[John Bois Ward]

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"If you were truly baptised, you would sin no more."

Yeah right. I do not know ANYONE - not a single person - that doesn't sin. Baptism doesn't make you perfect.

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

And i do not lie. God loves everyone, for the bible tells me so.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
-John 3:16

You are lying if you continue to deny what is in front of you. You posted it yourself that God will only provide everlasting life to "whosoever believeth in him." What will happen to those who do not believe in him? Does God love all those who are condemned to Hell for eternity?

[Meek and Humble]

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Hebreeen 6: 4Als iemand God de rug heeft toegekeerd, kan hij niet weer van voren af aan beginnen. Hij heeft het goede nieuws gehoord en iets van het hemelse leven geproefd; hij heeft aan de Heilige Geest deel gekregen;
5hij weet dat het goed is wat God heeft gezegd; hij heeft ervaren wat voor krachten er in de komende wereld werken.
6Door God de rug toe te keren, kruisigt zo iemand de Zoon van God eigenlijk opnieuw en maakt Hem bespottelijk.



1 Johannes 3: 6Als wij één met Hem blijven, zullen wij ook niet zondigen. Maar de mensen die blijven zondigen, moeten goed beseffen dat zij zondigen omdat zij Christus nooit echt hebben gekend.



1 Johannes 3: 9Wie nieuw leven van God ontvangen heeft, kan niet langer zondigen omdat het leven van God in hem is. Hij kan niet doorgaan met zondigen, omdat God zijn Vader is.



1 Johannes 5: 18Wij weten dat ieder die een kind van God is, niet zondigt; want de Zoon van God beschermt hem en de duivel kan hem niets doen.



3 Johannes 1: 11Volg dit slechte voorbeeld niet na, mijn vriend, maar het goede. Wie goed doet, is een kind van God; maar wie kwaad doet, kent God niet.

[MidwestCatLady]

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I think something reallly bad happend to Judas - probably not the best example for Salvation.

Acts 1:25That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which JUDAS by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.


Acts 5:37After this man rose up JUDAS of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, [even] as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.

[Toby Hinloopen]

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You are mocking God when you lie about God. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Proof that you are here to mock us. If you were truly baptised, you would sin no more. So, are you an atheist or an ungodly goth here to attack our beliefs?

"If you were truly baptised, you would sin no more."

Yeah right. I do not know ANYONE - not a single person - that doesn't sin. Baptism doesn't make you perfect.

And i do not lie. God loves everyone, for the bible tells me so.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
-John 3:16

(after reading)
hmm... it says "For God so loved THE WORLD"... so you got me.

But still, where in bible is written that i wouldn't sin anymore after baptism?
Even Judas sinned.
"Then Judas, which betrayed him, answered and said, Master, is it I? He said unto him, Thou hast said."
-Matthew 26:25

(I really do not understand the english king james version here)

Assuming Judas was baptised. (actually... i don't know if he was baptised...)

And i am not here to mock you or "your belief".

[John Bois Ward]

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It kind of hurts me how you respond to others. This is imho not how it should be done as a Chrisitian. God loves us all and you should love others too. If you think i'm mocking God, you shouldn't throw me away but help me/pray for me that i will repend my sin.

You are mocking God when you lie about God. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Btw, I came here to get some extra knowledge/motivation to stop any sin i have. We all have to do that sometimes. I'm baptised 1 year ago and christian for 2 years. A lot of sins have gone but some are still going. I want to stop those too.

Proof that you are here to mock us. If you were truly baptised, you would sin no more. So, are you an atheist or an ungodly goth here to attack our beliefs?

[John Bois Ward]

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Hi =)
God giving up, and getting terribly pissed, and sending a flood to kill thousands does not fit the way I picture him.
I picture God, never getting mad, becouse getting mad is one of the seven deadly sins, and always trying to save you from a future in hell no matter what you do, becouse he rather has everybody in heaven, and that represents one of the seven virtues.

No one really cares what you think God would or wouldn't do. Try reading The Bible and learn what God does and what He expects from us. Leave your hippie "God is Love" beliefs at the love-in.

"Then accept Christ as your savior and quit mouthing off like you know what God thinks."
I never said I know what god thinks, and I will never know unless I make contact with him.

Once again, try reading the Bible.

And you also don't know what God thinks.

But we know what he wants from us.

There is no proof of what he thinks.
This is a believe, we believe what he thinks, we don't know it.
Without the believe, there wouldn't be christians, muslims etc.

Take your atheist beliefs somewhere else. Obviously, you are here to mock us.

[Meek and Humble]

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Yes, poor Toby, leave him alone. I'd feel terrible if I had been born in the Godless Netherlands.

[Toby Hinloopen]

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Oh my. Another one from Holland? Have we opened our borders yet again?

It's not my bad i've been born in Holland.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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Hi, Pim: God will give up on you the minute you give up on him. What are you thinking. It is not the other way around. God can get terribly pissed off and send a flood to kill thousands. I am sure there were a few drowning souls that regreted their wrongs and believed in God but that does not make them True Christians. It did not save them. You think this is a joke? I wish it were but the King James' quotes are considered the most accurate word of God available on Planet Earth. No where (to my ignorant knowledge) is there this happy-go-lucky forgive and forget God. Indeed, unless you read it, you are not "saved", by it I mean the KJ version. Then accept Christ as your savior and quit mouthing off like you know what God thinks. It's hard I know because I am a 40-year veteran atheist ready for Christ in my life as a True Christian.

Now, how do I get to be a forum member instead of just unsaved trash? My mom is probably not going to help out.

I just had to answer your post Brother, as I am so thrilled that you have decided to turn your life over to Jesus! Praise!

As far as becoming a member, you just need to keep posting the word of God, get really familiar with the KJV 1611 (posting scripture sure doesn't hurt!).

And of course constant prayer to Jesus helps too!

Good luck friend!

[Bethany Covington]

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Hi there

I'm Toby Hinloopen from The Netherlands.






i'm bored...

Oh my. Another one from Holland? Have we opened our borders yet again?

[PimArts]

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Heathen, I am the kind of person that finds it hard to believe in something without having some kind of evidence, so in this case, I just keep focussing my mind on God, and not on Noah.

I know the story, maybe it is true, maybe not.

I'm off to bed now, I'll see you al later.

[Meek and Humble]

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Toby: Don't worry about those labels, that's everyone's default setting when they join here. Make a few more posts and that should go away as long as you speak in the ways of Christ.

Pim: Are you saying you don't believe the story of Noah's Ark?

MidwestAgnostic: I'm glad to see you are finally finding the light of Christ. Make a few more good posts like that and you just might become a full member yet.

[PimArts]

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For example, 'Sticks and stone may break my bones but WORDS will never hurt (affect) me.'

In that case, Toby is not hurt, I'm pretty sure about that .

Not everything is 'good. To get the 'good' you have to take the bad. The world is not here to mommy you.

I know, the world is to be lived, unfortunatly there are some people corrupting it, some on purpose, some of them without.

No, but his words (as I cannot see his actions) have 'holes' in them. Inconsistencies if you will. I am merely observing, as I have done time and time again.

I understand it is hard to identify someone especially on the net.

If my learned opinion is is not valued, then perhaps you need to be placatedseek the answers you want to hear (not necessarily the truth) elsewhere.

I gues God is the only one who knows the truth 100% when it comes to knowing someone.
But if you tell me that I am a nice guy, then it isn't the truth, I can be nice, that is truth, at least, that is what I believe.

[James Hutchins]

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Affect in what manners?

For example, 'Sticks and stone may break my bones but WORDS will never hurt (affect) me.'

I don't think Toby cares about what you think of him (unless it is good), it is just a point to discuss about.

Not everything is 'good. To get the 'good' you have to take the bad. The world is not here to mommy you.

He does not get worse by convincing you that he is a Christian, and if you are convinced then you won't get worse about that too.

No, but his words (as I cannot see his actions) have 'holes' in them. Inconsistencies if you will. I am merely observing, as I have done time and time again. If my learned opinion is is not valued, then perhaps you need to be placatedseek the answers you want to hear (not necessarily the truth) elsewhere.

[Toby Hinloopen]

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Main Entry: abom·i·na·ble Pronunciation: \ə-ˈbäm-nə-bəl, -ˈbä-mə-\ Function: adjective Date: 14th century 1 : worthy of or causing disgust or hatred : detestable <the abominable treatment of the poor> 2 : quite disagreeable or unpleasant <abominable weather>
— abom·i·na·bly \-blē\ adverb

A good Christiam does not let the words of a human affect them. Only Gods word matters.

I am beginning to wonder of you are serious.

(where is the edit button?)

If you doupt if i am a "true christian", i cannot convince you otherwise and it doesn't really matter. God is the only one who is able to say who is serious and who isn't. Who do you think you are to judge me (again) about being a "true christian" or not.