[John Bois Ward]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

Ok,I just called my JW friend to show him what you just linked and he laugh at a lot of those claims...

here is what he said or reacted to:

1. God is not a Trinity; the doctrine is inspired by the Devil - no where in the Bible or in Jesus' teaching does it mention anything about the Holy Trinity, this is an man made invention
2. Jesus is not to be worshiped or prayed to-he is only an angel (a.k.a. Michael the archangel) - they prey in the name of Lord Jesus
3. Jesus Christ is a "created being," who at one time did not exist - well God did create him at one time or another
4. The Holy Spirit is not a person but is "God's active force" i.e. gravity, electricity etc.
5. Heaven is hope only for select Jehovah's Witnesses. The majority of JWs hope to live on "paradise earth" o heaven to select Chosen Ones and paradise on earth for the rest, read the book of Revelations well and you'll see
6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.There are only 9,105 alive today (2006 figures) - not true, 144,000 Chosen ONES, they were not called JWs back in Jesus' days, that includes the Apostles
7. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only "true Christians." All churches and denominations are considered "false religion" -
8. There is no Hell or eternal judgment ("Hell" is simply the grave) - there is no hell, after death there is nothing, like a deep sleep if you will, until resurrection of course
9. There is no life after death except for the 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses - not for now, but when God's Kingdom is restored on earth, resurrection will bring back the dead
10. Salvation is earned only by being a loyal Jehovah's Witness - my friend;s reaction what's that all about?
11. Jesus second coming happened invisibly and secretly in 1914 - invisibly yes, but secretly, wow! how can that be when Satan was cast and condemned to the earth in 1914, have you noticed that the world has not been the same since 1914?
12. The "first resurrection" occurred in 1918 - resurrection of the 144,000 Chosen ONES
13. Jesus did not rise from the dead bodily but as a spirit being - true, but he did appear in a bodily form to the Apostles to prove it was him
14. Jesus was equal to Adam (just a man) - not true, Jesus came to break what Adam caused, Adam was "born" perfect, so it took a perfect person to fix it
15. Jesus could have sinned and failed in his mission - not true, Jesus was a perfect being
16. Jesus was not born the savior but became the savior at his baptism - why did angel Gabriel say that he would the Savior then?
17. God is not omnipresent - not true, God is everywhere, he sees all, hears all and knows all
18. God is not omniscient - true, God knows all
19. JWs are not sure of their salvation - Satan rules this world
20. All earthly governments are controlled by the Devil
21. The Holy Spirit is only available to select Jehovah's Witnesses - not so tue, if need be Holy Spirit can be obtained when in dire need
22. They are forbidden to serve in the military - true
23. They are forbidden to buy Girl Scout cookies - true, indirectly Girls scout and boy scout are part of military forms
30. They are forbidden to celebrate any holidays (Christmas, Easter, etc.) - Pagan Holidays to them
31. They are forbidden to celebrate their birthday - note only 3 birthdays are mentioned in the Bible and all 3 accounts are bad happenings,nothing to put any one in glory, glory belongs to God
32. They are forbidden to run for or hold a political office - they do not participate in any politics
33. They are forbidden to vote in any political campaign - see above
34. They are forbidden to serve on a jury -not true, but also depends on court case type
35. They are forbidden to own or wear a cross - cross is not a belief of theirs, Jesus was nailed to a post,and Roman History proves this, the cross came around about 300 yrs after Christ
36. They are forbidden to speak to former members who are shunned (disfellowshipped) - depends on the situation
37. They are forbidden to accept Christmas gifts - not true
38. They are forbidden to purchase Christian products (books, music, plaques, pictures etc.)
39. They are forbidden to read Christian literature - their own literature is said to be Christian
40. They are forbidden to have friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses - not true, I have a friend that is JW
41. They are forbidden to marry a non-Jehovah's Witness - not forbidden, but not encouraged and is not seen as a good example for the rest of the congregation
42. They are forbidden to salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag - that is considered as idolatry, must worship God only
43. They are forbidden to say "God bless you" when someone sneezes. Why would God need to bless you?
44. They are forbidden to have a tattoo - not true, my friend has a tattoo, they must refrain from getting more
45. They are forbidden to use pet foods made with blood or blood products - Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
46. They are forbidden to donate blood or their organs - not true blood true but not organs
47. They are forbidden to read any anti-Jehovah's Witness material
48. They are forbidden to interpret the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it
49. They are forbidden to wear any Christian jewelry
50. They are forbidden to support their country and be patriotic - their oath is to God only
51. They are forbidden to be involved in martial arts, boxing or wrestling -my friend watches Wrestling
52. They are forbidden to join any clubs or sports teams -
53. They are forbidden to participate in a school play -not true, my friends kid participate on non-meeting nights
54. They are forbidden to use any tobacco products - must remain pure from all toxins like drugs and tobacco
55. They are forbidden to attend the funeral of an ex-Jehovah's Witness - depends on situation
56. They are forbidden to say "good luck" -
57. They are forbidden to be a police officer - why risk your life when it can be avoided
58. Women are forbidden pray in the presence of men without a hat or head covering - so says the Bible 1 Cor 11:4-6
59. They are forbidden to play chess - Not true, my friend and play chess all the time at his house
60. They are forbidden to wear jade jewelry -My friend's reaction, HUH?
61. They must not own wind-chimes (they are for chasing away evil spirits) - They must pray God to chase evil spirits away, not rely on physical things
62. They must read and study Watchtower literature regularly - what real religious person does not read their own religions publications?
63. They must go from door to door weekly to gain converts - not so true, to preach the good news of God's Kingdom
64. They must attend five meetings per week - like most religions require their members to attend their church meetings/gospels
65. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage - my friends reaction: HUH?
66. Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Halls have no windows - yeah okay, this totally stupid, I pass one every day and those things that resembles windows are windows, then I don't know what you call them
67. If they witness another Jehovah's Witness breaking the rules they must report them to the elders to be interrogated - first they tried to get the wrongdoer to go see the pastor/elders themselves and confess and seek pastoral aid
68. They are forbidden to take a blood transfusion - Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
69. Men are forbidden wear beards - one of my friend's JW friend has a beard, but it is not well seen
70. The Watchtower organization is God's prophet on earth today -
71. Women must submit to the authority of Watchtower elders - and yours does not???
72. They must forgo vacations to attend annual conventions - my friend's reaction : WHAT?? Stupidity!!!
73. They must study Watchtower books at least six months before they can be baptized - not true, when the person feels ready and answers the 80 questions, sort of a test of knowledge, then they can get baptized
74. Before baptism, one must answer over 80 Bible questions with Scripture references in front of a panel of elders
75. Most of The Book of Revelation applies to the Jehovah's Witnesses - applies to the last days of the system of things
76. They cannot celebrate Mothers or Fathers day (it may produce pride) - nothing to put any one in glory, glory belongs to God
77. Kingdom Halls cannot have pews for seating - true they have padded chairs
78. They must appear before a Judicial Committee if they are caught breaking Watchtower rules (Secret files are kept on all members which record these meetings-these files are kept in New York and are never destroyed) The New York thing is far fetched, files are kept at the congregation's Kingdom Hall, but the rules talked about are the Bible's not Watchtower's
79. All pastors are the "Antichrist" - never heard that before, reaction from my friend
80. All churches are of Satan - Satan is ruler of this world until Jesus ties him and puts him away
81. God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York
82. They are discouraged from attending college - Not true, my friend went through college and some of JW friends did the same
83. The Lord's supper is only to be eaten by select Jehovah's Witnesses (144,000 group-99.99% of Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden from taking the Lord's supper) - true only the Chosen Ones can partake
84. The Lord's supper can only be celebrated annually - Jesus to celebrate this as a memorial to him, usually a memorial is annually on the same date once a year
85. JWs in times of crisis, are strongly discouraged from consulting with family counselors, including mental health professionals who are not Jehovah's Witnesses - ok, why has my friend's sister need to see a psychiatrist then and then consulted a psychologist, which both were not JWs
86. Only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon -not true only people with a true heart condition towards God will survive
87. If they have a non-Witness spouse their first loyalty is to the elders over their spouse - HUH what's that all about, reaction from my friend
88. Angels direct the Watchtower organization - Angels are the ones that guide God earthly organization
89. Judgment day is 1000 years long - my friend's reaction: HUH???
90. If you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or are expelled from the organization you will not be resurrected - not true, only Jesus has the power to judge for the resurrection
91. Only Jehovah's Witness prayers are heard by God - that is why they have people say to them when they go door to door, funny how come you came after I just finished praying to God???
92. Man's salvation is secondary in God's plan; Jesus was sent to "vindicate Jehovah's name"
93. God will destroy all non-Jehovah's Witnesses at Armageddon - Not true, they are not the final judges again...
94. They are strongly discouraged from giving to charity (except Watchtower causes) - funny how this is mentioned, because I know for a fact that is not true, My friend's wife has Multiple Sclerosis and they donated some monies to them for research
95. They must never enter a church building - depends on the person's conscience
96. They must never attend a church service - see above
97. They are discouraged from buying a two door car-A "Theocratic" or "spiritually strong" Jehovah's Witness will have a full size car for the door to door work - aren't 4 door cars easier to get in and out of?, especially if you have a family? BTW, I have seems some with 2 door cars
98. Men must wear short hair - Long hair looks better on women anyway
99. They must refer to all Jehovah's Witnesses as "brother" or "sister"- don't you?
100. They can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature - my friend's reaction, that's absurd, if we question it, we can make researches to see why this belief is so
101. They must report their witnessing activity to the elders - true, they have a monthly report of their door to door activities, to keep track of what goes on and the progress of each congregation member

You are a thief and can not be trusted. Compare "your" post to http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2919/reasons.html.

[Joe Rolandowsky]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

I just don't understand you people at all

Exactly, If you were true to the LORD, you would understand.

[Brother Jessup]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

Drop her like a hot potato, son. JW's are'nt even Christians. You're lucky you got out of there without being raped.

Please make a thread of your own in the "introductions" section and tell us about yourself, your church, etc.

Wise Pastor Zeke, I must respectfully disagree with your advice to our poor unfortunate new member “Sinking” (What an appropriate name for a young man dating a hell bound JW devil spawned witch woman).

The good Book, in Timothy II, states thusly:

4:1 – I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
4:2 – Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
4:3 – For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

It is apparent to me that our young Christian brother should do his best to bring his girlfriend into the fold of goodness and righteousness. He should be firm and persistent in convincing his girlfriend that her soul is eternally damned and that she must immediately disavow all belief in that horrible cult that she has been brought up in. If she resists, I suggest that Sinking convince her to come on to this board so each one of us righteous members can take a good crack at this stubborn devil woman.

Of course, if she still refuses to recant, then the kid should dump her like a load of cement! No wretched, evil she-wolf, brain washed Jehovah is worth damning one’s soul over. He must shun her post haste if she refuses to see the light!

That is all good brother,


The Honorable Brother Jessup T. Lloyd, Esq. has spoken…….Amen!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

LOL, Don't flatter yourself, I do not recognize the accuracy of your statement what so ever, BTW, other religions also use the term True Christians, trust me, I know, I have read so in all sorts of publications...

Really? Show us where, so Landover's lawyers can deal with them.

uh yeah ok, those are corporation trademark/copyrighted names, and True Christian can be used by anyone who pleases to do so, you go ahead and sue me for using that and I, the Judge and all attending will have a long hard laugh...

True Christian™ is trademarked just like Ivory and Apple.

You go ahead and name your new white soap "Ivory" and see what happens. When Procter & Gamble sue you into the Stone Age, you won't be laughing!

Here, I looked it up on Wickedpedia for you, since that's a source you'll respect:

A trademark is a type of intellectual property, and typically a name, word, phrase, logo, symbol, design, image, or a combination of these elements.[2] There is also a range of non-conventional trademarks comprising marks which do not fall into these standard categories.

The owner of a registered trademark may commence legal proceedings for trademark infringement to prevent unauthorized use of that trademark. However, registration is not required. The owner of a common law trademark may also file suit, but an unregistered mark may be protectable only within the geographical area within which it has been used or in geographical areas into which it may be reasonably expected to expand.

[FalseBibles Waiting for Email Confirmation]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

You guys just read anything you want don't you...I did not apologize to the OP, I apologized for not knowing what OP meant...always twisting other people's words around, I just don't understand you people at all, are you always this way, how can people really interact with you in every day life, and I am not talking about the religious part either...

[SUV]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

Apology accepted.

Now we're getting somewhere. Acceptance that you are a filthy sinner is the first step toward repentance.

If anyone can cure the sinner's blighted worldview it is our own Pastor Ezekiel, he of the "ewefully pretty eyes"

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

sorry for my being ignorant, ....

Apology accepted.

Now we're getting somewhere. Acceptance that you are a filthy sinner is the first step toward repentance.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

as for the OP, sorry for my being ignorant, this is the first time I have seen this internet forum abbreviation and trust me I have been and still am part of many forums of all sorts on the net....

More to the point, the OP is the one you hastily judged to be a liar, right after you quoted Jesus telling us not to judge hastily and hypocritically.

Why would I apologize

Trust me, I have tried...I was trying to date my friend's sister...so I know for a fact how it works

Maybe they wouldn't let you date their daughter because you are a jerk who goes around willy-nilly calling folks liars, and thinks that isn't anything to apologize for.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[FalseBibles Waiting for Email Confirmation]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

Can "Ivory" be trademarked or copyrighted? How about "Apple"?

Original Poster.

One of those LOOOONG-standing Internet forum abbreviations like LOL or RTFM.

uh yeah ok, those are corporation trademark/copyrighted names, and True Christian can be used by anyone who pleases to do so, you go ahead and sue me for using that and I, the Judge and all attending will have a long hard laugh...

as for the OP, sorry for my being ignorant, this is the first time I have seen this internet forum abbreviation and trust me I have been and still am part of many forums of all sorts on the net....

[FalseBibles Waiting for Email Confirmation]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

Sorry to say Bub, but I guess your friend is not a true Jehovah's witness. A heathen, nonetheless, but still not a true Jehovah's witness. Your friend is a poseur.

there you go again, you judge what/who you do not know...you are real priceless...and you sir are in the position to say so... you have been a Witness yourself? I think not...

[FalseBibles Waiting for Email Confirmation]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

What source? Do you expect the Jehovah Witlesses to tell the truth about their own cult? Not likely.

You owe Jesus an apology.

you have no love for your neighbor, how can you say those claims and you are not in cult yourself? WOW! How many member in US of A do you have? Again definition of cult:

cult :
Pronunciation:
\ˈkəlt\
Function:
noun
Usage:
often attributive
Etymology:
French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate — more at wheel
Date:
1617

1: formal religious veneration : worship2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual ; also : its body of adherents3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious ; also : its body of adherents4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book) ; especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b: the object of such devotion c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion

not that bad a thing being a cult now is it??? Please read up and get the definition correct...

[Jed_Cassidy]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

Ok,I just called my JW friend to show him what you just linked and he laugh at a lot of those claims...

here is what he said or reacted to:

1. God is not a Trinity; the doctrine is inspired by the Devil - no where in the Bible or in Jesus' teaching does it mention anything about the Holy Trinity, this is an man made invention
2. Jesus is not to be worshiped or prayed to-he is only an angel (a.k.a. Michael the archangel) - they prey in the name of Lord Jesus
3. Jesus Christ is a "created being," who at one time did not exist - well God did create him at one time or another
4. The Holy Spirit is not a person but is "God's active force" i.e. gravity, electricity etc.
5. Heaven is hope only for select Jehovah's Witnesses. The majority of JWs hope to live on "paradise earth" o heaven to select Chosen Ones and paradise on earth for the rest, read the book of Revelations well and you'll see
6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.There are only 9,105 alive today (2006 figures) - not true, 144,000 Chosen ONES, they were not called JWs back in Jesus' days, that includes the Apostles
7. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only "true Christians." All churches and denominations are considered "false religion" -
8. There is no Hell or eternal judgment ("Hell" is simply the grave) - there is no hell, after death there is nothing, like a deep sleep if you will, until resurrection of course
9. There is no life after death except for the 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses - not for now, but when God's Kingdom is restored on earth, resurrection will bring back the dead
10. Salvation is earned only by being a loyal Jehovah's Witness - my friend;s reaction what's that all about?
11. Jesus second coming happened invisibly and secretly in 1914 - invisibly yes, but secretly, wow! how can that be when Satan was cast and condemned to the earth in 1914, have you noticed that the world has not been the same since 1914?
12. The "first resurrection" occurred in 1918 - resurrection of the 144,000 Chosen ONES
13. Jesus did not rise from the dead bodily but as a spirit being - true, but he did appear in a bodily form to the Apostles to prove it was him
14. Jesus was equal to Adam (just a man) - not true, Jesus came to break what Adam caused, Adam was "born" perfect, so it took a perfect person to fix it
15. Jesus could have sinned and failed in his mission - not true, Jesus was a perfect being
16. Jesus was not born the savior but became the savior at his baptism - why did angel Gabriel say that he would the Savior then?
17. God is not omnipresent - not true, God is everywhere, he sees all, hears all and knows all
18. God is not omniscient - true, God knows all
19. JWs are not sure of their salvation - Satan rules this world
20. All earthly governments are controlled by the Devil
21. The Holy Spirit is only available to select Jehovah's Witnesses - not so tue, if need be Holy Spirit can be obtained when in dire need
22. They are forbidden to serve in the military - true
23. They are forbidden to buy Girl Scout cookies - true, indirectly Girls scout and boy scout are part of military forms
30. They are forbidden to celebrate any holidays (Christmas, Easter, etc.) - Pagan Holidays to them
31. They are forbidden to celebrate their birthday - note only 3 birthdays are mentioned in the Bible and all 3 accounts are bad happenings,nothing to put any one in glory, glory belongs to God
32. They are forbidden to run for or hold a political office - they do not participate in any politics
33. They are forbidden to vote in any political campaign - see above
34. They are forbidden to serve on a jury -not true, but also depends on court case type
35. They are forbidden to own or wear a cross - cross is not a belief of theirs, Jesus was nailed to a post,and Roman History proves this, the cross came around about 300 yrs after Christ
36. They are forbidden to speak to former members who are shunned (disfellowshipped) - depends on the situation
37. They are forbidden to accept Christmas gifts - not true
38. They are forbidden to purchase Christian products (books, music, plaques, pictures etc.)
39. They are forbidden to read Christian literature - their own literature is said to be Christian
40. They are forbidden to have friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses - not true, I have a friend that is JW
41. They are forbidden to marry a non-Jehovah's Witness - not forbidden, but not encouraged and is not seen as a good example for the rest of the congregation
42. They are forbidden to salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag - that is considered as idolatry, must worship God only
43. They are forbidden to say "God bless you" when someone sneezes. Why would God need to bless you?
44. They are forbidden to have a tattoo - not true, my friend has a tattoo, they must refrain from getting more
45. They are forbidden to use pet foods made with blood or blood products - Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
46. They are forbidden to donate blood or their organs - not true blood true but not organs
47. They are forbidden to read any anti-Jehovah's Witness material
48. They are forbidden to interpret the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it
49. They are forbidden to wear any Christian jewelry
50. They are forbidden to support their country and be patriotic - their oath is to God only
51. They are forbidden to be involved in martial arts, boxing or wrestling -my friend watches Wrestling
52. They are forbidden to join any clubs or sports teams -
53. They are forbidden to participate in a school play -not true, my friends kid participate on non-meeting nights
54. They are forbidden to use any tobacco products - must remain pure from all toxins like drugs and tobacco
55. They are forbidden to attend the funeral of an ex-Jehovah's Witness - depends on situation
56. They are forbidden to say "good luck" -
57. They are forbidden to be a police officer - why risk your life when it can be avoided
58. Women are forbidden pray in the presence of men without a hat or head covering - so says the Bible 1 Cor 11:4-6
59. They are forbidden to play chess - Not true, my friend and play chess all the time at his house
60. They are forbidden to wear jade jewelry -My friend's reaction, HUH?
61. They must not own wind-chimes (they are for chasing away evil spirits) - They must pray God to chase evil spirits away, not rely on physical things
62. They must read and study Watchtower literature regularly - what real religious person does not read their own religions publications?
63. They must go from door to door weekly to gain converts - not so true, to preach the good news of God's Kingdom
64. They must attend five meetings per week - like most religions require their members to attend their church meetings/gospels
65. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage - my friends reaction: HUH?
66. Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Halls have no windows - yeah okay, this totally stupid, I pass one every day and those things that resembles windows are windows, then I don't know what you call them
67. If they witness another Jehovah's Witness breaking the rules they must report them to the elders to be interrogated - first they tried to get the wrongdoer to go see the pastor/elders themselves and confess and seek pastoral aid
68. They are forbidden to take a blood transfusion - Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
69. Men are forbidden wear beards - one of my friend's JW friend has a beard, but it is not well seen
70. The Watchtower organization is God's prophet on earth today -
71. Women must submit to the authority of Watchtower elders - and yours does not???
72. They must forgo vacations to attend annual conventions - my friend's reaction : WHAT?? Stupidity!!!
73. They must study Watchtower books at least six months before they can be baptized - not true, when the person feels ready and answers the 80 questions, sort of a test of knowledge, then they can get baptized
74. Before baptism, one must answer over 80 Bible questions with Scripture references in front of a panel of elders
75. Most of The Book of Revelation applies to the Jehovah's Witnesses - applies to the last days of the system of things
76. They cannot celebrate Mothers or Fathers day (it may produce pride) - nothing to put any one in glory, glory belongs to God
77. Kingdom Halls cannot have pews for seating - true they have padded chairs
78. They must appear before a Judicial Committee if they are caught breaking Watchtower rules (Secret files are kept on all members which record these meetings-these files are kept in New York and are never destroyed) The New York thing is far fetched, files are kept at the congregation's Kingdom Hall, but the rules talked about are the Bible's not Watchtower's
79. All pastors are the "Antichrist" - never heard that before, reaction from my friend
80. All churches are of Satan - Satan is ruler of this world until Jesus ties him and puts him away
81. God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York
82. They are discouraged from attending college - Not true, my friend went through college and some of JW friends did the same
83. The Lord's supper is only to be eaten by select Jehovah's Witnesses (144,000 group-99.99% of Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden from taking the Lord's supper) - true only the Chosen Ones can partake
84. The Lord's supper can only be celebrated annually - Jesus to celebrate this as a memorial to him, usually a memorial is annually on the same date once a year
85. JWs in times of crisis, are strongly discouraged from consulting with family counselors, including mental health professionals who are not Jehovah's Witnesses - ok, why has my friend's sister need to see a psychiatrist then and then consulted a psychologist, which both were not JWs
86. Only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon -not true only people with a true heart condition towards God will survive
87. If they have a non-Witness spouse their first loyalty is to the elders over their spouse - HUH what's that all about, reaction from my friend
88. Angels direct the Watchtower organization - Angels are the ones that guide God earthly organization
89. Judgment day is 1000 years long - my friend's reaction: HUH???
90. If you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or are expelled from the organization you will not be resurrected - not true, only Jesus has the power to judge for the resurrection
91. Only Jehovah's Witness prayers are heard by God - that is why they have people say to them when they go door to door, funny how come you came after I just finished praying to God???
92. Man's salvation is secondary in God's plan; Jesus was sent to "vindicate Jehovah's name"
93. God will destroy all non-Jehovah's Witnesses at Armageddon - Not true, they are not the final judges again...
94. They are strongly discouraged from giving to charity (except Watchtower causes) - funny how this is mentioned, because I know for a fact that is not true, My friend's wife has Multiple Sclerosis and they donated some monies to them for research
95. They must never enter a church building - depends on the person's conscience
96. They must never attend a church service - see above
97. They are discouraged from buying a two door car-A "Theocratic" or "spiritually strong" Jehovah's Witness will have a full size car for the door to door work - aren't 4 door cars easier to get in and out of?, especially if you have a family? BTW, I have seems some with 2 door cars
98. Men must wear short hair - Long hair looks better on women anyway
99. They must refer to all Jehovah's Witnesses as "brother" or "sister"- don't you?
100. They can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature - my friend's reaction, that's absurd, if we question it, we can make researches to see why this belief is so
101. They must report their witnessing activity to the elders - true, they have a monthly report of their door to door activities, to keep track of what goes on and the progress of each congregation member

Sorry to say Bub, but I guess your friend is not a true Jehovah's witness. A heathen, nonetheless, but still not a true Jehovah's witness. Your friend is a poseur.

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Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

Listen Sword, I am married to a former Jehovah's Witness who saw the error of her ways and came running to True Christianity to escape their evil, damnable false religion. I have "the source" living here in my True Christian home. Jehovah's Witnesses reject the Trinity thus rejecting Jesus who gave His life to save us all. What can be more contemptible than to reject Jesus? God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three aspects of one being. To reject any one of the aspects of God is to spit in God's face.

BibleSword, why do you hate Jesus? Why did you choose to deceive me and this Holy forum? You led me to think you were a Godly man. There is a place in Hell for the deceivers.

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

Ok, stop with the Sword thing, read it like it should Bible's Word...the forum did not like the apostrophe...you keep claiming that I hate Jesus, how can you even claim that when you don't know me at all...I do read the Bible and I AM a Godly man, now just because our reasoning differ, does that make me Satan's tool? If you think that you have to read your Bible more carefully sir...do you have any proof of Hell as you claim it to be? If God is a loving God, why would he torment humans? Ok, if you had a child, not claiming you don't, would have him burn forever in a fire for making mistakes? if you do, then you are in no way a loving father a father would not hurt his child, if you do, then I should make a point to report you to the police...

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Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

Really, then why do they claim that god is not omniscient nor omnipresent???

Ok,I just called my JW friend to show him what you just linked and he laugh at a lot of those claims...

here is what he said or reacted to:

1. God is not a Trinity; the doctrine is inspired by the Devil - no where in the Bible or in Jesus' teaching does it mention anything about the Holy Trinity, this is an man made invention
2. Jesus is not to be worshiped or prayed to-he is only an angel (a.k.a. Michael the archangel) - they prey in the name of Lord Jesus
3. Jesus Christ is a "created being," who at one time did not exist - well God did create him at one time or another
4. The Holy Spirit is not a person but is "God's active force" i.e. gravity, electricity etc.
5. Heaven is hope only for select Jehovah's Witnesses. The majority of JWs hope to live on "paradise earth" o heaven to select Chosen Ones and paradise on earth for the rest, read the book of Revelations well and you'll see
6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.There are only 9,105 alive today (2006 figures) - not true, 144,000 Chosen ONES, they were not called JWs back in Jesus' days, that includes the Apostles
7. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only "true Christians." All churches and denominations are considered "false religion" -
8. There is no Hell or eternal judgment ("Hell" is simply the grave) - there is no hell, after death there is nothing, like a deep sleep if you will, until resurrection of course
9. There is no life after death except for the 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses - not for now, but when God's Kingdom is restored on earth, resurrection will bring back the dead
10. Salvation is earned only by being a loyal Jehovah's Witness - my friend;s reaction what's that all about?
11. Jesus second coming happened invisibly and secretly in 1914 - invisibly yes, but secretly, wow! how can that be when Satan was cast and condemned to the earth in 1914, have you noticed that the world has not been the same since 1914?
12. The "first resurrection" occurred in 1918 - resurrection of the 144,000 Chosen ONES
13. Jesus did not rise from the dead bodily but as a spirit being - true, but he did appear in a bodily form to the Apostles to prove it was him
14. Jesus was equal to Adam (just a man) - not true, Jesus came to break what Adam caused, Adam was "born" perfect, so it took a perfect person to fix it
15. Jesus could have sinned and failed in his mission - not true, Jesus was a perfect being
16. Jesus was not born the savior but became the savior at his baptism - why did angel Gabriel say that he would the Savior then?
17. God is not omnipresent - not true, God is everywhere, he sees all, hears all and knows all
18. God is not omniscient - true, God knows all
19. JWs are not sure of their salvation - Satan rules this world
20. All earthly governments are controlled by the Devil
21. The Holy Spirit is only available to select Jehovah's Witnesses - not so tue, if need be Holy Spirit can be obtained when in dire need
22. They are forbidden to serve in the military - true
23. They are forbidden to buy Girl Scout cookies - true, indirectly Girls scout and boy scout are part of military forms
30. They are forbidden to celebrate any holidays (Christmas, Easter, etc.) - Pagan Holidays to them
31. They are forbidden to celebrate their birthday - note only 3 birthdays are mentioned in the Bible and all 3 accounts are bad happenings,nothing to put any one in glory, glory belongs to God
32. They are forbidden to run for or hold a political office - they do not participate in any politics
33. They are forbidden to vote in any political campaign - see above
34. They are forbidden to serve on a jury -not true, but also depends on court case type
35. They are forbidden to own or wear a cross - cross is not a belief of theirs, Jesus was nailed to a post,and Roman History proves this, the cross came around about 300 yrs after Christ
36. They are forbidden to speak to former members who are shunned (disfellowshipped) - depends on the situation
37. They are forbidden to accept Christmas gifts - not true
38. They are forbidden to purchase Christian products (books, music, plaques, pictures etc.)
39. They are forbidden to read Christian literature - their own literature is said to be Christian
40. They are forbidden to have friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses - not true, I have a friend that is JW
41. They are forbidden to marry a non-Jehovah's Witness - not forbidden, but not encouraged and is not seen as a good example for the rest of the congregation
42. They are forbidden to salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag - that is considered as idolatry, must worship God only
43. They are forbidden to say "God bless you" when someone sneezes. Why would God need to bless you?
44. They are forbidden to have a tattoo - not true, my friend has a tattoo, they must refrain from getting more
45. They are forbidden to use pet foods made with blood or blood products - Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
46. They are forbidden to donate blood or their organs - not true blood true but not organs
47. They are forbidden to read any anti-Jehovah's Witness material
48. They are forbidden to interpret the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it
49. They are forbidden to wear any Christian jewelry
50. They are forbidden to support their country and be patriotic - their oath is to God only
51. They are forbidden to be involved in martial arts, boxing or wrestling -my friend watches Wrestling
52. They are forbidden to join any clubs or sports teams -
53. They are forbidden to participate in a school play -not true, my friends kid participate on non-meeting nights
54. They are forbidden to use any tobacco products - must remain pure from all toxins like drugs and tobacco
55. They are forbidden to attend the funeral of an ex-Jehovah's Witness - depends on situation
56. They are forbidden to say "good luck" -
57. They are forbidden to be a police officer - why risk your life when it can be avoided
58. Women are forbidden pray in the presence of men without a hat or head covering - so says the Bible 1 Cor 11:4-6
59. They are forbidden to play chess - Not true, my friend and play chess all the time at his house
60. They are forbidden to wear jade jewelry -My friend's reaction, HUH?
61. They must not own wind-chimes (they are for chasing away evil spirits) - They must pray God to chase evil spirits away, not rely on physical things
62. They must read and study Watchtower literature regularly - what real religious person does not read their own religions publications?
63. They must go from door to door weekly to gain converts - not so true, to preach the good news of God's Kingdom
64. They must attend five meetings per week - like most religions require their members to attend their church meetings/gospels
65. Only officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage - my friends reaction: HUH?
66. Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Halls have no windows - yeah okay, this totally stupid, I pass one every day and those things that resembles windows are windows, then I don't know what you call them
67. If they witness another Jehovah's Witness breaking the rules they must report them to the elders to be interrogated - first they tried to get the wrongdoer to go see the pastor/elders themselves and confess and seek pastoral aid
68. They are forbidden to take a blood transfusion - Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
69. Men are forbidden wear beards - one of my friend's JW friend has a beard, but it is not well seen
70. The Watchtower organization is God's prophet on earth today -
71. Women must submit to the authority of Watchtower elders - and yours does not???
72. They must forgo vacations to attend annual conventions - my friend's reaction : WHAT?? Stupidity!!!
73. They must study Watchtower books at least six months before they can be baptized - not true, when the person feels ready and answers the 80 questions, sort of a test of knowledge, then they can get baptized
74. Before baptism, one must answer over 80 Bible questions with Scripture references in front of a panel of elders
75. Most of The Book of Revelation applies to the Jehovah's Witnesses - applies to the last days of the system of things
76. They cannot celebrate Mothers or Fathers day (it may produce pride) - nothing to put any one in glory, glory belongs to God
77. Kingdom Halls cannot have pews for seating - true they have padded chairs
78. They must appear before a Judicial Committee if they are caught breaking Watchtower rules (Secret files are kept on all members which record these meetings-these files are kept in New York and are never destroyed) The New York thing is far fetched, files are kept at the congregation's Kingdom Hall, but the rules talked about are the Bible's not Watchtower's
79. All pastors are the "Antichrist" - never heard that before, reaction from my friend
80. All churches are of Satan - Satan is ruler of this world until Jesus ties him and puts him away
81. God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York
82. They are discouraged from attending college - Not true, my friend went through college and some of JW friends did the same
83. The Lord's supper is only to be eaten by select Jehovah's Witnesses (144,000 group-99.99% of Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden from taking the Lord's supper) - true only the Chosen Ones can partake
84. The Lord's supper can only be celebrated annually - Jesus to celebrate this as a memorial to him, usually a memorial is annually on the same date once a year
85. JWs in times of crisis, are strongly discouraged from consulting with family counselors, including mental health professionals who are not Jehovah's Witnesses - ok, why has my friend's sister need to see a psychiatrist then and then consulted a psychologist, which both were not JWs
86. Only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon -not true only people with a true heart condition towards God will survive
87. If they have a non-Witness spouse their first loyalty is to the elders over their spouse - HUH what's that all about, reaction from my friend
88. Angels direct the Watchtower organization - Angels are the ones that guide God earthly organization
89. Judgment day is 1000 years long - my friend's reaction: HUH???
90. If you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or are expelled from the organization you will not be resurrected - not true, only Jesus has the power to judge for the resurrection
91. Only Jehovah's Witness prayers are heard by God - that is why they have people say to them when they go door to door, funny how come you came after I just finished praying to God???
92. Man's salvation is secondary in God's plan; Jesus was sent to "vindicate Jehovah's name"
93. God will destroy all non-Jehovah's Witnesses at Armageddon - Not true, they are not the final judges again...
94. They are strongly discouraged from giving to charity (except Watchtower causes) - funny how this is mentioned, because I know for a fact that is not true, My friend's wife has Multiple Sclerosis and they donated some monies to them for research
95. They must never enter a church building - depends on the person's conscience
96. They must never attend a church service - see above
97. They are discouraged from buying a two door car-A "Theocratic" or "spiritually strong" Jehovah's Witness will have a full size car for the door to door work - aren't 4 door cars easier to get in and out of?, especially if you have a family? BTW, I have seems some with 2 door cars
98. Men must wear short hair - Long hair looks better on women anyway
99. They must refer to all Jehovah's Witnesses as "brother" or "sister"- don't you?
100. They can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature - my friend's reaction, that's absurd, if we question it, we can make researches to see why this belief is so
101. They must report their witnessing activity to the elders - true, they have a monthly report of their door to door activities, to keep track of what goes on and the progress of each congregation member

[JennyD]

Re: My Girlfriend is a Jehovah's Witness

No matter what you say, those words cannot be trademarked or copyrighted, they have been used will continue to be used by anybody whether you like it or not it is common knowledge and I see it allover the internet and a whole of publications out there in this cruel world...

Can "Ivory" be trademarked or copyrighted? How about "Apple"?

Who is this "OP" you keep mentioning?

Original Poster.

One of those LOOOONG-standing Internet forum abbreviations like LOL or RTFM.