Re: Animals have no rights!
Alright you people animals do have rights. Imagine if you can being a dog and being beaten for reasons beyond your understanding and control. I hope you'd be outraged. Would you not want to be treated fairly. The only sad part about animal rights is that they are a necessity.
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We aren't just killing and torturing them because we feel like it. Then we would be transgressing Proverbs 12:10. We are killing them and making them suffer for good reasons, like food and entertainment. I already have quoted the relevant Scripture to support this.Originally posted by rocknroll View PostThis is exactly what I spoke about in the "orgasms" thread. Just because you have dominion over another beast, doesn't mean you should kill animals or torture them.
What do oyu mean by "deeper?" How can you possibly go deeper than reading the entire Bible and doing what it says?Your way of thinking is shallow, you need to peel open the banana to actually know what it is. Similarly, you need to understand what the Bible is saying by going deeper.
No. Because, unlike animals, they are humans, and ought to be treated differently.Just because, you have dominion over your baby boy or girl, or your subordinate at work, doesn't mean you are going to kill them or dominate them.
Brother Living_Water already provided Scripture to support the point that we are allowed to hunt animals, and eat them. so, yes, Brother Harold was allowed to kill that lion.Originally posted by loveis.. View Postif we kill an animal we are suppose to use it to its full extent not show it as a trophy! When you stepped on the lions territory you asked for it! the lion is protecting what is his just like you would... going on to peoples property without consent gets you shot... walking onto a lions territory gets you attacked..
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Re: Animals have no rights!
Originally posted by rocknroll View PostThis is exactly what I spoke about in the "orgasms" thread. Just because you have dominion over another beast, doesn't mean you should kill animals or torture them. Your way of thinking is shallow, you need to peel open the banana to actually know what it is. Similarly, you need to understand what the Bible is saying by going deeper.
Just because, you have dominion over your baby boy or girl, or your subordinate at work, doesn't mean you are going to kill them or dominate them.Sadly these posts prove that the conspiracy theory about the systematic brainwashing of our children is more than just a theory.Originally posted by loveis.. View Postif we kill an animal we are suppose to use it to its full extent not show it as a trophy! When you stepped on the lions territory you asked for it! the lion is protecting what is his just like you would... going on to peoples property without consent gets you shot... walking onto a lions territory gets you attacked..
The authors of these above posts, call it "animal torture" and "animal territory"....this is ridiculous! There is no such thing as "animal torture" or "animal territory". How is it possible to torture a property?! "Oh, I think I'll torture my car today...." Stupid right?!
And "animal territory"....
I won't even comment on that one...ridiculous.
It's simple: "These beasts are dilivered into our hands, so we are allowed to do with them as we see fit". In other words: They are our property!
But I am afraid that these two are not capable to understand this; these two have clearly been subjected to the brainwash their whole life, and are therefore unable to think clearly. They are Animal rights activists and Eco-terrorists...and the worst thing is that they don't even know it themselfs.
Jesus words come to my mind: "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do." Luke 23:34
I will now pray that the Lord will give me the strenght, wit and patience to help these two find the right path.
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if we kill an animal we are suppose to use it to its full extent not show it as a trophy! When you stepped on the lions territory you asked for it! the lion is protecting what is his just like you would... going on to peoples property without consent gets you shot... walking onto a lions territory gets you attacked..Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View PostNonsense. God gave us animals to kill as we see fit. It's in the very first chapter of the Bible.
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
The last time Pastor Zeke and I went on safari, this wild cat charged us. What would you have us do? Let this beast rip us to shreds?
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Brother Harold Porter I can clearly see that God was with you and Pastor Zeke on the safari. What other thing would explain the magnificent bounty? Well, nothing would!
Even the God's words tell you to hunt your own food:
Proverbs 12:27:
The slothful man roasteth not that which he took in hunting: but the substance of a diligent man is precious.
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This is exactly what I spoke about in the "orgasms" thread. Just because you have dominion over another beast, doesn't mean you should kill animals or torture them. Your way of thinking is shallow, you need to peel open the banana to actually know what it is. Similarly, you need to understand what the Bible is saying by going deeper.Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View PostNonsense. God gave us animals to kill as we see fit. It's in the very first chapter of the Bible.
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
The last time Pastor Zeke and I went on safari, this wild cat charged us. What would you have us do? Let this beast rip us to shreds?
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Just because, you have dominion over your baby boy or girl, or your subordinate at work, doesn't mean you are going to kill them or dominate them.
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No, I think the Witness of Jehov'a's are not the kind of people for do such thing as these animals's rights. I was a Jehová girl until no so very long time ago and is no a organizacion that is interesting for this although is true that what you say of the brains' washings because is a sect and a dangerous one too because is all total obedience and obeying and loyalness and some things like this but definite sure no for animal hippy protectors.Originally posted by Tyrfing View PostThe idea that animals have rights is outrageous - and even blasphemous. Words like "animal rights", "animal torture", "animal abuse" etc. are ridiculous...they do not make any sense.
As the True Disciple so elegantly put it: "These beasts are delivered into our hands, so we are allowed to do with them as we see fit".
Not long ago I thought that these Animal rights activists and Eco-terrorists was a product of the "modern times" we live in, but now I suspect that there is something more sinister behind all this. I truely believe that there is a big secret organization who is brainwashing our children to believe that all animals are compassionate creatures and that they have feelings equal to humans. This brainwashing has been going on for many decades, and now we begin to see the result of this brainwashing.
I pretty sure that this secret organization founded the Walt Disney Company in the mid-1920 s - or at least this secret organization was part of the creation of this company.
And since the mid-1920, our children have been "fed" with these animated speaking cows, dancing chickens, singing pigs etc. This so-called family-oriented entertainment is designed so cunningly that our children are led to believe that all animals are intelligent creatures who are capable to love and have feelings just like we humans: In some cases these animal animations are even more intelligent than the human animations.
Generation after generation has been subjected to this systematic brainwashing.
This secret organization has of course become larger and financially stronger since the mid-1920, and now it has countless of companies that make these "brainwashing series" to corrupt our children: And now the "brainwashed children" sit at their computer and create these intelligent animal animations they have learned to love and admire. These "brainwashed children" have probable never seen a live animal, and thus have no idea how stupid animals really are.
This means that the boost in animal rights activism we see nowadays, is a product of this systematic brainwashing that has been going on for decades. In reality, the avarage Animal rights activist, who thinks that the wrapped-in-plastic-ham-sandwich he bought in the store is something that grows on trees, has become just as stupid as the animals.
The question is: Who is behind this secret organization?! What could they possible gain by doing this?!
I must admit that I honestly don't know who is doing this: For a brief moment I thought that it might be the Jehuvah Witless and their crazy beliefs on utopia on earth where the 144000 people live in peace and harmony with all animals. But a conspiracy of this magnitude requires some brain capacity and rational thinking, and I seriously doubt that there are people with such properties within the Jehuvah Witless organization.
There is a lot of sects there and some is more dangerouses that others.
Stay away of them because is no safe sects. Really. Unsafe sects will kill you.

YIC, Mari.
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The idea that animals have rights is outrageous - and even blasphemous. Words like "animal rights", "animal torture", "animal abuse" etc. are ridiculous...they do not make any sense.
As the True Disciple so elegantly put it: "These beasts are delivered into our hands, so we are allowed to do with them as we see fit".
Not long ago I thought that these Animal rights activists and Eco-terrorists was a product of the "modern times" we live in, but now I suspect that there is something more sinister behind all this. I truely believe that there is a big secret organization who is brainwashing our children to believe that all animals are compassionate creatures and that they have feelings equal to humans. This brainwashing has been going on for many decades, and now we begin to see the result of this brainwashing.
I pretty sure that this secret organization founded the Walt Disney Company in the mid-1920 s - or at least this secret organization was part of the creation of this company.
And since the mid-1920, our children have been "fed" with these animated speaking cows, dancing chickens, singing pigs etc. This so-called family-oriented entertainment is designed so cunningly that our children are led to believe that all animals are intelligent creatures who are capable to love and have feelings just like we humans: In some cases these animal animations are even more intelligent than the human animations.
Generation after generation has been subjected to this systematic brainwashing.
This secret organization has of course become larger and financially stronger since the mid-1920, and now it has countless of companies that make these "brainwashing series" to corrupt our children: And now the "brainwashed children" sit at their computer and create these intelligent animal animations they have learned to love and admire. These "brainwashed children" have probable never seen a live animal, and thus have no idea how stupid animals really are.
This means that the boost in animal rights activism we see nowadays, is a product of this systematic brainwashing that has been going on for decades. In reality, the avarage Animal rights activist, who thinks that the wrapped-in-plastic-ham-sandwich he bought in the store is something that grows on trees, has become just as stupid as the animals.
The question is: Who is behind this secret organization?! What could they possible gain by doing this?!
I must admit that I honestly don't know who is doing this: For a brief moment I thought that it might be the Jehuvah Witless and their crazy beliefs on utopia on earth where the 144000 people live in peace and harmony with all animals. But a conspiracy of this magnitude requires some brain capacity and rational thinking, and I seriously doubt that there are people with such properties within the Jehuvah Witless organization.
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Nonsense. God gave us animals to kill as we see fit. It's in the very first chapter of the Bible.Originally posted by rocknroll View PostAnimals do have rights, or at least should have rights. Maria, with her commendable knowledge of the English language, explained why it's okay to torture bulls. But remember that they too can feel pain, and you are taking the responsibililty when you torture an animal for your own fun, or when you encourage someone else.
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
The last time Pastor Zeke and I went on safari, this wild cat charged us. What would you have us do? Let this beast rip us to shreds?
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Animals do have rights, or at least should have rights. Maria, with her commendable knowledge of the English language, explained why it's okay to torture bulls. But remember that they too can feel pain, and you are taking the responsibililty when you torture an animal for your own fun, or when you encourage someone else.
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Frankly, Brothers and Sisters, I was somewhat taken aback at seeing the title of this thread. Of course animals have no rights, and I'm shocked the question even arose.
I have it on good authority that many of the Brothers here would never turn down the opportunity at enjoying a nibble of a "foot long."
And I've never heard of a Sister walking away from the aroma of a well-aged fish.
So please, True Christians™, continue your discussion while I share another "Tube Steak" in the privacy of my chambers with an underpaid Public Defender.
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Besides the taste and the feeling of well being with a meat filled meal, a big roast sitting in the middle of the table will get people to bow their heads in prayer faster than a gay boy will drop his trousers at a cast party of ''Cats''.
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Re: Animals have no rights!
God wants us to eat meat, vegetarians are deliberately going against the will of our Lord:
Genesis 9:3-4
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Deuteronomy 12:20
When the LORD thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, I will eat flesh, because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.
It's pretty obvious here that God not only wants us to eat meat, he expects us to! Not only that, but he wants us to eat as much meat as we want! The only right an animal has is to provide us with nourishment. Vegetarianism and animal rights activism are just more pathways to Hell. It's no coincidence that most of these PETA animals lovers are also atheists.
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