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  • H. Montague Worthington
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    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

    The fact that she died indicates either A) The father didn't pray hard enough or 2) The presence of sin. Either way, it is the father's fault.

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  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

    Originally posted by salmonking51 View Post
    Yes I am more eduacated than him because he DOESN'T EXIST. Have you ever seen God? No. have you ever heard God? Again, no. The only proof that he exist is in the Bible, and the Bible alone. That is your piece of evidence that God exists. A book.
    That's not entirely true, at least in my case. I talk to God and he talks back to me. When I was a struggling minister just out of Bible college, I asked God to lead the way for me. I told Him I would serve him however best He desires. Well, in the early 1970's a couple friends of mine Paul & Jan Crouch and Jim and Tammy Fae Bakker founded Trinity Broadcast Network. I was a silent partner in the deal, but the foundation of this Christian network brought the Word of God(c) to millions of people around the world!

    God has decided to reward my evangelical efforts with vast riches. Expansive mansions, Rolls-Royces, vacations around the world, etc. I know I would not have been rewarded in such a great degree if I was an atheist like you. God has shown me in my own personal life that He is there and answers my prayers.

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  • salmonking51
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    Just because Christianity is the most popular "religon" ( I use this word loosely) doesn't mean it is correct. Nobody knows what is right 100%.

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Originally posted by salmonking51 View Post
    Yes I am more eduacated than him because he DOESN'T EXIST. Have you ever seen God? No. have you ever heard God? Again, no. The only proof that he exist is in the Bible, and the Bible alone. That is your piece of evidence that God exists. A book.
    Let's take a vote!

    First, ask 1.9 billion Christians if God exists. Then ask Muslims and Jews.

    Then ask the handful of atheists.



    Want proof? Causality. Something made the universe; if not God, what?

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  • salmonking51
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    Yes I am more eduacated than him because he DOESN'T EXIST. Have you ever seen God? No. have you ever heard God? Again, no. The only proof that he exist is in the Bible, and the Bible alone. That is your piece of evidence that God exists. A book.

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

    Originally posted by salmonking51 View Post
    Ha ha, this is one of the funniest fourms I've been to. You actually listen to a BOOK! The Bible is nothing but a story devised by man, and it is no different from other pieces of fiction.
    And what, pray tell, do YOU listen to?

    Your own imagination, because you are so much more educated than God?

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  • salmonking51
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    Ha ha, this is one of the funniest fourms I've been to. You actually listen to a BOOK! The Bible is nothing but a story devised by man, and it is no different from other pieces of fiction.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

    Originally posted by Nilon View Post
    I've been listening, but it's not going to happen. I'm not trying to be rude of course, but yours views would be considered a bit radical. A lot of them support murder and such, which most people would rather listen the commandment that says not to kill than break it because of another one which says to kill everyone of a different faith. That or because of things such a homosexuality, which is now known to be different than thought of previously in the Bible times. Times have changed, and to support the Bible being put into the place of the Constitution would end up sending us back instead of forward.
    Luckily, you are not the one in charge of "what's going to happen." God is.

    By the way, there are millions of us.

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  • Nilon
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    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    You aren't paying attention, are you.


    Landover Baptist Church has been lobbying and praying for years to get the U.S. constitution scrapped and the Holy Bible put in it's place as the law of the land. God's laws are best! THAT's freedom!
    I've been listening, but it's not going to happen. I'm not trying to be rude of course, but yours views would be considered a bit radical. A lot of them support murder and such, which most people would rather listen the commandment that says not to kill than break it because of another one which says to kill everyone of a different faith. That or because of things such a homosexuality, which is now known to be different than thought of previously in the Bible times. Times have changed, and to support the Bible being put into the place of the Constitution would end up sending us back instead of forward.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Nilon View Post
    That tends to leave you in a tight situation with many different sets of laws contradicting themselves, which tends to limit freedom just a bit.
    You aren't paying attention, are you.


    Landover Baptist Church has been lobbying and praying for years to get the U.S. constitution scrapped and the Holy Bible put in it's place as the law of the land. God's laws are best! THAT's freedom!

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  • Nilon
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    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    We obey every commandment and law in the Bible, including the one that says we have to obey secular law.

    Otherwise, we'd hav slaves and several wives.
    That tends to leave you in a tight situation with many different sets of laws contradicting themselves, which tends to limit freedom just a bit.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Nilon View Post
    Which do you obey, the commandments or the other laws he has? The command to not kill anyone, or the ones that say to kill homosexuals, women not virgins of birth, or others such as that?

    My beliefs allow me to be free in the sense of what I feel, yet I know I'm still limited by laws set up by the government sense.
    We obey every commandment and law in the Bible, including the one that says we have to obey secular law.

    Otherwise, we'd hav slaves and several wives.

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  • Nilon
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    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    The only true freedom, is the freedom to obey God's commandments. Without God, no one is free.
    Which do you obey, the commandments or the other laws he has? The command to not kill anyone, or the ones that say to kill homosexuals, women not virgins of birth, or others such as that?

    My beliefs allow me to be free in the sense of what I feel, yet I know I'm still limited by laws set up by the government sense.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Nilon View Post
    Also, I had not meant to go off topic as to deal with some of my personal beliefs. They're complicated to explain, so I'm doing my best to avoid them. I would just like to return to the part that limiting certain freedoms is a good idea, since without limits such freedoms could kill a majority of freedoms.
    The only true freedom, is the freedom to obey God's commandments. Without God, no one is free.

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  • Nilon
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    Also, I had not meant to go off topic as to deal with some of my personal beliefs. They're complicated to explain, so I'm doing my best to avoid them. I would just like to return to the part that limiting certain freedoms is a good idea, since without limits such freedoms could kill a majority of freedoms.

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