[David Goldman]

Re: Some Things that we can agree upon

Would you not give them one last kiss goodbye?

No way!

What if they died of plague, or drowned and they didn't find the body for a week, or they died in a fire, or they were mauled wild jackals?

Not only is it gross, but it is dangerous too. Didn't your parents ever tell you not to touch dead things? They carry disease and stuff

[Nobar King]

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Would you not give them one last kiss goodbye?

No. I watched my mother die. I didn't touch her after she passed. Why would I? I didn't even want to be near her dead body. She was taken away by the mortuary, and they gave me one last chance to view the body, but it wasn't inspiring at all. I felt like a voyeur who was seeing something that shouldn't be seen.

I kept her ashes, but I don't venerate them. I try to honor her memory by being a good son and praising our Lord. That's the least that I can do.

I think that it's ironic that our local mortuary went out of business right after she died. It wasn't because they didn't charge enough, that's for sure.

[A Mad Dog]

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No Yes.

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Don't you love them? Would you not give them one last kiss goodbye?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Let me ask you this, if one of your loved ones died, would you give them a kiss or not?

No

If yes, then would you consider that necrophilia?

Yes.

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

[A Mad Dog]

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sr korgul wrote,

I assumed that kissing the bones of dead catholics was an act of worship.

No, it is veneration.

The only other possible explanation is necrophily. Are you suggesting that this is the true reason?

Let me ask you this, if one of your loved ones died, would you give them a kiss or not? If yes, then would you consider that necrophilia?

[A Mad Dog]

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It's interesting that the origin of the verb 'to bugger' is from the Medieval Latin: Bulgarus, which is also known as a Bulgarian heretic. The Bulgarians were among the first adopters of the Catholic faith, and are considered a patriarchate. It's no wonder that they were the first to approve of the systematic molestation of young altar boys. Centuries later, you still can't trust the Bulgarians.

Actually the Bulgarians were not the first to be converted to the Catholic Faith.

During the reign of Khan Omurtag (814-831), the northwestern boundaries with the Frankish Empire were firmly settled along the middle Danube. A magnificent palace, pagan temples, ruler's residence, fortress, citadel, water-main and bath were built in the Bulgarian capital Pliska, mainly of stone and brick.
Under Boris I, Bulgarians became Christians, and the Ecumenical Patriarch agreed to allow an autonomous Bulgarian Archbishop at Pliska. Missionaries from Constantinople, Cyril and Methodius, devised the Glagolitic alphabet, which was adopted in the Bulgarian Empire around 886. The alphabet and the Old Bulgarian language that evolved from Slavonic[3] gave rise to a rich literary and cultural activity centered around the Preslav and Ohrid Literary Schools, established by order of Boris I in 886.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bulgaria

[A Mad Dog]

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It's what your papist "fathers" do to altar boys every chance they get.

Don't play coy with us, ring-kisser.

I have never heard of that term before. I guess you learn something new everyday.

[Isabella Abbey]

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It's interesting that the origin of the verb 'to bugger' is from the Medieval Latin: Bulgarus, which is also known as a Bulgarian heretic. The Bulgarians were among the first adopters of the Catholic faith, and are considered a patriarchate. It's no wonder that they were the first to approve of the systematic molestation of young altar boys. Centuries later, you still can't trust the Bulgarians.

But the Vatican hated the Bulgarians. That's why they came up with derisive terms for them and called them heretics and worse, because they staunchly and successfully refused Rome.

The Baptists and the Bulgarians have a common enemy.

[sr korgul]

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Sr. Korgul wrote,


I beg your pardon. The only One we worship is the Triune God.

I assumed that kissing the bones of dead catholics was an act of worship. It was a benevolent assumption. The only other possible explanation is necrophily. Are you suggesting that this is the true reason?

[QUOTE]The Scriptures never teach that it and it alone is the only authority. In fact, it says otherwise, e.g. 2 Thess. 2:14-15, Matt. 18:17-18/QUOTE]
Your quotations either talk about expedient tradition (wich, by the way, it's not law as per Mark 7:3,5) or the direct oral teaching of the apostles. Since the Bible was completed, oral teaching become useless.

[QUOTE]1. Where does it say that it and it alone is the Word of God?

2. Where does it say what Books should even be in it?/QUOTE]
Matthew 24:35 teaches that His Word will always be preserved. So we know that at least a trustful Bible come to us. All evidences point to the KJV 1611 (Praise!). By the way, Pastor Ezekiel has written an essay on the subject that clarify every possible doubt.

[QUOTE]Elaborate please. I think I know what you are saying but I want you to clear it up for me./QUOTE] God surely know how to speak clearly. You don't need interpretation of His Word. You just need to do as He says. It's pretty clear.

[Larry Lee]

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It's interesting that the origin of the verb 'to bugger' is from the Medieval Latin: Bulgarus, which is also known as a Bulgarian heretic. The Bulgarians were among the first adopters of the Catholic faith, and are considered a patriarchate. It's no wonder that they were the first to approve of the systematic molestation of young altar boys. Centuries later, you still can't trust the Bulgarians.

Fascinating. And to top it off, nowadays a lot of them are Mudslime.

[Nobar King]

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It's interesting that the origin of the verb 'to bugger' is from the Medieval Latin: Bulgarus, which is also known as a Bulgarian heretic. The Bulgarians were among the first adopters of the Catholic faith, and are considered a patriarchate. It's no wonder that they were the first to approve of the systematic molestation of young altar boys. Centuries later, you still can't trust the Bulgarians.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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What does "buggering" mean?

It's what your papist "fathers" do to altar boys every chance they get.

Don't play coy with us, ring-kisser.

[A Mad Dog]

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Sr. Korgul wrote,

Why do you prefer worshipping dead catholics then?

I beg your pardon. The only One we worship is the Triune God.

This show just how much you belive in the infallible, inerrant Scriptures

I'm not going to go through all of that to show you all of the inconsistencies. I will look at the ones you point to:

So scripture for you is not enough. It's interesting that the catholics quote a passage of the Scripture that warn against the evil practice of "interpretating" and use it to "prove" that we should just listen to their interpretation.

The Scriptures never teach that it and it alone is the only authority. In fact, it says otherwise, e.g. 2 Thess. 2:14-15, Matt. 18:17-18

a) Because the Bible itself say so

1. Where does it say that it and it alone is the Word of God?

2. Where does it say what Books should even be in it?

b) Why on Earth you should have an interpetation? You have to follow the bible You have not to "interpret" it.

Elaborate please. I think I know what you are saying but I want you to clear it up for me.

I'm not aware of children buggering being counted among the moral issues of any baptist church.

What does "buggering" mean?

[sr korgul]

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3. The divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ

Why do you prefer worshipping dead catholics then?

6. The infallible, inerrant Scriptures.

This show just how much you belive in the infallible, inerrant Scriptures

http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/num6.htm

Some interesting quotation from that papist attack to the Bible

(2) Scripture alone is not perspicuous enough (cf. 2 Peter 3:16) to resolve major doctrinal disputes or moral teachings

So scripture for you is not enough. It's interesting that the catholics quote a passage of the Scripture that warn against the evil practice of "interpretating" and use it to "prove" that we should just listen to their interpretation.

(1) the fact of over 20,000 Protestant denominations and sects in contrast to the unity of faith (Eph 4:5) in the Catholic Church

How specious can they get: Using such logic you could also say "In fact there are over 20000 non-mormon bapyist denomination in contrast to the unity of the faith of the mormon cult"

(4) SS implies nobody is bound to any interpretation but their own since all "churches" and any "traditions" are fallible

(4) Scripture alone -- being an inanimate object -- can't make any infallible and binding decisions concerning either canon or any (mis)interpretation -- Scripture is simply assumed by definition to be "self-interpreting" and "self-authenticating" without need of any infallible Church -- this begs two important questions

(a) How do I know the Bible *IS* the Word of God?

(b) How do I know *MY* interpretation of Scripture is correct?

a) Because the Bible itself say so

b) Why on Earth you should have an interpetation? You have to follow the bible You have not to "interpret" it.
All Catholic arguments are based on that false and absurd assumption.

7. Moral issues.

I'm not aware of children buggering being counted among the moral issues of any baptist church.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I've been busy lately.

Did they let you out early for good behavior?

What's your parole officer's name?