[Levi Jones]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

I've never heard a liberal (or anyone) say something like that, but I get your point. There have been some very shocking and disterbing things said by liberal for being the sake of liberal.

I also think your right to put rape in your face so that people will be practical or at least causious. The problem I have with the pamplet isn't for women who might get raped, but due to women who have already been raped. The way I've heard people after being raped is that it's very tramitic for them, and it's difficult for them to get through. Most don't come foward with what happened, and are huanted by it for a long time, while those who do come foward only a few don't get badgered by parents, court procedings or others, because they say the rape victum isn't a victum at all. Passing out a pamplet saying it's your fault just is harsh to those already been raped, I think.

I think we are in clear agreement then. If you had read Brother Jeb's link, you would realize these are being handed out to scantily dressed women.

As 1 Timothy 2:9, points out:
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Your right. Sorry for the harshness of my tone. I do hope your church doesn't indorse the idea though.

Well, that's better. Of course we don't endorse the idea that rape is ever okay.

Well I hope I'm not comming off as perecuting anyone. I know most of you don't count me as saved or as a christian. But I know that I am and I count you all as the same. To me your my brothers and sisters in Jesus. And just as many here have come down hard on me, for what I later found out to be a tough love kind of way, I'm trying to help anyone who hears me of some wrongs you may not be aware of. I say what I say for you, not to be against you.

I'm sorry, that probabley makes no sense. Not much of what I've said has been recieved well, so I have to assume it's not worded well and is just not understood at all.

Bobby-Joe, and everyone else. Putting aside where I've disagreed with anyone here. I do hope for you the best, and I have put you in my prayers. Not in any bad way, (though I don't see how a prayer can ever be a bad thing), but in a prayer for you. To have God's love and blessings be on you, and to be with you and teach you. Such is what I hope God does for me, my friends, and my family. If it sounds like perscuation I am sorry. If it actually was/is perscutation, thewn I hope you do recieve treasures in heaven for it. May you be filled with God peace and Love.

Well golly, that's a nice sentiment, but don't think we aren't going to call you out when you're wrong.

As Hebrews 12:6-8 says

For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Do you understand now, my little bastard seeking the path to True Christianity™?

[Matchbox_On_Fire]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

Well when you hear Liebrals say stupid stuff like "I should be able to walk down a dark alley naked and not get raped", you sort of have to come up with something just as shocking.

How much would the number of rapes go down if women thought twice about what they were wearing and what situations they put themselves into?

I've never heard a liberal (or anyone) say something like that, but I get your point. There have been some very shocking and disterbing things said by liberal for being the sake of liberal.

I also think your right to put rape in your face so that people will be practical or at least causious. The problem I have with the pamplet isn't for women who might get raped, but due to women who have already been raped. The way I've heard people after being raped is that it's very tramitic for them, and it's difficult for them to get through. Most don't come foward with what happened, and are huanted by it for a long time, while those who do come foward only a few don't get badgered by parents, court procedings or others, because they say the rape victum isn't a victum at all. Passing out a pamplet saying it's your fault just is harsh to those already been raped, I think.

Matchbox, perhaps you're forgetting that, in spite of its inspired genius, the "Women and Girls pamphlet" was not produced by Landover Baptist Church.

Your right. Sorry for the harshness of my tone. I do hope your church doesn't indorse the idea though.

Friend,

We rejoice in your persecution of us. As we are taught

Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

PRAISE!

Now friend, won't you turn from hate and embrace love like we TRUE Christians™ do?

Well I hope I'm not comming off as perecuting anyone. I know most of you don't count me as saved or as a christian. But I know that I am and I count you all as the same. To me your my brothers and sisters in Jesus. And just as many here have come down hard on me, for what I later found out to be a tough love kind of way, I'm trying to help anyone who hears me of some wrongs you may not be aware of. I say what I say for you, not to be against you.

I'm sorry, that probabley makes no sense. Not much of what I've said has been recieved well, so I have to assume it's not worded well and is just not understood at all.

Bobby-Joe, and everyone else. Putting aside where I've disagreed with anyone here. I do hope for you the best, and I have put you in my prayers. Not in any bad way, (though I don't see how a prayer can ever be a bad thing), but in a prayer for you. To have God's love and blessings be on you, and to be with you and teach you. Such is what I hope God does for me, my friends, and my family. If it sounds like perscuation I am sorry. If it actually was/is perscutation, thewn I hope you do recieve treasures in heaven for it. May you be filled with God peace and Love.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

Last I checked Ezekiel, I am a Christian. Whether you like that or not, that is what I am. I've stayed here as long as I have, because it troubles me that a community of my brothers and sisters could be as nasty as you've shown yourselves. As a christian I'm saying what I say. If my opinions don't matter, because for whatever cause you'll not count be as loving and trusting God, then at least I keep my pie hole open hoping between one Christian to another, I can learn from you and if there's anything you can learn from me you can.

Friend,

We rejoice in your persecution of us. As we are taught

Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

PRAISE!

Now friend, won't you turn from hate and embrace love like we TRUE Christians(tm) do?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

So I think I get what most of you are saying about the pamplet. Tell young girls, (or older girls) to not dress and behave in ways that intice or tease men. Basically kind of like saying, "Be carefull, and don't do something stupid." Is that about right?

Well if that's the message, then please understand there are betterways of saying that. No matter what, rape is a cruel and horrible thing, and no one deserves it based on any reason. Saying "it's your fault you were raped," is so awful. There's no reason to say such things or thing in that way.

Matchbox, perhaps you're forgetting that, in spite of its inspired genius, the "Women and Girls pamphlet" was not produced by Landover Baptist Church.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

So I think I get what most of you are saying about the pamplet. Tell young girls, (or older girls) to not dress and behave in ways that intice or tease men. Basically kind of like saying, "Be carefull, and don't do something stupid." Is that about right?

Well if that's the message, then please understand there are betterways of saying that. No matter what, rape is a cruel and horrible thing, and no one deserves it based on any reason. Saying "it's your fault you were raped," is so awful. There's no reason to say such things or thing in that way.

Well when you hear Liebrals say stupid stuff like "I should be able to walk down a dark alley naked and not get raped", you sort of have to come up with something just as shocking.

How much would the number of rapes go down if women thought twice about what they were wearing and what situations they put themselves into?

[Matchbox_On_Fire]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

Last I checked Ezekiel, I am a Christian. Whether you like that or not, that is what I am. I've stayed here as long as I have, because it troubles me that a community of my brothers and sisters could be as nasty as you've shown yourselves. As a christian I'm saying what I say. If my opinions don't matter, because for whatever cause you'll not count be as loving and trusting God, then at least I keep my pie hole open hoping between one Christian to another, I can learn from you and if there's anything you can learn from me you can.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

So I think I get what most of you are saying about the pamplet. Tell young girls, (or older girls) to not dress and behave in ways that intice or tease men. Basically kind of like saying, "Be carefull, and don't do something stupid." Is that about right?

Well if that's the message, then please understand there are betterways of saying that. No matter what, rape is a cruel and horrible thing, and no one deserves it based on any reason. Saying "it's your fault you were raped," is so awful. There's no reason to say such things or thing in that way.

What makes you think that anyone here wants to hear your unsaved opinions or advice?

This is a Christian forum. We seek Christian answers. Go flap your pie hole somewhere else.

[Matchbox_On_Fire]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

So I think I get what most of you are saying about the pamplet. Tell young girls, (or older girls) to not dress and behave in ways that intice or tease men. Basically kind of like saying, "Be carefull, and don't do something stupid." Is that about right?

Well if that's the message, then please understand there are betterways of saying that. No matter what, rape is a cruel and horrible thing, and no one deserves it based on any reason. Saying "it's your fault you were raped," is so awful. There's no reason to say such things or thing in that way.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

If it's the fault of the girl, when she gets raped... Explain why women wearing Christian approved clothing are sometimes raped as well?

Let us correct your statement friend "why do women claiming to wear Christian approved clothing sometimes get raped".

The answer is easy. Those women aren't TRUE Christians(tm) and therefor deserve the abuse they got.

I hope this helps friend.

[Godfly]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

If it's the fault of the girl, when she gets raped... Explain why women wearing Christian approved clothing are sometimes raped as well?

Christian approved clothing is just a helpful tool to avoid rape, if the girl is a harlot she is still a harlot. You can put a pig in a dress and call it Aunt Suzie, but it's still just a pig.

[Jacob the Angry Liar]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

If it's the fault of the girl, when she gets raped... Explain why women wearing Christian approved clothing are sometimes raped as well?

Because they were still out of the kitchen and not under the guidance of their father or husband.

[Lesbith]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

If it's the fault of the girl, when she gets raped... Explain why women wearing Christian approved clothing are sometimes raped as well?

[Godfly]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

So, what about the small child or young girl who is raped in her own bed in the middle of the night? Or what about the 6 week old infant who was KILLED by her rapist and thrown away?

Where is the man's fault in this??? Where is the punishment for HIS sins? Is he not to blame AT ALL for his OWN DECISIONS?? Have each of you raped a woman because of the way she was dressed or did you listen to your CONSCIENCE and the WORD OF GOD and behave? Have you raped your own WIFE because she woke up in her pjs, or you got a glance of her in the shower?? How about family outings to the beach? The mother who wears a one piece bathing suit with her children, should she get raped too?

This is the MOST DISGUSTING THING I HAVE EVER READ. I am sorry to say that you peole are part of the CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY!

The Bible is very clear on this. Are you suggesting we don't follow the word of God when he has specifically directed us? We are part of the True Christian™ community, and we take what the Bible says seriously. If you think you can pick an choose which parts of the Bible you wish to follow then you are not really a Christian. You need to think long and hard about where you want to spend your afterlife.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

blah, blah, blah..
Where is the man's fault in this??? Where is the punishment for HIS sins? blah, blah, blah..

Of course he's punished! Didn't you read Brother Godfly's post?

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (King James Version)
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days

See? He's stuck with her FOREVER! Now that's a punishment that never ends.

This is the MOST DISGUSTING THING I HAVE EVER READ. I am sorry to say that you peole are part of the CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY!

You're just bitter because you can't get a man drunk enough to rape you.

[kathymama4]

Re: "It's your fault if I rape you" pamphlets for teen girls

So, what about the small child or young girl who is raped in her own bed in the middle of the night? Or what about the 6 week old infant who was KILLED by her rapist and thrown away?

Where is the man's fault in this??? Where is the punishment for HIS sins? Is he not to blame AT ALL for his OWN DECISIONS?? Have each of you raped a woman because of the way she was dressed or did you listen to your CONSCIENCE and the WORD OF GOD and behave? Have you raped your own WIFE because she woke up in her pjs, or you got a glance of her in the shower?? How about family outings to the beach? The mother who wears a one piece bathing suit with her children, should she get raped too?

This is the MOST DISGUSTING THING I HAVE EVER READ. I am sorry to say that you peole are part of the CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY!