[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

I am very blessed to not be like you < I am so Thankful for My Church,,and the things it has taught me. No it does not make them our slave. It is lending a helping hand, I am Taking this to my Church, I am sure they will confirm My fears, as to what you say and do ,, this Website is something we should censor,, I have NEVER NEVER meet anyone that is this cold hearted.. And I have meet some real jems,,, I wish you well I wish you Church well... And I will Pray for you that you will see how cold hearted you are,,,,, PEACE

Frosty,
I do hope you come back, apparently you are a woman with a sticking comma key who can read and that’s always interesting.

One of the reasons for rightly criticizing the wounded in limb and mind, is the thought that even were it to become practice to grant unfeasibly large sums of money and care to each one, it would not be a good thing.

Our troops are highly trained at great cost. The lessons of the training are hard learned and not to be forgotten. Anyone fighting God’s and America’s war needs to carry out that training. Fail to carry it out and the result is “wounded in limb and mind.”

So you see, by pandering to the lieberal, tree-huggers and handing out millions of dollars, the troops might think that it is OK to forget training and they will come back wounded as a result. We don’t want this.

Such misplaced compassion tacitly condones troops forgetting their training, disobeying orders and thus being wounded – this is the true tragedy.

No one wants wounded soldiers – are you surprised that we and President Bush, advocate a “light-touch” when it comes to support and compassion? This minimalism in care is for the good of the men, the good of the war, the good of America and The Glory of God. It encourages learning and obedience.

And back to the very first post, What do you think some soldier was doing shooting fishermen in the desert – clearly disobeying orders, ignoring training and as a result, he had only himself to blame – he had let down you, me, all of America and God. He was probably simply rightly ashamed of his neglecting his duty.

[Nobar King]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Hi, frosty, I'm not really interested in reading your post, but for fun let's count the commas: 17! WOW! Are you slipping into a coma?

[frosty]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Frosty,

We want to horner these people. Not humiliate them by turning them into your slaves. Anybody who accepts a hand out from another person is that other persons slaves. Any decent man would rather die, alone and in agony in a filthy gutter than be a slave. By turning a discrete blind eye to veterans problems I am showing them respect they earned as freemen.

I am very blessed to not be like you < I am so Thankful for My Church,,and the things it has taught me. No it does not make them our slave. It is lending a helping hand, I am Taking this to my Church, I am sure they will confirm My fears, as to what you say and do ,, this Website is something we should censor,, I have NEVER NEVER meet anyone that is this cold hearted.. And I have meet some real jems,,, I wish you well I wish you Church well... And I will Pray for you that you will see how cold hearted you are,,,,, PEACE

[frosty]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

My GOD, Good Pastors, is this one still blathering on about veterans?

How sick. Maybe he's been watching Michael Bore's Sicko - Guaranteed™ to make any Decent American sick

Excuse me, I am a woman.....

[SUV]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

My GOD, Good Pastors, is this one still blathering on about veterans?

How sick. Maybe he's been watching Michael Bore's Sicko - Guaranteed™ to make any Decent American sick

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

helping someone out,, a stranger,, after all I do belive that is What our Jesus would do

Oh really? You need to stop imagining what you think Jesus would do, and start reading your Bible to learn for sure.


Mark 14:3-9
3 And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head. 4 And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made?
5 For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her.
6 And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me.
7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.
8 She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.
9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

A woman anointed Jesus with some very expensive ointment. The disciples were aghast. They thought the ointment should have been sold, and the money used to help the poor. Jesus knew He would be leaving soon, so it was more important to give people the opportunity to show Him respect. If they want to make themselves feel good by throwing money at poor people, then there will always be poor people, so there's no urgency.

Praising Jesus and sharing the Gospel are more important than giving money to the poor. Besides, when you give money to the poor, you aren't helping them -- you are hurting them by enabling them to remain poor.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Ok I am going to do some study on what you just said,,, First I am going to say, if you are so rich , then some of your money should be going for good causes,, Like our VETERANS,, our Hungry living in the street,, trust me some of those people, Families really didnt need or want to be there,It happenes to good God Fearing people and for those of us that have it a little better, I think and so does a lot of other people,you should lend a helping hand,, give some of it to a soup kitchen,, give some to goodwill,, Stand on the street give out a hundred to a couple that passes you by,, I think you heart would be so full of joy,, helping someone out,, a stranger,, after all I do belive that is What our Jesus would do

Frosty,

We want to horner these people. Not humiliate them by turning them into your slaves. Anybody who accepts a hand out from another person is that other persons slaves. Any decent man would rather die, alone and in agony in a filthy gutter than be a slave. By turning a discrete blind eye to veterans problems I am showing them respect they earned as freemen.

[frosty]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Frosty, the men and women who fought and are still fighting for America's Christian right to Iraq's oilfields are brave beyond measure. They have had immense effect on terrorism: without their efforts Halliburton would not have felt safe enough to move its corporate headquarters to Dubai, for instance.

Thank God our brave soldiers are willing to fight for Christian corporations like Halliburton.

But when they come back after fighting America's oil war they should realize that they are back in God's country, where Christian millionaires and not army veterans are the rulers. Do you find scripture saying that Moses gave the wounded among his men extra Midianite child-virgins to deflower? Or that David favored amputees with special bonus packages and free prosthetics? Or that after the terrible battle at Gibeah the soldiers of the Ten Tribes received special counseling for hacking their Benjaminite brothers to pieces on the blood-soaked plains?

Not a bit of it. The Biblical soldiers' way is: you fight, you suffer, you shut up about it.

That is what George Bush has tried to do. He tried his best to ignore the flag-draped coffins of the fallen. He tried his best to ignore the roach-infested, moldy-walled hospitals where the wounded were sent. It is the Christian way: soldiers fight, soldiers suffer, but the rulers -- King David, Saul, Exxon-Mobil, and Dick Cheney -- get all the benefits.

Don't be fooled, Frosty. In the eyes of the American government, what you are advocating reeks of socialism and namby-pamby liberalism.

~~ OEJ

Ok I am going to do some study on what you just said,,, First I am going to say, if you are so rich , then some of your money should be going for good causes,, Like our VETERANS,, our Hungry living in the street,, trust me some of those people, Families really didnt need or want to be there,It happenes to good God Fearing people and for those of us that have it a little better, I think and so does a lot of other people,you should lend a helping hand,, give some of it to a soup kitchen,, give some to goodwill,, Stand on the street give out a hundred to a couple that passes you by,, I think you heart would be so full of joy,, helping someone out,, a stranger,, after all I do belive that is What our Jesus would do

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

Frosty, the men and women who fought and are still fighting for America's Christian right to Iraq's oilfields are brave beyond measure. They have had immense effect on terrorism: without their efforts Halliburton would not have felt safe enough to move its corporate headquarters to Dubai, for instance.

Thank God our brave soldiers are willing to fight for Christian corporations like Halliburton.

But when they come back after fighting America's oil war they should realize that they are back in God's country, where Christian millionaires and not army veterans are the rulers. Do you find scripture saying that Moses gave the wounded among his men extra Midianite child-virgins to deflower? Or that David favored amputees with special bonus packages and free prosthetics? Or that after the terrible battle at Gibeah the soldiers of the Ten Tribes received special counseling for hacking their Benjaminite brothers to pieces on the blood-soaked plains?

Not a bit of it. The Biblical soldiers' way is: you fight, you suffer, you shut up about it.

That is what George Bush has tried to do. He tried his best to ignore the flag-draped coffins of the fallen. He tried his best to ignore the roach-infested, moldy-walled hospitals where the wounded were sent. It is the Christian way: soldiers fight, soldiers suffer, but the rulers -- King David, Saul, Exxon-Mobil, and Dick Cheney -- get all the benefits.

Don't be fooled, Frosty. In the eyes of the American government, what you are advocating reeks of socialism and namby-pamby liberalism.

~~ OEJ

[SUV]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

And then how about these disordered, disgruntled sissies running around shooting up our schools and post offices?

Maybe they should all be quarantined just as soon as they come back from overseas!

[Deaner]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

They gave their all for us, let us give some of it back,, try to heal some of the wounds, Be the United States we should be

They should have disclosed they were sissies when they signed up. Instead they lied about it so they could get a free trip to the desert with meals included and a chance to shoot some really cool weapons.

Then when the shit hit the fan; they ran back to the States crying for sedatives and food stamps claiming the mudslums had hurt their feelings. That's a bunch of crap.

[frosty]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

I went to fight for Jesus in the 90s over in the Godless wastes of the Middle East and you don't see me complaining. Sometimes I dream of Hell and Arabic music but I figure that is Gods way of reminding me to tithe properly and be a True Christian™ so I don't have to listen to it for eternity. I felt it was my Christian duty to kill as many of the worlds enemies as possible(13 thank you very much). I never backed down from a filthy Haji or his family should they get in the way because I knew Christ was watching over me. Besides, the kids over there only end up committing explosive suicide anyways. I figure maybe we saved some of them the trip and more than a few lives in the future. No harm no foul.
When my duty was done I came back to the real world and continued the fight only this time I was carrying a Bible and a tractor gearshift instead of a 203 and a battle pack. I never complained or whined and I have never set foot in a VA building once my discharge exam was complete no matter how many times they tried.
Sure they said I needed some "therapy" or whatever Liberals and gays call it but I knew all I needed was Jesus and good hard work. Nothing that sweat and dirt under your nails couldn't fix.
Thats why Jesus blessed me with membership here at Landover thereby guaranteeing my Salvation. Praise Jesus!


I miss that 203 sometimes. Sure would make it a lot easier to minister to the dumb masses.

You really scare me,,

[frosty]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

What are you talking about? George W. bush takes good care of our troops, under the watchful loving gaze of Jesus Christ, who hand-picked him to lead us in the War on Terror. They are fed well, clothed well, equipped well, and paid well. They get the best of everything, and yet a small monority of whiners persist in coming home from eradication islamofascists and crying over imaginary emotions that are best left alone. The clintons turned the military into a breeding ground for queers, and you support that?

So why do you hate America?

You dont know that their emotions, are IMAGINARY,, We dont know what happened over there, It is not the same for everyone, so If they come back and need some help ,, They gave their all for us, let us give some of it back,, try to heal some of the wounds, Be the United States we should be

[Marshall]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

I went to fight for Jesus in the 90s over in the Godless wastes of the Middle East and you don't see me complaining. Sometimes I dream of Hell and Arabic music but I figure that is Gods way of reminding me to tithe properly and be a True Christian(TM) so I don't have to listen to it for eternity. I felt it was my Christian duty to kill as many of the worlds enemies as possible(13 thank you very much). I never backed down from a filthy Haji or his family should they get in the way because I knew Christ was watching over me. Besides, the kids over there only end up committing explosive suicide anyways. I figure maybe we saved some of them the trip and more than a few lives in the future. No harm no foul.
When my duty was done I came back to the real world and continued the fight only this time I was carrying a Bible and a tractor gearshift instead of a 203 and a battle pack. I never complained or whined and I have never set foot in a VA building once my discharge exam was complete no matter how many times they tried.
Sure they said I needed some "therapy" or whatever Liberals and gays call it but I knew all I needed was Jesus and good hard work. Nothing that sweat and dirt under your nails couldn't fix.
Thats why Jesus blessed me with membership here at Landover thereby guaranteeing my Salvation. Praise Jesus!


I miss that 203 sometimes. Sure would make it a lot easier to minister to the dumb masses.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why are veterans such a bunch of no-good drunks?

I cant stand what I am hearing ,, how could you God fearing people be so cruel and heartless,,,I am glad that you will not be the one to decide how our service men and women will be treated, I will pray for you and your coldness to our service men and women

What are you talking about? George W. bush takes good care of our troops, under the watchful loving gaze of Jesus Christ, who hand-picked him to lead us in the War on Terror. They are fed well, clothed well, equipped well, and paid well. They get the best of everything, and yet a small monority of whiners persist in coming home from eradication islamofascists and crying over imaginary emotions that are best left alone. The clintons turned the military into a breeding ground for queers, and you support that?

So why do you hate America?