[Mary Etheldreda]

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Mary,

I am honestly trying to follow your logic and the sense of these verses here in Matthew.

I don't see gay men or raped women anywhere in this passage.

They make up the souls populating Hell (Matthew 13:40-42; 13:49-50).

But I see your idea of "legal execution" is a directly entry into the punishment of hell with no chance of mercy?

Jesus offers a chance of mercy to those who believe He temporarily sacrificed Himself (1 Corinthians 15:4) unto Himself (1 Timothy 2:6) to appease His Divine and Infinite Wrath (Romans 3:25) that only He could satisfy (Romans 6:23) because Man is made sinful and utterly unpalatable to Him (Revelation 21:27) unless he is Born Again (John 3:3) and becomes a New Creature (2 Corinthians 5:17), essentially a walking, talking, fleshbag existing to do His bidding (1 Corinthians 6:19). How is that so confusing? Once the timer is up, once the old ticker stops dear, the opportunity is over.

What is your view of "an eternity of pain and torment" and what part does "legal execution" play into that?

My view of "an eternity of pain and torment" is that it is one to be avoided at all costs. All costs. There is nothing, no thing, no experience, no relationship, no "being true to yourself" baloney that is worth an eternity of pain and torment. Remember when Christ said to take up your cross and follow Him (Luke 9:23)? Well, that must have been confusing of course to His disciples at the time who didn't know He was going to be hung on a cross, but it's a message to the rest of us who know how His story ends. We are to sacrifice our own needs and desires and spend a life as a slave to Christ and in return, He may have chosen us from the very beginning of time to spend eternity with Him (Ephesians 1:4).

Legal execution is akin to the surgery that cuts out cancer. When sinners persuade others to follow them and reject the Spirit of God, we all suffer. In our great United States, we are limited in our ability to execute sinners (1 Peter 2:13-17), being forced to find a secular reason or appeal to secular morality to stir the feelings of the jurors in a jury. But Jesus is on our side! Already President Trump has made room for a Religious Task Force that promises to incorporate Biblical Truths into our legal system, and it won't be long before Biblically sanctioned executions will start cleaning up our streets!


Glory!

[Basilissa]

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God does all that stuff. Not Jesus. Jesus is only going to kill the antichrist and the false prophet by throwing them in the lake of fire after the Battle of Armageddon happens

Jesus is God. They are a three-in-one combo with the Holy Ghost. If they were three different deities Christianity would not have the right to call itself a "monotheistic" religion, it would be yet another polytheistic one.

God does not torture people in hell. Hell tortures people

And who do you think created Hell? It's like saying, that Inquisition did not torture people, it was just the machines they used that tortured people.

Mary,

You are saying God is a sadist?

She did not say that. You, however, are free to draw your own conclusions based on 1) the contents of the Holy Bible and 2) the history of the world.

I am thinking that you have God confused with the devil. The thief steals, kills and destroys. Jesus went about doing good and he came to destroy the works of the devil.

And who, do you think, created the devil, and for what purpose?

Here is the answer for ya:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

Do I agree that God causes things to happen on earth? Yes but he doesn't inderectly torture people

Of course He does. He gives cancer to little children. If that's not torture then I don't know what is.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Unless you are trying to beat the current number of posts made by one person, you might try combining all of your posts into one easy-to-read post.

Good advice, dear!

Plus, paragraphs are nice.

As are quotes. As it stands, this poor sap looks like it's talking to itself in a crowded room, hoping someone somewhere will respond to something it said.

[Vengeance Puriel]

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They do not alter posts, remove texts they don't agree with. They not will tamper with your profile and tag you with a humiliating header if you are not careful.


Hang in there. I am still trying to understand this Forum.

I been here a year Sir no one changes anything it's all God's will.

[biatch77]

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They do not alter posts, remove texts they don't agree with. They not will tamper with your profile and tag you with a humiliating header if you are not careful.


Hang in there. I am still trying to understand this Forum.

I'm saddened I posted a Bible verse about seeking the truth and the was removed and considered ego porn

[Dana723]

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Unless you are trying to beat the current number of posts made by one person, you might try combining all of your posts into one easy-to-read post.



Plus, paragraphs are nice.

[OneFailure]

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No he is not

[OneFailure]

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Riiiight 😑

[OneFailure]

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I've read that before. And?

[OneFailure]

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Neither

[OneFailure]

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Do I agree that God causes things to happen on earth? Yes but he doesn't inderectly torture people

[OneFailure]

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Um okay?

[Vengeance Puriel]

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I still don't believe they are literally the same person

Jesus is God in the flesh, He came to die for sins of His followers and those that would follow Him later, but also to remind you that He is angry with the sinners and He will smite them.

[biatch77]

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Mary,


I am honestly trying to follow your logic and the sense of these verses here in Matthew.



I don't see gay men or raped women anywhere in this passage.


But I see your idea of "legal execution" is a directly entry into the punishment of hell with no chance of mercy?


What is your view of "an eternity of pain and torment" and what part does "legal execution" play into that?


Or there other references because I don't quite see that here---->

Furthermore, He endorses the legal execution of anyone who divorces and remarries (Matthew 5:31-32; 19:3-10), let’s be honest (Matthew 5:17-20), even gay men and raped women (and countless others), knowing each one of these souls would then go on to face an eternity of pain and torment (Matthew 13:40-42; 13:49-50).

[Vengeance Puriel]

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Mary,


You are saying God is a sadist?


You say: "God tortures people here on earth."


I am thinking that you have God confused with the devil. The thief steals, kills and destroys. Jesus went about doing good and he came to destroy the works of the devil.

she is saying that he's not as nice as other churches want you to believe, If you actually read the Bible he says exactly what the good people of Landover have been trying to teach you.