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  • Basilissa
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    Now you're saying that I have my own faith? Im getting OFF this website, i'm not saying im "the one" I am a Christian and I don't need you to question me. I know the Bible is the word of God, I never said It wasn't. And what you said earlier was not a verse hun, you said that im pretty much delusional. And thats ok, I don't need you to tell me im not close enough to God.
    Hi sweetie! I'm afraid you are, in fact, delusional. You claim that someone claiming to be God speaks to you. Based on the opinions you expressed here, that someone is telling you things which are pretty much opposite from what God says in the Bible.

    That leads to two possible conclusions:

    1.God is deceiving you on purpose, to send you to Hell:

    Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
    Ezekiel 20:25-26
    25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;
    26 And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the Lord.

    2. The supernatural being that is talking to you is not God but the devil.

    Either way, your only way to Salvation is to stop listening to that voice and start reading the Bible instead!

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  • Isabella White
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    It actually says a lot in the Bible to not judge.
    Dear Miss Aviela: As our much-beloved, and highly-esteemed, Brother White has pointed out, ever so clearly (and so graciously), you need to examine the Holy Scriptural references (very carefully) that he has so kindly provided for your benefit from the glorious .

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    World* Yeah I see where you're coming from, but it's not our job to do God's work I guess.
    And, what on Earth, may I ask, has given you the idea that "it's not our job to do 's work"? Kindly examine this relevant and very important notice, given so plainly, by the blessed :

    Mark 16:15 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."

    Now, to break this down for you, the Gospel is the work of the -- and we are to tell ALL people, in ALL parts of the world, about the message of salvation, as found through shed . And, "every creature", includes you, Dear.

    I can sense that you are somewhat annoyed with the servants of the Almighty for telling you the necessities that you must acknowledge in order to avoid the eternal, raging fires of . But, you should also know that we do care very much about your fate. All we are doing is letting you know what is ahead of you, as shown within the .

    Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

    It is my prayer that you will give this the very serious consideration that it deserves -- for your sake. Feel free to ask questions, here at . The servants of are only too happy to be of assistance and to see you rid yourself of the price that you will pay in for your wretched sins.

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  • Brother Gonzalez
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    Also WE ARE NOT TO JUDGE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE TRANSGENDER OR GAY, GOD IS TO DECIDE. Yes, it's not right but we don't need to hurt others just because we believe so, God is to do that.
    No, God told us to do it:


    Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.





    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    And NO-ONE is perfect, everyone has sinned one way or another, so don't call someone out for it. I am SURE you have committed a sin, and everyone else on here. Just because you commit a sin still means you can go to heaven, you just have to believe that God died on the cross for your sins and live for him.

    But God commands us to be perfect:


    Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


    You clearly have not read the Bible and you are going to Hell. Send my regards to Hitler and Rock Hudson.

    .

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  • aviela
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Now you're saying that I have my own faith? Im getting OFF this website, i'm not saying im "the one" I am a Christian and I don't need you to question me. I know the Bible is the word of God, I never said It wasn't. And what you said earlier was not a verse hun, you said that im pretty much delusional. And thats ok, I don't need you to tell me im not close enough to God.

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    You can get proof when you know you're close enough with God. Its not my mind, I think you are in the wrong direction. I don't need to put you're word above God's. Its ok that you don't believe me, the funny thing is I don't really remember asking(.)
    Dear person,

    You just gave us a bucketload of fallacies, that is, bad argumentation. 1) Appeal to your personal authority. 2) The no true Scotsman fallacy of indicating that you (in contrast to others) are the person who is close enough to God and thus knows best and others are just not on your level, 3) The sentence "I don't need to put you're word above God's" does not make sense. Furthermore, we've only given you Bible passages, not our own words. 4) If you're here to preach what you guess and not engage in discussion that includes actual arguments, you are starting to make the ad nauseam fallacy by simple repeating over and over again that you know what you know because you know which is 5) begging the question and a circular argument.
    1. Do you think that the Bible is the Word of God?
    2. Do you think that your own faith has something to do with Christianity?
    3. If you do, how do you test that?
    2 Peter 3:5
    For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:


    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • aviela
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    You can get proof when you know you're close enough with God. Its not my mind, I think you are in the wrong direction. I don't need to put you're word above God's. Its ok that you don't believe me, the funny thing is I don't really remember asking(.)

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    God gives me visions and talks to me.
    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    Lmao where did I say that I am better than God? I know i'm close with God and you don't tell me im not because I am. Im living for God and thats all that matters. How dare you question my faith. You all are WACK
    How do you know it is God? God has given you an actual book, the Bible. Do you trust what is in your mind more than that book? How do you know that you are not mistaken?

    Isaiah 29:24
    They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

    If you wish that we should take your word about talking directly with God as reliable, give us some evidence! Your claim is not evidence. Making simple claims about Christianity without giving actual evidence means that you place yourself above God's tested word, the Bible. That's what it means to think that one is better than God. Answer the questions and perhaps you'll give us reason to take your word as something that overrides the Bible. The burden of proof is on you. A simple "I think so" won't do. Nor does an appeal to human untested authority, e.g., your relatives.


    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • aviela
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Lmao where did I say that I am better than God? I know i'm close with God and you don't tell me im not because I am. Im living for God and thats all that matters. How dare you question my faith. You all are WACK

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    No, I talk to God with my dad. My dad rolled his car 8 times and got smashed underneath it, died and came back to life and he saw God. Ever since he was little God has showed him. I believe him and I know he is right, God gives me visions and talks to me.
    1. How do you tell the difference between visions produced by your mind and God?
    2. How do you justify trusting fallible men more than the actual Word of God?
    3. Can you be wrong? How would you test that?
    4. Can your father be wrong? How could you test that?
    5. Do you think that we should trust you more than the Bible? If we should, what makes you a better authority on God?
    1 John 4:1
    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    In summary: what methods do you use to test what is reliable and what is not?


    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • aviela
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    No, I talk to God with my dad. My dad rolled his car 8 times and got smashed underneath it, died and came back to life and he saw God. Ever since he was little God has showed him. I believe him and I know he is right, God gives me visions and talks to me.

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    I have not read the Bible, my dad is the one who teaches me about God.
    I think he's just passing on his own misunderstanding.

    I don't blame him very much for it. There are a lot of people who have been lying about what the Bible says and means for a verrrry long time (looking at you especially, Catholics ).

    Why haven't you read the Bible yourself? It's not that long a book (shorter than the Harry Potter series). 66 books in the KJV, read two a day, should take about an hour average (some books are really short), and in a little more than a month, you'll know a lot more than almost all Christians about what the Bible really says.

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    I have not read the Bible, my dad is the one who teaches me about God.
    Have you ever considered that it would be a good idea to study the actual source of the Christian Faith® instead of just relying on second-hand information? People are fallible, they make mistakes, misunderstandings, errors even when sincere!

    John 5:39
    Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

    2 Timothy 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    You have my sympathies. Such good luck that you were led unto our Forum! Until now it has not been your fault that you have not been exposed to the actual and only source of Christianity, the Bible! From now on, however, it will be your decision to either actually see what the Bible contains or take the risk of being given just a filtered and possible skewed view of our religion. Try reading the actual text. You'll be amazed.


    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer

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  • aviela
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    I have not read the Bible, my dad is the one who teaches me about God.

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  • Elmer G. White
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    Originally posted by aviela View Post
    World* Yeah I see where you're coming from, but it's not our job to do God's work I guess.
    Dear sinner,

    Your guess is wrong. Jesus clearly told us to do the things that He did!

    John 14:12
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

    He left us with a task to do God's work. Now:
    • Do you always guess and just follow your guesses?
    • What is your Faith based upon?
    • Have you read the whole Bible? How many times?
    • Do you understand the differences between guesses, opinions and knowledge?
    Yours in Christ,

    Elmer


    PS. What's the asterisk and the world "world" all about?

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  • aviela
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    Re: Melanie Martinez ( symbolic music = Satanic music )

    World* Yeah I see where you're coming from, but it's not our job to do God's work I guess.

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