[Brother Temperance]

Re: About Wicca.

Well this has now turned from being sent by a high Pagan order to honour the God and Goddess to a virtual battle of evidence and logic.

Wait, what? You came here because a stoned wicker ordered you to come here?

Catholocism is NOT the same as Roman Paganism with a a refference to Jesus thrown in.

Ok, it's the same as Roman Paganism with a reference to Jesus thrown in and some extra pederasty sprinkled on top. Happy now?

I'll prove that druids were ovates

Eh? Do you mean that they all stood up and clapped? They were some sort of a nasty ladypart?

As for Pagan Lord Alexander Saunders, I do do mean Alexander Saunders and not Sanders, Alexander Sanders and Gerald Gardnerian popularised the Alexandrian traddition (which was craeted by Alexander Saunders) but created the Gardnerian traddition (which was indeed created in 1951) here's a site that explains that Alexander Saunders created the Alexandrian tradition: www.PaganLore.com/paths.aspx (if that's blocked it's not my fault).

And you're claiming that he was a dago who did all this during the Spanish inquisition? You are clearly all mushy in the head. Are you talking about this guy?

Having sold his gown-piece to a lady, he would make-up the dress in the house of the customer. Latterly, he gave up this travelling trade and settled in Tarbolton, where he eventually owned several houses in the village, and where he also held several offices, as he recounts with pride in one of his verses:"I'm Patron to the Burgher folks,
I'm Cornal to the Farmer's Box
And Bailie to guid hearty cocks,
That are a' grand —
Has heaps o' houses built on rocks,
Wi' lime and sand."

He certainly sounds like a crazed deviant, but I can't for the life of me see how any of that proves that he was a dago who invented wickerism.

I don't think you were specefic enough though. When you added in 'these folk' I thought you meant the Christians. Sorry.

She did mean the Christians. Are you sure you're literate?

A lot of laughing faces and then a sign to say you're being sarcastic? So you're not laughing? Is this your way of telling us that you're unhappy? Why do you hurt inside, friend? Jesus can solve all your problems. Calm down and tell us what's wrong.

If that is the case (which it is not) then if God is omnipotent, why is it that Satan seems to run the world?!

Because we're living through the Last Days before Jesus returns to smite the wicked.

Why would I want to become a christian?

So you get to spend all eternity in Heaven with us and Jesus. I thought we'd already been over this one?

If all christians are like this, who the hell would want to be one? I remember seeing a quote in a signature that said. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." I don't know where exactly in the bible it says that, but if you "christians" would do the research behind what you are reading, you would know it was changed to that from "Thou shalt not suffer a prisoner to live".

Citation needed.

If you would do the research that us "heathens" have done, you would realize you are all racist, angry, hypocrites.

Citation needed. AND WE ARE POSITIVELY NOT ANGRY AND NOT GAY!

This is a "godly" forum and yet, all I see is sin.

There certainly are lots of sinners around here. Maybe we should clean the place up a little by getting rid of you.

[Satanic Lies]

Re: About Wicca.

Yes, actually I did mean poisoners, thanks for the correction. Other than that, I've said before. The bible was written by man and man is a liar. You say they were inspired by the holy spirit, wouldn't this mean they consorted with a spirit/familiar/whatever you'd like to call it. Couldn't they have been high on opium? Couldn't they have been insane? You have to ask these questions. For all you know, they could have been talking to aliens.

Yes, I do work with a familiar, a wolf spirit. It is a protector that was created and given to me by God. All of us have these power animals, whether you think so or not. God gave us all these abilities, these gifts; so why not use them? I work with my spirit to heal and protect, not only myself, but others.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: About Wicca.

If all christians are like this, who the hell would want to be one? I remember seeing a quote in a signature that said. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." I don't know where exactly in the bible it says that, but if you "christians" would do the research behind what you are reading, you would know it was changed to that from "Thou shalt not suffer a prisoner to live".

So you are saying we should arrest witches, and once they are prisoners, execute them, along with all other prisoners?

I think we can work with that.

Have you read any OTHER parts of the Bible?

Leviticus 19:31

Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.


Leviticus 20:27

A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.


Deuteronomy 18: 10-12


10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.


Revelation 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Sorry, Charlie. God's Word is pretty darned clear; it's not "prisoners" that are to be executed (and you meant "poisoners"), though I think that's a good idea. Witches, sorcerers, those who consult familiar spirits, etc. are ALL to be put to death, and ALL are condemned to eternal torture in the fiery pits of Hell.

If you would do the research that us "heathens" have done, you would realize you are all racist, angry, hypocrites.

And as I have said before, "He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone." You have cast the first stone and you are sure as hell not without sin. This is a "godly" forum and yet, all I see is sin.

As Brother Temperance has already commented:

One more thing. You attack anyone who is unsaved. You say you follow the bible. Hmmmm, ever hear of this one? "He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone." I'm pretty sure non of you "christians" here are without sin...so you should crawl into your hole and ask for forgiveness from the God you pretend to worship.

You ever heard of this one?

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

We asked for forgiveness, God forgave us and we bathed in His Son's blood, and now we are washed free of all sin. Hallelujah!

[Satanic Lies]

Re: About Wicca.

If all christians are like this, who the hell would want to be one? I remember seeing a quote in a signature that said. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." I don't know where exactly in the bible it says that, but if you "christians" would do the research behind what you are reading, you would know it was changed to that from "Thou shalt not suffer a prisoner to live". If you would do the research that us "heathens" have done, you would realize you are all racist, angry, hypocrites.

And as I have said before, "He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone." You have cast the first stone and you are sure as hell not without sin. This is a "godly" forum and yet, all I see is sin.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: About Wicca.

I don't think you were specefic enough though. When you added in 'these folk' I thought you meant the Christians. Sorry.

Is english your first language? If so, I don't see how you could have missed what I meant by 'these folk' when in a forum belonging to a specific group. If it isn't your first language, that makes more sense.

By the way, if you want to join 'Team Jesus' then join the proper MODERN Christian religion instead of this insipid babbling cult.

Oh good grief.
Why would I want to become a christian? I'm perfectly happy where I am, I was just agreeing with Rodimer about a certain few examples of...er...imbecilities... here at Landover.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: About Wicca.

'YOU EVER HEARD OF TYPING ERRORS, IDIOT!!?? You say that when you become a "True Christian" you can just sit back, relax and expect to have a one-way ticket to your after-life.....FOOOOOLS!!!!!!! Faith without duty is worthless! At least in the modern Christian beliefs, you have to work your way to get to heaven. Any old mormon can just join LandoverBaptist and commt ruthless acts of crimes all over the world and yet still expect to go to heaven. Besides you have no evidence apart from your bible that other religions and cults and aethiests concioussly or subconcioussly follow your devil. If that is the case (which it is not) then if God is omnipotent, why is it that Satan seems to run the world?!

You still don't get it.

Once you truly choose to walk with Christ -- that is, once you are Saved©, you are UNABLE TO SIN.

Any sin is a one-way ticket to Hell, and simply proves that you were never Saved© in the first place.

Truly, you are proof that all Wiccans are imbeciles.

[Tantheus]

Re: About Wicca.

'YOU EVER HEARD OF TYPING ERRORS, IDIOT!!?? You say that when you become a "True Christian" you can just sit back, relax and expect to have a one-way ticket to your after-life.....FOOOOOLS!!!!!!! Faith without duty is worthless! At least in the modern Christian beliefs, you have to work your way to get to heaven. Any old moron can just join LandoverBaptist and commt ruthless acts of crimes all over the world and yet still expect to go to heaven. Besides you have no evidence apart from your bible that other religions and cults and aethiests concioussly or subconcioussly follow your devil. If that is the case (which it is not) then if God is omnipotent, why is it that Satan seems to run the world?!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: About Wicca.

Wait, correction on that: I thought you meant 'Wicca'.

Good grief, you can't even figure out what YOU mean!!

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: About Wicca.

I don't think you were specefic enough though. When you added in 'these folk' I thought you meant the Christians. Sorry. By the way, if you want to join 'Team Jesus' then join the proper MODERN Christian religion instead of this insipid babbling cult.

Why would we want to be "modern christians"? Do you think we are looking for a one way ticket to hell?

[Tantheus]

Re: About Wicca.

Wait, correction on that: I thought you meant 'Wicca'.

[Tantheus]

Re: About Wicca.

I don't think you were specefic enough though. When you added in 'these folk' I thought you meant the Christians. Sorry. By the way, if you want to join 'Team Jesus' then join the proper MODERN Christian religion instead of this insipid babbling cult.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: About Wicca.

See, Miss Hellspank?

Proof that Wiccans are imbeciles, right there.

He can't even comprehend what you're saying, or that you're trying to HELP his pathetic argument with your wild tales of Christians and pre-Christian Jews appropriating things from paganism. Heck, I already acknowledged that the Catholic Cult just took pagan belief and deities and flavored it with a little Jesus, and he argued about that, too!

Now, Miss Hellspank, why not stop siding with pathetic morons like Tarantella here? Join the Winning Team . . . Team JESUS!

As much as I hate to say it, I think you may be right.....
I still don't believe in jeebuz though.

FOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!! First you need to understand what Wicca is and what Paganism is; Wicca is just an Anglo-Saxon tradition of Paganism. A person can be Wicca and still be Pagan (in fact poeple who follow the Wiccan tradition are Pagans anyway). Celtic drudism is a tradition of Paganism with EXTREMLEY similair principles, except they've just excluded the sacrifices, and since all traditions are parts Paganism, we have taken nothing from the traditional Celtic form of Paganism. It was the Christians that hi-jacked the Pagan holy days; they turned Halloween (the day of the opening of the portal to the land of Pagan nature spirits who are NOT [size=2]demons) and they made it Satans birthday whihc is why children dress as monsters on the day. They also hi-jacked the winter solciste (21st of December. The day celebrating the appearance of the new moon) and turned it into Christians. Here's a refference for it: [demonic link deleted]
We also do not have a holy book, just a centre rule which tells us to do as we wish as long as we harm no one. Paganism was around before Judaism so it's impossible that we could steal it (and if you demand evidence so much then I'd like to see a some evidence for us stealing things from Jewish text!) So I'll say that your comment definetley ISN'T true.

I'm sorry, but how dumb are you? Like Rodimer said, I was trying to help you by giving you a few actual facts to use, such as the fact that CHRISTIANS stole things from PAGANISM. Didn't you even read what I wrote??
In case you didn't read my signature, I AM pagan, you twit.

But people like yourself make me more than a little embarrassed when you say things like you just said.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: About Wicca.

We also do not have a holy book, just a centre rule which tells us to do as we wish as long as we harm no one.

Then why are you trying to explain the inexplicable (Wicker) as if it were a real religion? Surely you see the harm you are doing? A failure to follow The Word of God will result in the Eternal Torment of your very soul and that of anyone who listens to you. The harm is incalculable and you're doing it!

And all Wickers do this!

Who else does it? Why! The Devil, that father of lies!

If you aren't against The Devil you are for him, thus all Wickers are evil and satanists.

Now stop wasting your time with made up stories and start reading The Bible KJV1611.

PS please attack Miss Van Hellsthing again, she deserves it. There's nothing like a little internecine strife amongst non-believers to warm the heart of a Christian.

[GAY_Tool]

Re: About Wicca.

Yet more bollocks and encouragement to believe a fairytale story that never happened.

Why would she want to believe your story? She could just make her own up she is a 'heathen' after all.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: About Wicca.

See, Miss Hellspank?

Proof that Wiccans are imbeciles, right there.

He can't even comprehend what you're saying, or that you're trying to HELP his pathetic argument with your wild tales of Christians and pre-Christian Jews appropriating things from paganism. Heck, I already acknowledged that the Catholic Cult just took pagan belief and deities and flavored it with a little Jesus, and he argued about that, too!

Now, Miss Hellspank, why not stop siding with pathetic morons like Tarantella here? Join the Winning Team . . . Team JESUS!