in Him, find its solution: in your extreme youth, you lack experience of the world and its ways, the Bible (KJV1611) has already addressed the cry of “Carpe diem” We Christians have seized the Day of Our Lord’s Resurrection, taken its message and found Salvation™.

On the humorous side, secularists say that “Carpe diem” means “The fish is God”! (carp is a fish – diem is like Deus, I thought I ought to explain that to you) but in doing so, they forget that
(a) the fish is the sign of Christ as seen on so many automobiles
(b) St Peter’s Fish is a living proof of the holiness of Christ and His disciples.

So the score at half-time is God 2 : Heathens 0

We now look at "hic et nunc" and we read here

The result is that the term church, in accordance with the polluted pattern of our reductionistic and relativistic age, has been shorn of its transcendent character, stripped of its Christological essence, divested of its soteriological dimension, and has become ingloriously bogged down in the shifting quicksand of rank immanentism, that is, the deplorable fixation with satisfying and serving the demands of the hic et nunc, of the here and now. At best, current evangelicalism portrays, as one writer has said, “a jellyfish kind of Christianity– one without any distinctive bone, muscle, sinew? one that is a very distant relative to that witnessed in Scripture.

So at the end of the game, the final score is God 3 : Heathens 0

No surprises there – Jesus always wins.

PS, I'm sorry about the big words in the final quotation. If you want to know what they mean, ask a grown up person. Basically the quote means that you young people just want everything NOW without work or payment.

[Peter]

Re: Angelic ancestors

The following is written by C.H.Spurgeon, probably the lamest Craptist spastor until the coming of spastor Deacon Fred:*Psalms:2:4

Do you get the message? that you shouldn't do doggystyle?

You shouldn't quote nonsense, it isn't good for you. Do something with your life and don't worship someone who doesn't exist. I can give you two oneliners who illustrate how you should live your life: "Carpe diem" and "hic et nunc".

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Angelic ancestors

You're always asking for proof, and now you say that it isn't necessary??
Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert

The following is written by C.H.Spurgeon, probably the greatest Baptist Pastor until the coming of Pastor Deacon Fred:

The first time our young dog heard the thunder it startled him. He leaped up, gazed around in anger, and then began to bark at the disturber of his peace. When the next crash came he grew furious, and flew round the room, seeking to tear in pieces the intruder who dared thus to defy him. It was an odd scene. The yelping of a dog pitted against the artillery of heaven! Poor foolish creature, to think that his bark could silence the thunder-clap, or intimidate the tempest! What was he like? His imitators are not far to seek. Among us at this particular juncture there are men of an exceedingly doggish breed who go about howling at their Maker. They endeavour to bark the Almighty out of existence, to silence the voice of his gospel, and to let him know that their rest is not to be disturbed by his warnings. We need not particularize; the creatures are often heard, and are very fond of public note, even when it takes an unfriendly form. Let them alone. They present a pitiful spectacle. We could smile at them if we did not feel much more compelled to weep. The elements of a tragedy are wrapt up in this comedy. To-day they defy their Maker, but to-morrow they may be crushed beneath his righteous indignation.

At any rate, the idea of fearing them must never occur to us; their loudest noise is vocalized folly; their malice is impotent, their fury is mere fume. "He that sitteth in the heavens doth laugh: the Lord doth have them in derision.*"—C. H. S. by C. H. Spurgeon, From the August 1883 Sword and Trowel

*Psalms:2:4

Do you get the message?

[Peter]

Re: Angelic ancestors

Please stop posting allegories to your homersexurality in this Godly forum with your rainbow posts, I am just saying that you can't possibly prove that something doesn't exist, you can only prove something exists by showing the evidence it exists, you get it, or I have to type slower? And of course I have evidence God exists, I have the unblemished, 100% accurate KJV Bible.

If accurate is a synonym for bullcrap. The bible isn't meant to be believed litterally, the writers of it , the disciples and the Jews( the old testament is Jewish!!), wrote it because they wanted to spread some sort of moral. To use your logic, you can't disprove science.

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Angelic ancestors

You're always asking for proof, and now you say that it isn't necessary??
Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert

Please stop posting allegories to your homersexurality in this Godly forum with your rainbow posts, I am just saying that you can't possibly prove that something doesn't exist, you can only prove something exists by showing the evidence it exists, you get it, or I have to type slower? And of course I have evidence God exists, I have the unblemished, 100% accurate KJV Bible.

[Peter]

Re: Angelic ancestors

The fact that I don't see proof of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you can't prove a negative, get it in your small, puny, chocolate-filled brain.

You're always asking for proof, and now you say that it isn't necessary??
Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert Contradiction alert

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Angelic ancestors

There are lots and lots of people(actually, almost the entire world, eccept for some remains of Retardville) who share my opinion, none of them have ever seen proof of angels, even you haven't seen it.

The fact that I don't see proof of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you can't prove a negative, get it in your small, puny, chocolate-filled brain.

[Peter]

Re: Angelic ancestors

The lack of evidence does not mean the evidence of lack, Pedro... or will you say that because you don't have any pictures of your great-great-great grandfather, or fossils, or his footprint in your head, he didn't exist? You cannot prove a negative, Pedro, just because you say so...

There are lots and lots of people(actually, almost the entire world, eccept for some remains of Retardville) who share my opinion, none of them have ever seen proof of angels, even you haven't seen it.

[Brother V]

Re: Angelic ancestors

That's a matter for debate, Brother, for most people of that time were killed during the flood, and since we know Noah's genealogy, and we all come from Noah, the only chance would be that his wife or his sons' wives would descend from said angels...

Brother, the Nephilim all died in the flood. Some people claim that it was because of them that the LORD sent the flood.

Noah's offspring (and all mankind for that matter) were pure blooded human.

How do we know that Noah was a pure human, check the bible (KJV1611).

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

So we see the "sons of God" came in unto *snicker* the daughters of men. There is no mention of "daughters of God" being came in unto'ed by sons of men. We also see that their children were only men, mighty men, men of renown.

So this brings us back to Noah.

Genesis 5 lists Noah's lineage.

Adam, Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah.

So, we start with Adam, and go to Noah. All boys. Since we learned that the "sons of God" only came in unto the pretty girls, we know that Noah was pure and not of angelic descent.

PRAISE JESUS
YIC
V

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Angelic ancestors

I read in Genesis 6 that angels (the Sons of God) once "co-habitated" with human women and had children (called Nephilim). Does this mean that some people can trace their geneology back to an angel?

That's a matter for debate, Brother, for most people of that time were killed during the flood, and since we know Noah's genealogy, and we all come from Noah, the only chance would be that his wife or his sons' wives would descend from said angels...

[Dr. Otto Bond Sr.]

Re: Angelic ancestors

So Pedro, you decided to crawl out from under your rock just to persecute me? I'm honored. Praise Jesus that He counted me worthy to suffer in His name! See, sinner! Everything that you intend for evil is just storing up goodies for me in Heaven. Beaten at your own game. Ha!