[biatch77]

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Mary,


You are saying God is a sadist?


You say: "God tortures people here on earth."


I am thinking that you have God confused with the devil. The thief steals, kills and destroys. Jesus went about doing good and he came to destroy the works of the devil.

God tortures people here on earth. Or do you think tsunamis, cancer, and being enslaved to fight in wars before puberty is just an example of having a "bad day"?

And why shouldn't He? It is, after all, His right. Right? And it is His Glory. Right?

When a child is conscripted into the front lines of battle, the Glory goes to Christ Jesus whose finger is upon the whole thing. Don't you agree? I mean, who do you think you are invoking when you call yourself OneForChrist?

[Pim Pendergast]

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God does not torture people in hell. Hell tortures people

That idea is not rooted in Scripture. God plays an active role in torturing people in hell.

Ps 11:6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.

Heb 10:26-27, 30-31
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries . . .
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

[Vengeance Puriel]

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Jesus never tortured people

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peaceon earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

[Brother Gonzalez]

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I still don't believe they are literally the same person

So, are you Mormon or Jehovah's witness?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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God does not torture people in hell. Hell tortures people

God tortures people here on earth. Or do you think tsunamis, cancer, and being enslaved to fight in wars before puberty is just an example of having a "bad day"?

And why shouldn't He? It is, after all, His right. Right? And it is His Glory. Right?

When a child is conscripted into the front lines of battle, the Glory goes to Christ Jesus whose finger is upon the whole thing. Don't you agree? I mean, who do you think you are invoking when you call yourself OneForChrist?

[Didymus Much]

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God does not torture people in hell. Hell tortures people

Matthew 10:29 "Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father."

ETA: you get a better deal with Luke (someone wasn't listening closely)

Luke 12:6 "Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?"

[OneFailure]

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God does not torture people in hell. Hell tortures people

[OneFailure]

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I still don't believe they are literally the same person

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I'm saying that he hasn't tortured people.

The Wrath of God will be visited upon the sinner in this life and in the next (Proverbs 16:9; Amos 3:6; Romans 9:15). And if you don't think watching a child grow with an incurable, chronically painful condition, physical, mental, or emotional, isn't torturous, you have a heart of stone.

I'm not a Mormon and I'm not a Jehovah's Witness

So from where do you get the idea that what God does, Jesus is uninvolved? Everything, and I mean everything, from the Great Flood to accepting Jesphothat's daughter as a sacrifice to snuffing out King David's infant son for the sins of King David was done by Christ Jesus qua God the Father, YHWH, the LORD.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
John 1:1-5

[Didymus Much]

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God does all that stuff. Not Jesus...

John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

[OneFailure]

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I'm not a Mormon and I'm not a Jehovah's Witness

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I'm not denying the essence of him.

I didn't say you were. I asked if you were a Mormon or Jehovah's Witless because you argue Jesus isn't God. Which Bible are you reading?

[OneFailure]

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Neither I'm just a Christian. I honestly thought people here would like Sam Childers as he's a Christian who has saved hundreds of children but I guess I must be wrong.

[OneFailure]

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I'm not denying the essence of him. I'm saying that he hasn't tortured people. Total difference. In fact I'm defending him right now, Read your bible okay. The events in Revelation haven't happened yet. Jesus is going to kill the antichrists armies and also throw the antichrist and false prophet into he lake of fire to be tortured and killed and that's it.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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God does all that stuff. Not Jesus.

So are you Mormon or Jehovah's Witless?