[blendmaster345]

Re: Atheist fallacies

A fallacy is an error in reasoning or logic.
Begging the question. Also known as circular reasoning. This is when a claim is assumed to be true without any evidence to support it other than the claim itself. For example, atheists presuppose that God doesn’t exist and then claim that all evidence supporting the existence of God must be flawed because He doesn’t exist. We, on the other hand, know that God exists because the Bible tells us so, and we know that the Bible is reliable because it tells us it is inspired by God.

If I were God, I would/ wouldn’t… I wasn’t sure what to call this one, so I made up a name for it. Perhaps someone else on this godly forum knows the proper name. This is when people try to disprove God’s existence by claiming that if they God they would do things differently. For example, Richard Dawkins claimed that if God were real, He would have created fewer species. People often say something like, “If I were God, I wouldn’t allow suffering in the world; therefore God doesn’t exist.” Just because you might do things differently if you were God doesn’t mean God doesn’t exist. Personally, I wouldn’t do anything differently if I were God. He is perfect.

You say that Atheists use Circular Reasoning, however, when you say "I wouldn't do anything differently if I were God. He is perfect", you are using circular thinking. You say that god does everything perfectly, because god is perfect. Your only reasoning for why god is perfect seems to be because he just is.

Also, learn to use normal apostrophes.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This is the 21st century

Yes. How is word of God any less true now, than it was 400 years ago or will be in the 22nd century?

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This is the 21st century, when are you going to realise everybody thinks you're ridiculous.

We already know everyone thinks we're ridiculous.

1 Cor 1:26-29
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

Apparently even God thinks we're ridiculous, considering He had this put in the Bible.

But thank you for ridiculing and mocking us. You have now guaranteed us a blessing from God.

Mat 5:11-12 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This is the 21st century, when are you going to realise everybody thinks you're ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous to want to do the best by one's fellow man?

Why is it ridiculous to try to live life as a decent person?

Why is it ridiculous to beleive that people can live a meaningful life to the benefit of all?

I just don't understand how atheist how CHOOSE to live such an empty life: where is you sense of the wonder in the world?

YIC

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This site is absolutely ridiculous. It's like I have teleported back to 1825. Atheism is not an excuse for homosexuality, and even if it was, there is nothig wrong with being gay. I am an Atheist and I respect everyone's beliefs. It's okay to be a Christian, it's okay to be a Jew, it's okay to be a Muslim etc. But you guys just use your belief as an excuse to be a racist, homophobic, masogynistic Rodimer. Have a nice day.

Friend, wouldn't you prefer it if the homosexuals would just own up to their lifestyle choice, instead of pretending there is no God to try and justify it? It just goes to show that the pleasures of the anus are more important to homers than the risk of anal-borne illness, or even God Himself. While they transmit their AIDS ass to genital, genital to ass, genital to genital, ass to ass, ass to mouth, ass to toilet seat to ass, ass to hand to mouth to mouth, ass to child, and every other conceivable configuration, they have the audacity to deny that God is killing them, denying Him the glory that His omnipotent retribution deserves. Jesus is a hero. He sacrificed Himself temporarily on he cross and now reigns over the entire cosmos. And homers have the audacity to deny that He even exists! That, my friend, is 'ridiculous'!

Also, it is a low blow to call us names like that. It is just uncalled for. You might as well feed us to the lions.

If you would bother to read the Bible, you would know that God is explicitly on the side of those who resist homosexual oppression and institutional ass rape. It is time that Christians stood tall and declared their freedom of religion in the face of ubiquitous gay elitism.

The Republican party will never be the party of the elite, the experts, or even the intelligent. It will always remain the underdog, insuring the interests of the few with a loud voice to compensate for its humble nature.

So please, let's leave the subject of assrape behind us (where it goes), and move forward to more important subjects, like the temporary sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and the conditions necessary to receive His unconditional love. Do you think you can do that, friend?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This is the 21st century, when are you going to realise everybody thinks you're ridiculous.

I don't mind if you think I'm ridiculous.

What I'm interested in is what you mean by

I respect everyone's beliefs

[Miss Whoremonger]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This is the 21st century, when are you going to realise everybody thinks you're ridiculous.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This site is absolutely ridiculous. It's like I have teleported back to 1825.........But you guys just use your belief as an excuse to be a racist, homophobic, masogynistic Rodimer.

You mean time travel, idiot.

What is a Rodimer? I know I'm no longer hep with the kid's lingo but c'mon.

YIC

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Atheist fallacies

Wrong, only factual evidence count because they can be verified. Faith related evidences cannot so they do not count.

If I claim I have a ring in my pocket you may believe it or not, it's a question of faith and while it is in my pocket it cannot be verified.

If I take the ring off my pocket it can be verified and it's a factual proof.

Rubbish.

It can be verified. If another person saw you palm the ring into your pocket that would be evidence. You may not beleive the person (maybe he is coloured) but it would still be evidence.

When Jesus said He was God, who would you believe: Jesus or some foreigner with a potential ring in her pocket?

You need to take a few more classes in logic, young lady.

YIC

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This site is absolutely ridiculous. It's like I have teleported back to 1825. Atheism is not an excuse for homosexuality, and even if it was, there is nothig wrong with being gay. I am an Atheist and I respect everyone's beliefs.

Well, you say you do but do you respect this belief:

Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death whether small or great whether man or woman

or this:

He that sacrificeth unto any god save unto the LORD only he shall be utterly destroyed

or this:

The daughter of any priest if she profane herself by playing the whore she profaneth her father she shall be burnt with fire

?

That is what The Bible teaches. Are you suggesting that you disrespect those who respect God's Inerrant Word?

Don't take my word for it. Check it out here

remember this?
I respect everyone's beliefs

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This site is absolutely ridiculous. It's like I have teleported back to 1825. Atheism is not an excuse for homosexuality, and even if it was, there is nothig wrong with being gay.

Atheism (and any other religion that rejects the God of the Bible) leads to homosexuality and all sorts of evil. The Bible is very clear.

Rom 1:18-32
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

God's wrath is revealed against those who suppress the truth about God. And who knows the truth about God?

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Everybody. God has clearly revealed Himself through Creation.

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Even though everyone knows deep down in his heart that the God of the Bible exists and is the real God, many people deny him.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.


So whether you deny God by claiming to be an atheist or by worshipping animals or idols, the result is the same. God gives you over to all sorts of vile affections, which include homosexuality and lesbianism.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I am an Atheist and I respect everyone's beliefs. It's okay to be a Christian, it's okay to be a Jew, it's okay to be a Muslim etc. But you guys just use your belief as an excuse to be a racist, homophobic, masogynistic Rodimer.

You say you respect everyone's beliefs, but you don't seem to respect ours. You don't respect our belief that homosexuality is wrong and all fags go to hell. You don't respect our belief that women were created for the sole purpose of bearing children (1 Tim 2:15) and serving their husbands (Gen 2:18). You don't respect our belief that the descendants of Ham (blacks) are cursed (Gen 9:25-27). Our beliefs are based on the Bible, the sacred text of Christianity. What you're effectively saying is it's okay for us to be Christian as long as we abandon the Bible, the very Book that Christianity is founded on. But if we did that, we would have no moral compass, like you. And what makes you think we "use our belief"? It's almost as if you think we control our belief and just use it to justify whatever we want to do. Maybe some people do. But faith is a gift from God (Eph 2:8). I don't have hold of my belief; my belief has hold of me.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Atheist fallacies

This site is absolutely ridiculous. It's like I have teleported back to 1825. Atheism is not an excuse for homosexuality, and even if it was, there is nothig wrong with being gay. I am an Atheist and I respect everyone's beliefs. It's okay to be a Christian, it's okay to be a Jew, it's okay to be a Muslim etc. But you guys just use your belief as an excuse to be a racist, homophobic, masogynistic Rodimer. Have a nice day.

What is ridiculous about following the Word of God exactly as He spelled it out in the Bible?

If you had a shop manual that told you how to change out a transmission, would you only follow the steps that you felt like following?

[Miss Whoremonger]

Re: Atheist fallacies

Wrong, friend. Atheism is nothing but an excuse for anal sex. All atheists secretly know this, and want to indoctrinate others into the way of the militant homosexual by denying God's supreme authority. It is a massive rape pyramid scheme with Satan at the top and True Christian ™ Republicans at the bottom, but it will never happen because Jesus is with me.

This site is absolutely ridiculous. It's like I have teleported back to 1825. Atheism is not an excuse for homosexuality, and even if it was, there is nothig wrong with being gay. I am an Atheist and I respect everyone's beliefs. It's okay to be a Christian, it's okay to be a Jew, it's okay to be a Muslim etc. But you guys just use your belief as an excuse to be a racist, homophobic, masogynistic Rodimer. Have a nice day.

[Forest Spirit]

Re: Atheist fallacies

How could someone who doesn't exist live inside me?

Someone has been watching the movie Total Recall too much. QUAAAAATO LIVES!

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Atheist fallacies

But what about the Torah?

The Torah is part of the Bible. You really need to learn more about the Bible if you're going to discuss it with Christians.

Besides is not the non believers that need to prove anything, it's the believers that claim his existence. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proofs.

If you need extraordinary evidence, what about the miracles of Jesus?

Jn 10:37-38 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Jn 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

In these passages Jesus is encouraging people to believe in Him because of His miracles recorded in the Bible.

Another piece of evidence is the fact that Jesus lives inside me and inside every True Christian(tm). How could someone who doesn't exist live inside me?

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

I can also talk to God in prayer and He answers.

Mk 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

Do you think I talk to someone who doesn't exist? How could someone who doesn't exist answer my prayers?