[noosab]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

Whats wrong with medicin to ease pain? Where does it say that god disagrees with medicine? So if your child is sick with a fever would you choose not to make them better with medicine?

[Alexandria Puckett]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

Ok, lets see... law says killing is illegal, but Bible says you must kill disobedient children, adulterous women and to the ones who doesn't believe in God, at the same time you say Bible tell them to obey the law, even when is saying they must do something clearly illegal, is that logical for you?

If you kill in self defense, it is not murder. It's as simple as that! You're defending yourself from sin. Easy enough for your trash brain to comprehend.

[Didymus Much]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

Ok, lets see... law says killing is illegal, but Bible says you must kill disobedient children, adulterous women and to the ones who doesn't believe in God, at the same time you say Bible tell them to obey the law, even when is saying they must do something clearly illegal, is that logical for you?

They won't do those things until they are legal, so yes, it is logical, even if you refuse to understand it.

And for what must be the millionth time it's been mentioned on this forum, killing =/= murder. I don't know the specific law to cite in Chile, but look it up yourself, there will be some provision for justifiable homicide (usually involves defense of yourself or others), as well as allowances for accidents or other unintentional acts (in the US and Canada, it's called manslaughter) and cases involving diminished responsibility (what used to be called the "insanity" defense). Knowing the law is the best way to protect yourself.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

Ok, lets see... law says killing is illegal, but Bible says you must kill disobedient children, adulterous women and to the ones who doesn't believe in God, at the same time you say Bible tell them to obey the law, even when is saying they must do something clearly illegal, is that logical for you?

So we banish instead of kill, what's your problem?

And quit making new accounts.

[BillieJean]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

And you'll never find a True Christian™ doing something illegal, because the Bible tells them to obey the law.

Ok, lets see... law says killing is illegal, but Bible says you must kill disobedient children, adulterous women and to the ones who doesn't believe in God, at the same time you say Bible tell them to obey the law, even when is saying they must do something clearly illegal, is that logical for you?

[Didymus Much]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

You MUST follow your coscience, but if you use it to do something wrong then I must correct you. You have the right to have a free will, but also the obligation to make yourself responsable if you decide to do something bad with it...

And how would they know something is bad? They asked their consciences, and their consciences said, "Yup, killing/raping that person is perfectly OK, go for it".

...It depends on what the book says, if you use the Bible or any other reason to do something wrong or illegal then isn't ok and you must pay for it, do you understand?

Yes, I understand that you wish to enforce your own morality (that you haven't bothered to justify at all, you just know when something is wrong because your conscience tells you, and everyone else's consciences are wrong if they don't match yours perfectly) on everyone else, yet you get all kinds of upset when these people try to do the same thing.

You're a hypocrite.

And you'll never find a True Christian(tm) doing something illegal, because the Bible tells them to obey the law.

[BillieJean]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

So you follow your conscience, and you're right, but when they follow their consciences, they're wrong, but it's not like you're trying to enforce your morality on anyone.

You MUST follow your coscience, but if you use it to do something wrong then I must correct you. You have the right to have a free will, but also the obligation to make yourself responsable if you decide to do something bad with it

So following a book is wrong, and not following a book is wrong.

It depends on what the book says, if you use the Bible or any other reason to do something wrong or illegal then isn't ok and you must pay for it, do you understand?

[Didymus Much]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

You're twisting my words and I'll not let you do that, ok?...

So you follow your conscience, and you're right, but when they follow their consciences, they're wrong, but it's not like you're trying to enforce your morality on anyone.

...But anyway, Bible condone everything, from discrimination to murder, so following a book or not they're doing something wrong

So following a book is wrong, and not following a book is wrong.

What are you smoking, and can I buy some?

[BillieJean]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

So you aren't allowed to judge pedophiles, mafiosi, murderers, rapists, etc., because they're following their own consciences and not a book. Yeah, you're real smart.

You're twisting my words and I'll not let you do that, ok? But anyway, Bible condone everything, from discrimination to murder, so following a book or not they're doing something wrong

[Didymus Much]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

I don't care about what you think, I'll follow my conscience because I must difference from my own what's right and what's wrong instead of depend on a book to know it, do you understand? I must be smart, not a fool like you

So you aren't allowed to judge pedophiles, mafiosi, murderers, rapists, etc., because they're following their own consciences and not a book. Yeah, you're real smart.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

I don't care about what you think, I'll follow my conscience because I must difference from my own what's right and what's wrong instead of depend on a book to know it, do you understand? I must be smart, not a fool like you

Look, it's fine by me that you don't trust Jesus enough to trust the Holy Bible to to answer your moral and ethical questions. You'll burn in Hell with most of God's creation while True Christians™ like myself kneel before the Throne of the King of Kings and praise His Name for All Eternity. Really, it doesn't bother me at all, for the LORD will kindly wipe my memory of any unpleasant things for me when those I do love burn in Hell for all eternity (Revelation 21:4).



But don't pretend you believe in God when you've simply used His Holy Name to label your own human imagination. Don't use that identification about yourself when there is nothing in your mind or body that honors Who He really is.

[Didymus Much]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

I don't have to give you any explanations, if I believe in God in the way I do I have my reasons, respect that and leave me alone...

Yet you won't do anyone else the same courtesy.

[BillieJean]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

This is not God, dear, this is your own conscience. Following your own conscience will not Save you from Hell.

I don't care about what you think, I'll follow my conscience because I must difference from my own what's right and what's wrong instead of depend on a book to know it, do you understand? I must be smart, not a fool like you

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

I don't have to give you any explanations, if I believe in God in the way I do I have my reasons, respect that and leave me alone

You seem frustrated. You are trying to reconcile what you think you know about Jesus with what you learn the Bible says about Him, and yet you take your anger out on us. If you cannot identify from where you have learned about God, then consider you haven't learned about Him at all, you've simply imagined a god that just so happens to conform perfectly with everything you personally hold to be morally good and dear. This is not God, dear, this is your own conscience. Following your own conscience will not Save you from Hell.

And don't call me dear, I'm tired of your fake kindness

There is nothing "fake" about my kindness. It is every bit as sincere as it sounds.

[BillieJean]

Re: BAN anaesthetics during childbirth: God wants women to suffer!

Dear, can you please tell us where you learn about God if not from the Holy Bible? What is your source of knowledge about Who He is, and What He is like?

I don't have to give you any explanations, if I believe in God in the way I do I have my reasons, respect that and leave me alone

And don't call me dear, I'm tired of your fake kindness