[MikeyMilam]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

you guys are dicks. go burn a nigger, or whatever it is you fundies do.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

because i wanted answers. maybe i could find a reason to be a christian. i wanted to learn and to understand you, but it looks like there's nothing to understand. you believe what you believe just because. i no longer have any sympathy at all for hateful people like you.

Oh no, it's all my fault you're not a Christian all because you came here and insulted us and we didn't kiss your ass

You have been offered many answers, you ignore them because "uz 2 dam smrt fur us kristans, ayup".

You refuse to look at links that are given to you. You claim that any atheist who does anything bad isn't a "real athiest". Basically, you're full of crap.

You did not come here to learn. You came here because Jesus gave you a nudge to find the truth, but this has enraged the demons in your rectum so badly that you can't help but react violently.

You want to learn? Pick up a KJV Bible and start reading. Then we can talk.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

the idea that people guide themselves to treat others with uncommanded and unconditional love and respect (what REAL atheists believe in)

So when "REAL" atheists like the fans on PZ Myers' blog say that people who believe in God should all be summarily executed or at least sterilized, they aren't actually "REAL" atheists after all?

What about the "REAL" atheists who condemn the atheists who think it's OK to treat people of faith with respect? The "REAL" atheists call them "Faitheists" and ridicule and despise them as "accommodationists".

Who is the "REAL" atheist?

this is why nobody takes you kooks seriously! you jump down the throats of people who don't share your crazy ideas and don't even have the courtesy to tell why.

You mean that we don't welcome people who join our Christian church forum uninvited and unwelcome, and then ask the same question 15 times because they aren't getting the answer they like?

everyone has a right to believe what they want to believe, but not to oppress and degrade people who believe differently.

I agree. And only those who believe what God says to believe go to Heaven. All the rest go to Hell, and that is their choice.

christians are no different than nazis or communists.

That would require Nazis to be the same as Communists.

a = b
a = c

therefore, b = c.

Are Nazis the same as Communists? Or do you not comprehend basic logic?

the bible condones more senseless killing and rape and torment than any clear headed human should be able to conceive.

You mean the eternal torture of billions yet to come? Yes, that is hard to comprehend. I fail to understand why people choose that fate.

we are lucky as the human race that bigots and fundamentalists like you are a minority.

Christians are 78% of the American population. The Republican Party and the Tea Party are dominated by the Religious Right, and right now Tea Party candidates like Rand Paul and Sharron Angle are LEADING in polls.

Yes, two "fundamentalist bigots" are leading over the "rational secular Demoncrats" you would support.

Meanwhile, atheists comprise less than 1% of the American population.

talking sense into you is about as effective as shouting at an angry child with down syndrome.

You haven't tried to talk sense. You have tried to harass and harangue us into abandoning God and denying His Word, so we can join you in Hell.

How is that "talking sense"?

[MikeyMilam]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

Personally, I don't care whether you believe or not. If you want to spend your eternity in Hell, by all means it's your choice. After all, that's what free will is all about.

Now you may have noticed, but we're not the ones who barged into a Christian forum screaming about false atheists and how all Christians are evil. If you didn't want to discuss the LORD why did you sign up in the first place?

because i wanted answers. maybe i could find a reason to be a christian. i wanted to learn and to understand you, but it looks like there's nothing to understand. you believe what you believe just because. i no longer have any sympathy at all for hateful people like you.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

this is why nobody takes you kooks seriously! .

O RLY?



Atheists identified as America’s most distrusted minority

Quote:
Given the increasing religiosity of American culture, it's perhaps not too surprising that a new study out this month finds that Americans are not fond of atheists and trust them less than they do other groups. The depth of this distrust is a bit astonishing nonetheless.
More than 2,000 randomly selected people were interviewed by researchers from the University of Minnesota.
Asked whether they would disapprove of a child's wish to marry an atheist, 47.6 percent of those interviewed said yes. Asked the same question about Muslims and African-Americans, the yes responses fell to 33.5 percent and 27.2 percent, respectively. The yes responses for Asian-Americans, Hispanics, Jews and conservative Christians were 18.5 percent, 18.5 percent, 11.8 percent and 6.9 percent, respectively.
When asked which groups did not share their vision of American society, 39.5 percent of those interviewed mentioned atheists. Asked the same question about Muslims and homosexuals, the figures dropped to a slightly less depressing 26.3 percent and 22.6 percent, respectively. For Hispanics, Jews, Asian-Americans and African-Americans, they fell further to 7.6 percent, 7.4 percent, 7.0 percent and 4.6 percent, respectively.
The study contains other results, but these are sufficient to underline its gist: Atheists are seen by many Americans (especially conservative Christians) as alien and are, in the words of sociologist Penny Edgell, the study's lead researcher, "a glaring exception to the rule of increasing tolerance over the last 30 years."
Edgell also maintains that atheists seem to be outside the limits of American morality, which has largely been defined by religion.
Many of those interviewed saw atheists as cultural elitists, amoral materialists, or given to criminal behavior or drugs. She states, "Our findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as self-interested individuals who are not concerned with the common good."
Of course, it should go without saying, but won't, that belief in God isn't at all necessary to have a keen ethical concern for others.
The study will appear in the April issue of the American Sociological Review and is co-written by assistant professor Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Doug Hartmann.

That's right. America hates atheists even more than gays and Muslims.

[MikeyMilam]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

this is why nobody takes you kooks seriously! you jump down the throats of people who don't share your crazy ideas and don't even have the courtesy to tell why. it just goes to show that the world would be far better off i religion wasn't invented in the first place. everyone has a right to believe what they want to believe, but not to oppress and degrade people who believe differently. christians are no different than nazis or communists. the bible condones more senseless killing and rape and torment than any clear headed human should be able to conceive. its because the writers of the bible were not clear headed. the same goes for every revealed religion and their holy book. there is no clear answer, only ignorant rationalization. we are lucky as the human race that bigots and fundamentalists like you are a minority. your no better than the terrorists in the middle east. talking sense into you is about as effective as shouting at an angry child with down syndrome.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

as if any of you haven't shifted it. you want to go back to the basics, fine. then tell me why i should believe in A god. then tell my why i should believe in YOUR god. if you can satisfy this, then we'll be done here.

Personally, I don't care whether you believe or not. If you want to spend your eternity in Hell, by all means it's your choice. After all, that's what free will is all about.

Now you may have noticed, but we're not the ones who barged into a Christian forum screaming about false atheists and how all Christians are evil. If you didn't want to discuss the LORD why did you sign up in the first place?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

as if any of you haven't shifted it. you want to go back to the basics, fine. then tell me why i should believe in A god. then tell my why i should believe in YOUR god. if you can satisfy this, then we'll be done here.

No you have it backwards. Tell us why you shouldn't believe in our God. The burden of proof is on the one who fails to assert the claim first.

[Lisa H]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

as if any of you haven't shifted it. you want to go back to the basics, fine. then tell me why i should believe in A god. then tell my why i should believe in YOUR god. if you can satisfy this, then we'll be done here.

Mikey you originally asked why God hated you from Leviticus 18:22. Why are you unable to stay on topic of the thread you started.

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

[MikeyMilam]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

Hmm, isn't it interesting how it has shifted the conversation when it realized it was losing the debate?

Stay on topic or be banned, troll.

as if any of you haven't shifted it. you want to go back to the basics, fine. then tell me why i should believe in A god. then tell my why i should believe in YOUR god. if you can satisfy this, then we'll be done here.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

how isn't it? the pope does say he is the true emissary god. ITS TRUE BECAUSE HE SAYS SO!!! oh wait, thats your line, isnt it

Hmm, isn't it interesting how it has shifted the conversation when it realized it was losing the debate?

Stay on topic or be banned, troll.

[MikeyMilam]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

They worship the goddess Mary, and confess to a man in black robes. How is that Christian?

how isn't it? the pope does say he is the true emissary god. ITS TRUE BECAUSE HE SAYS SO!!! oh wait, thats your line, isnt it

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

Thank you sister Handmaiden. You are very right about Margaret Singer.

However, I actually meant Peter Singer. Seems there is no end to the list of evil atheists, is there?

PETER SINGER (Bioethicist)
Singer, by trying to be more broadminded than is reasonable, has created a philosophy that actually dehumanizes people, reducing them to points of consciousness that are indistinguishable from those of many non-human animals. Therefore, what is of primary importance for the Princeton bioethicists is not the existence of the being in question, but its quality of life. But this process of dehumanization leads directly to discrimination against those whose quality of life is not sufficiently developed. Singer has little choice but to divide humanity into those who have a preferred state of life from those who do not. In this way, his broad egalitarianism decays into a narrow preferentialism:
When we reject belief in God we must give up the idea that life on this planet has some preordained meaning. Life as a whole has no meaning. Life began, as the best available theories tell us, in a chance combination of gasses; it then evolved through random mutation and natural selection. All this just happened; it did not happen to any overall purpose. Now that it has resulted in the existence of beings who prefer some states of affairs to others, however, it may be possible for particular lives to be meaningful. In this sense some atheists can find meaning in life.
Life can be meaningful for an atheist when he is able to spend his life in a "preferred state." The atheistic perspective here does not center on people, however, it centers on happiness. This curious preference for happiness over people engenders a rather chilling logic. It is not human life or the existing human being that is good, but the "preferred state." Human life is not sacrosanct, but a certain kind of life can be "meaningful." If one baby is disabled, does it not make sense to kill it and replace it with one who is not and "therefore" has a better chance for happiness? "When the death of the disabled infant," writes Singer, "will lead to the birth of another infant with better prospects of a happy life, the total amount of happiness will be greater if the disabled infant is killed.
According to this avant garde thinker, unborn babies or neonates, lacking the requisite consciousness to qualify as persons, have less right to continue to live than an adult gorilla. By the same token, a suffering or disabled child would have a weaker claim not to be killed than a mature pig. Singer writes, in Rethinking Life and Death:

Human babies are not born self-aware or capable of grasping their lives over time. They are not persons. Hence their lives would seem to be no more worthy of protection that the life of a fetus.

And writing specifically about Down syndrome babies, he advocates trading a disabled or defective child (one who is apparently doomed to too much suffering) for one who has better prospects for happiness:

We may not want a child to start on life's uncertain voyage if the prospects are clouded. When this can be known at a very early stage in the voyage, we may still have a chance to make a fresh start. This means detaching ourselves from the infant who has been born, cutting ourselves free before the ties that have already begun to bind us to our child have become irresistible. Instead of going forward and putting all our effort into making the best of the situation, we can still say no, and start again from the beginning."

[handmaiden]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

Singer is Margret Singer, founder of Planned Parenthood, the foremost terrorist organization in the world.

She is responsible for more deaths than ANYONE, because she encouraged and distributed birth control which is the killing of unconceived souls by preventing the seed of men, which God created and directed to the production of life, from reaching the eggs of females.

There are countless billions upon billions of spent sperm which have been condemned to death because of the vile activities of people like Singer.

At the very beginning of the world, God decreed that the people that He created should go forth and multiply. His primary tool for creating human life after the first two that He sculpted by hand has been the copious seed of men. If it wasn't so important to Him, He wouldn't have provided men with so much of it.


ALL of the gazillions of sperm produced in the testes of men throughout human existence contain the soul source-- any waste or misdirection of that precious resource is a grave sin, indeed.

Singer and all homosexuals are in many ways, the ultimate abomination. They are killers and condemners of souls that God Himself fashioned to give glory to Him. Murdering one, or a few million people, is nothing compared to that. Physical death is nothing next to spiritual condemnation.

Those who place any sort of stumbling block before a soul that robs it of its chance to know God are vicious beyond human comprehension.


Somberly Yours,

Handmaiden

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Jesus hates Fags.

don't link to yourself until you establish your own credibility

I didn't write it. In fact IF you had bothered looking at the link, it would have shown you how Biblically incorrect the Catholics are.

But hey, don't let a little education get in the way of your intelligence, after all, you and your mommy know how smart you are; she tells you that every day.