[Cranky Old Man]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

You're operating under the false assumption that an alias represents a person's beliefs. In the huge world that exists beyond this little forum, people regularly have usernames which aren't related to their religious views

There are 6,690,000,000 people on this planet. None of them is interested in what you have to say. Please leave.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

I was thinking of changing my name to God's Verbatim 100% Biblical Follower.

Would that fit, Mrs. Whitford?

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

What about sections of the bible that contradict? For example, whether Joseph was the son of Jacob (Matthew 1:16) or Heli (Luke 3:23)...Are you suggesting Joseph had two fathers? There's no interpretation or comprehension necessary, it's very clearly stated.

Jesus was born in another country.

And overseas, many people have numerous names. A Russian name, for instance, can be 8 names long!

In many foreign countries, there are "familiar" names, pet names, diminutives, while sometimes people are referred to by their first name, sometimes by their last. Even here in America, "John Smith" may be called "John" at home and "Smith" at the lumber yard.

It's my belief that Jacob and Heli were the same person. His full name was probably Jacob Heli.

[Levi Jones]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

I'm not using an alias based on anything YouTubey. That's a big difference right there. If I decided to go with an alias instead of my name, "True Christian" or something like that would be exactly what I'd go with.

I was thinking of changing my name to God's Verbatim 100% Biblical Follower.

Would that fit, Mrs. Whitford?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

You're operating under the false assumption that an alias represents a person's beliefs. In the huge world that exists beyond this little forum, people regularly have usernames which aren't related to their religious views

So then you admit that you're a liar. Typical immoral atheist.

God hates liars.

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

[objectivist]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

I'm not using an alias based on anything YouTubey. That's a big difference right there. If I decided to go with an alias instead of my name, "True Christian" or something like that would be exactly what I'd go with.

You're operating under the false assumption that an alias represents a person's beliefs. In the huge world that exists beyond this little forum, people regularly have usernames which aren't related to their religious views

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

See, it's exactly this kind of ignorant bigotry that keeps you hating atheists. You're completely misinformed about how we live.

Just for the record - we don't pray to anyone. Least of all Ayn Rand she writes good books but I don't think that makes her a god.

Sister Mary Maria - you like YouTube, as a medium for spreading God's word. I like Ayn Rand, because she writes quite well. If I asked you whether you pray to YouTube, wouldn't you think that was totally ridiculous?

I'm not using an alias based on anything YouTubey. That's a big difference right there. If I decided to go with an alias instead of my name, "True Christian" or something like that would be exactly what I'd go with.

[objectivist]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

I haven't read this thread yet. Has "objectivist" starting insisting we pray to Ayn Rand already, or is that still to come?

See, it's exactly this kind of ignorant bigotry that keeps you hating atheists. You're completely misinformed about how we live.

Just for the record - we don't pray to anyone. Least of all Ayn Rand she writes good books but I don't think that makes her a god.

Sister Mary Maria - you like YouTube, as a medium for spreading God's word. I like Ayn Rand, because she writes quite well. If I asked you whether you pray to YouTube, wouldn't you think that was totally ridiculous?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

I haven't read this thread yet. Has "objectivist" starting insisting we pray to Ayn Rand already, or is that still to come?

[GOD=life]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

Are you suggesting Joseph had two fathers?

Are you suggesting that the good pastor would ever think that Joseph was raised in a homersexual family? The Bible is pretty clear about such a family setting...

[objectivist]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

There are no contradictions in the Holy Bible. Being unsaved, you have no hope of compehending it's full majesty and depth.

Look at Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23, Pastor. Are you suggesting Joseph had two fathers? There's no interpretation or comprehension necessary, it's very clearly stated.

Plus, God probably tossed one of His famous stumbling blocks before you.

Have you read Jeremiah 6? That verse is about rejecting the paths of old religions that are displeasing to God. I'm not sure how you've interpreted the context as being relevant to contradictions in the bible. Care to shed some light on that for me?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

What about sections of the bible that contradict? For example, whether Joseph was the son of Jacob (Matthew 1:16) or Heli (Luke 3:23) and the sins of the father issue (Isiah 14:21 vs Deuteronomy 24:16). I think sometimes the only way to determine the truth is to look at the things that have remained consistent across all the books of the bible and all the gospels; like, for instance, that God is merciful and loving. Jesus was not here to bring peace (I'm sure a lot of you know that verse) but he did bring a message of love and forgiveness.

There are no contradictions in the Holy Bible. Being unsaved, you have no hope of compehending it's full majesty and depth.

Plus, God probably tossed one of His famous stumbling blocks before you.

Jeremiah 6:21 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.

[objectivist]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

As I understand, the purpose of this forum is not to be kind, but to be direct.

Are kind and direct mutually exclusive? I'm pretty sure some of the posters here are malicious simply for the sake of feeding their ego.

Most Christians will pick and choose the parts in the Bible they like. You say that you read in the Bible that God is vengeful. Would you rather have an answer like "yes, indeed" or "nah man, that doesn't fit my own opinion, so I'll just read between the lines"?

You will see various threads here where Christians come in, saying "but God wants X" and "no no, but He wants you to think Y" even when there are Bible passages directly contradicting their claim. How can such people be taken seriously?

What about sections of the bible that contradict? For example, whether Joseph was the son of Jacob (Matthew 1:16) or Heli (Luke 3:23) and the sins of the father issue (Isiah 14:21 vs Deuteronomy 24:16). I think sometimes the only way to determine the truth is to look at the things that have remained consistent across all the books of the bible and all the gospels; like, for instance, that God is merciful and loving. Jesus was not here to bring peace (I'm sure a lot of you know that verse) but he did bring a message of love and forgiveness.

[GOD=life]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

True Christians should act kindly, and a lot of the time the members of this forum do.

As I understand, the purpose of this forum is not to be kind, but to be direct. The pastors can explain this in more detail, but you should look at the welcome guide in the news section for an introduction.

Most Christians will pick and choose the parts in the Bible they like. You say that you read in the Bible that God is vengeful. Would you rather have an answer like "yes, indeed" or "nah man, that doesn't fit my own opinion, so I'll just read between the lines"?

You will see various threads here where Christians come in, saying "but God wants X" and "no no, but He wants you to think Y" even when there are Bible passages directly contradicting their claim. How can such people be taken seriously?

I you said "hi there, welcome!" to someone, how would you feel if that person said "oh, he means go away!"

[objectivist]

Re: PRACTICE THE LOVE OF CHRIST

You're all very aware that God is a vengeful God, but more than anything else you should remember that he is compassionate to every one of his children. Are you familiar with 1 John 4:8? I think people on this forum often take it upon themselves to be as vengeful and as judgemental as the Lord himself. That's not anyone's place but God's. True Christians should act kindly, and a lot of the time the members of this forum do. But certain people are very frequently downright rude, judgemental and merciless in their attacks on other people and their characters. Sure, you know a lot about Christianity. It doesn't give you the right to be horrible to people who don't.

Is it a sin to want to help people go to Heaven? God begs to differ!

I think that's a noble pursuit. It's also completely discouraged on this forum by an elitist, anti non-Christian policy. How are you going to help unbelievers when you treat them all horribly if they come to your site looking for information?