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  • #46
    Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

    Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
    George Soros is a giant octopus from northern Greenland (kinda of obscured, hard to tell exactly), and ?
    It's an elegant visual metaphor and you're being willfully vexatious.
    I was sinking deep in sin far from the peaceful shore,
    Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
    But the Master of the Sea heard my despairing cry,
    From the waters lifted me, now safe am I!

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    • #47
      Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

      Originally posted by handmaiden View Post
      I checked out that link and was, frankly, appalled. The southern parts of Mexico are utterly awash with heresy and superstition, some bits may or may not be independent or having revolutions or just straight-out basket cases – due to the very superstitions they cling to, even when offered freedom. A little map of the area helps put the broader picture in context. Chiapas, where the fiasco occurred, is shown in red.


      Guatemalan President Alejandro Giammattei wrote on Twitter: “I deeply regret the tragedy in Chiapas state, and I express my solidarity for the victims’ families, to whom we will offer all the necessary consular assistance, including repatriation.”

      At the Vatican, Pope Francis, who visited Chiapas in 2015 and has made the plight of migrants a hallmark of his papacy, sent a telegram of condolences Friday to the archbishop of Tuxtla Gutierrez. In the note, he offered prayers for the victims, their families and for the injured.
      Vatican is not on the map. Guatemala and Honduras also get a mention: they're the two larger subdivisions RIGHT of Chiapas. Apparently the survivors will receive assistance to return home, experiencing the Honcho's solidarity first hand upon arrival. Under so magnanimous a regime can it be surprising there's so many of them? Or could there be another reason.

      In the second quoted paragraph our vista broadens. Pope Frank is praying for them. I'm not sure what effect he thinks he has on the deceased [none -ed.] or more importantly what effect his minions think his prayers have on them. Of course it may be that Frank was unaware of their circumstances prior to this tragedy and they were operating without his beneficence. But according to the piece, since 2015 he's made the plight of migrants a hallmark of his tenure. That suggests not only was their plight known —— but that prayer beams of specific focus were aimed in their direction for years. That's what plight of migrants being a hallmark of his tenure means.

      Vatican is rather small compared to Mexico – and its southern territories are vast. It considers itself far above kings and presidents and its hold upon souls is unflinching. Clearly the focus of ethereal communication is reversed. Perhaps the flow of lucre is reversed too? That would explain much.

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      • #48
        Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

        I don't know if Mexicans are paying for it, but the governor of Arizona has taken the initiative to finish the wall using shipping containers.



        Compared to Trump's planned wall, which cost around $27m per mile, this novel solution only costs... (based on 5280 ft/mile and $1500 for 20ft container times 2 for the height)... um, $800k per mile excluding labor, equipment, land purchases and assuming this will be permanent with no maintenance ever. That's a substantial saving - you're welcome Mexico.
        If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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        • #49
          Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

          Originally posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole View Post
          22 feet tall when stacked, welded together and topped with four feet of razor wire.
          Have we stopped doing laser research? I don't think so. A high power industrial unit, such as may be used to generate electricity, could be installed here: one at each end (I don't know what the range is but don't they fire lasers at the moon?) anyway send & receive zZzZap!

          Because how come the more arrive (and nobody wants to go there apart from a few hippies or other assorted freaks) the more the political systems draw closer together? Coincidence? When the Pilgrim Fathers arrived, did they set up catholicism?

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          • #50
            Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

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            I was sinking deep in sin far from the peaceful shore,
            Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
            But the Master of the Sea heard my despairing cry,
            From the waters lifted me, now safe am I!

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            • #51
              Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

              Why won't they learn? It's a complete mystery.
              If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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              • #52
                Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

                I promoted my idea for paying for the wall when Trump was President. For some reason the people around him did not tell him about it. I know he would go for it.

                We need to calculate the cost and divide it up among Mexican restaurants in the U.S. Each one would be taxed accordingly. That way Mexico would pay.

                When Trump takes back the Presidency I'll try again.
                Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                • #53
                  Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

                  Originally posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole View Post
                  Oh! I see thay've also started on the moat.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

                    The shipping containers could also serve as detention cells. Win win.

                    Phil
                    58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; 59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bringk upon thee, until thou be destroyed.


                    Deuteronomy 28: 58- 61

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                    • #55
                      Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

                      Originally posted by Phil Ander View Post
                      The shipping containers could also serve as detention cells. Win win.
                      Phil
                      It seems to me Mexicans would see these containers as better than their current house and move in. They are saying, "Gracios Haysus."
                      Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Mexico has to start paying for the Wall

                        From what I understand they'd already feel at home, never having been farther south than Houston myself, from Dennis Luke's landscaping suggestion. Perhaps those impressions are inaccurate, though. What I always try to remember is how God instructed His migrants to conduct themselves. One of the most important commandments He gave related to foreigners, that they should be treated fairly when encountered. God's standards, being perfect, are not going to be the same as human standards dreamed up over several generations in a society and enabling it to survive, or alternatively sending it extinct if the standards were bad enough.

                        Sometimes those human standards get in the way, making things seem more complex than they are. Foreigners were welcome to join in the new society and learn about the new culture; that often meant getting rid of specific cultural items that offended God. It's important to me to understand what those items are (and still are) so that I can explain God's Love to a migrant if I should meet one. So far, I have not.

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